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Post by Karen on Nov 7, 2006 11:45:04 GMT -5
Greg made an interesting observation to me this morning. If Sylar were to steal the abilities of the guy we met last night, and then steal Claire's regenerative power, he could go nuclear in the middle of New York City and know he'd live to tell the tale. Hee! He could - unless someone gathered up all his pieces and buried them in separate boxes all around the world.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Nov 7, 2006 11:47:19 GMT -5
Hmmm...giving Nathan the benefit of the doubt here....I wonder what he saw in the painting that changed his mind. I'm not sure he actually saw it. It is a good question, though...why he lied. I didn't think Nathan had seen the painting, either. Maybe he lied to Peter because he wants to see the painting before Peter does, to see why it's so important, or because he thinks it might be useful to have it in case he needs leverage to use against his brother. Nathan is, after all, a sleazy politician, and accustomed to manipulating others.
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Post by Karen on Nov 7, 2006 11:47:43 GMT -5
Hmmm...giving Nathan the benefit of the doubt here....I wonder what he saw in the painting that changed his mind. I'm not sure he actually saw it. It is a good question, though...why he lied. It's the first or second frame of the comicbook painting montage, right? I thought it was the painting of Claire saving that guy from the fire that is missing, but now I'm not so sure.
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Post by Rachael on Nov 7, 2006 12:07:16 GMT -5
I'm not sure he actually saw it. It is a good question, though...why he lied. I didn't think Nathan had seen the painting, either. Maybe he lied to Peter because he wants to see the painting before Peter does, to see why it's so important, or because he thinks it might be useful to have it in case he needs leverage to use against his brother. Nathan is, after all, a sleazy politician, and accustomed to manipulating others. Yeah. It's possible I'm currently predisposed to see Nathan as evil.
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Post by fish1941 on Nov 7, 2006 12:34:00 GMT -5
I'm not sure he actually saw it. It is a good question, though...why he lied. It's the first or second frame of the comicbook painting montage, right? I thought it was the painting of Claire saving that guy from the fire that is missing, but now I'm not so sure. I thought that the missing painting was one of Niki being unconscious, after her encounter with DL. Oh well. Of all our heroes, is there one we can declare as using his/her powers for good and nothing else?
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Nov 7, 2006 12:50:16 GMT -5
It's the first or second frame of the comicbook painting montage, right? I thought it was the painting of Claire saving that guy from the fire that is missing, but now I'm not so sure. I thought that the missing painting was one of Niki being unconscious, after her encounter with DL. Oh well. Of all our heroes, is there one we can declare as using his/her powers for good and nothing else? I think what we're seeing is a learning curve. Future!Hiro has made his choice for good, so we know where Hiro fits, and Syler has already chosen evil, but the rest are still in transition. I think Peter has already made his choice, too, but that could change. That's one of the things that makes the show so fascinating - like Joss-people, they aren't all one thing or the other; there are shades of grey.
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Post by fish1941 on Nov 7, 2006 16:22:09 GMT -5
And yet . . . even after Hiro had decided to use his power for good, Ando managed to tempt him into using his power to cheat at gambling. The Future!Hiro that we had saw in Episodes 2/3 might only be a possible Hiro. As they say . . . the future is not certain.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Nov 7, 2006 16:32:57 GMT -5
And yet . . . even after Hiro had decided to use his power for good, Ando managed to tempt him into using his power to cheat at gambling. The Future!Hiro that we had saw in Episodes 2/3 might only be a possible Hiro. As they say . . . the future is not certain. Hiro, like the rest of them, is still learning, and I think he's just learned that crime does not pay. As Joss once said, "It's all about the journey, isn't it?"
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Post by Onjel on Nov 8, 2006 9:54:57 GMT -5
Greg made an interesting observation to me this morning. If Sylar were to steal the abilities of the guy we met last night, and then steal Claire's regenerative power, he could go nuclear in the middle of New York City and know he'd live to tell the tale. Gah!
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Post by fish1941 on Nov 8, 2006 12:55:36 GMT -5
The question remains . . . how many times will he have to learn that lesson?
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Nov 8, 2006 13:14:48 GMT -5
The question remains . . . how many times will he have to learn that lesson? Wait and see. Or don't. It's your choice.
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Post by fish1941 on Nov 8, 2006 14:20:46 GMT -5
The question remains . . . how many times will he have to learn that lesson? Wait and see. Or don't. It's your choice. Well . . . yes. I plan to do exactly that. The question I had posed was a rhetorical one. I felt it would be curious to see how many times Hiro would have to learn not to use his ability for selfish means.
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Post by Rachael on Nov 8, 2006 19:50:31 GMT -5
The question remains . . . how many times will he have to learn that lesson? It's a good question - so far, he looks like the most "pure" of our heroes, excepting possibly Peter. Although Peter has a dark side I don't care for - the brooding bit. Could be I'm transferring that from Jess, though. My money is on Hero being a more "simple" character, though, in the sense of "good vs. evil" complexity. I don't know why, but I imagine him working out his morality and sense of right and wrong, and the inevitable contradictions, without too much emotional trauma. This isn't to say I think he's uninteresting - it's just that I think his complexity will come from other places.
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Post by Rachael on Nov 8, 2006 19:50:57 GMT -5
Wait and see. Or don't. It's your choice. Well . . . yes. I plan to do exactly that. The question I had posed was a rhetorical one. I felt it would be curious to see how many times Hiro would have to learn not to use his ability for selfish means. I got that.
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Post by Sara on Nov 8, 2006 20:51:19 GMT -5
Wait and see. Or don't. It's your choice. Well . . . yes. I plan to do exactly that. The question I had posed was a rhetorical one. I felt it would be curious to see how many times Hiro would have to learn not to use his ability for selfish means. Oh, absolutely. For example, we see him do the poker trick again with the high rollers even after it had brought such disastrous results the first time. So it will be interesting to see how many times Hiro has to learn a particular lesson, especially as he explores the parameters of his ability.
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