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Post by Lola m on Nov 20, 2006 22:49:33 GMT -5
There's a joke thare about "serving the school" but I'm not gonna make it. Yay, Claire! She got the freak vote!!! Nathan, you flying stupid asshole. CHRIST, the address!!!! "Saving his life" Oh, cripes Nathan, you freaking idiot. TELL PETER, Simone.. Heh. Introduced as "Jessica Sanders" Very intriguing, wasn't it? Yep. First time we've seen Niki on that side, isn't it?
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Post by Lola m on Nov 20, 2006 22:49:56 GMT -5
Nathan, you're such a bastard... Niki doesn't look too happy. Go Claire! Revenge is sweet. Never underestimate the freaks. Nathan? Still a bastard. Word!
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Post by Lola m on Nov 20, 2006 22:55:18 GMT -5
lots of protecting going on tonight Micah ran away to protect his father from Jessica. Peter wants to protect Clair. Oh - the painting shows Peter dead? 8:12. In Odessa. Oh, crap! Oddly enough, the moment Peter showed up at the diner and told Ando about his power of taking other folks powers, I suddenly thought of two ways this could go. One would be for him to get hurt/killed, but that Claire was nearby and so he got better (which happened). The other was that Sylar came after him, but he sucked up all the different powers that Sylar had (assuming Sylar is stealing people's powers) and thus defeated him. Which . . . didn't happen exactly, but I think happened a bit when Sylar was throwing locker doors at him - I think he deflected them by using the telekinetic power of Sylar. Eeep! Very much lots of protecting, indeed. And also more of the theme that Sara pointed out in her most recent analysis (I will comment on it soon, Sara, I promise!) - believing / not believing.
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Post by Sara on Nov 20, 2006 22:58:18 GMT -5
Still not happy about Jackie.
And Nathan? Still a bastard. (yeah, I know he was trying to protect Peter. But that wasn't the way to do it.)
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Post by Lola m on Nov 20, 2006 23:00:39 GMT -5
Awww.... Good for DL to admit that part of him still loves her. "I ain't wearin' no tights. You can wear tights. I ain't." Heeee! Love all the super hero references we get. ;D I thought the idea of the kid being a "spirit guide" was very interesting. When he finds him and the kid is all "I don't come to anyone, they come to me", that seemed very telling. ;D And you'd win that bet, sort of. Yes!! I thought of that a bit later, but it is the perfect answer, isn't it? What I am very very curious about is . . . why didn't they nab Sylar earlier? Were they really unable to catch up to him or were they . . . not trying that hard until Claire was threatened? And by the end of the ep? She looks totally kick ass. Nice little moment when she said "I've been nice, but I could have been nicer" and he's all "then why don't you?". Good point, kid! ;D
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Post by Shan on Nov 20, 2006 23:01:25 GMT -5
Creatures of habit. Love the music and the high school groups. Hospitalized the MVP. Serving your school. Yay Claire!! All the freaks voted for her! Cool! So totally loved the freak vote. Having her win the "unpopularity contest". Embrace your inner freak, Claire! Yeaaaah. I believe that. Actually, he might even really believe that Peter is who he's protecting. But it's Nathan that Nathan is protecting, really. Very scary final shot of the ep, wasn't it? Like I said, I only saw the 2nd half of the episode, so unless I've missed something...I'm not particularly fond of Nathan so far, but I have this feeling that he's just acting like an asshat because he's in such deep, DEEP denial about himself...and his brother. He keeps having things pull him in one direction or another - like his brother's crazy idealism or his wife's frakked up "don't tell me you've cheated on me or I might never walk again" manipulation tactics, not to mention his mother's arch-manipulation abilities with the hollandaise press-bruncheon. He lives for too many people and not himself, IMO, and until he finally figures out what HE's about, he's going to continue to make (IMO again) bad choices. But I still keep seeing glimpses of...the desire to make the right choices, or the desire to understand his purpose or to understand that there's something out there that's greater than the mayfly political office he's chasing. It's like his personality and his powers are polar opposites of his brother's. Nathan's personality absorbs the will of whoever he's in contact with while his "special" power remains intact but Peter's personality and devotion to his mission (whether it's flying in dreams with Mr. Deveaux to help him to the next life or "save the cheerleader, save the world") remains intact as his "special" power takes on the abilities of the "special" he comes in contact with.
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Post by Lola m on Nov 20, 2006 23:01:42 GMT -5
anyone who couldn't see THIS one coming doesn't know anything about teenage girls. Dude!!! I mean, grounding her? Yeah, that was guaranteed to work.
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Post by Lola m on Nov 20, 2006 23:10:29 GMT -5
Uh-oh; things don't look good for Peter.
And why doesn't ClairesDad have the girl locked up in his lab with that big scary psychic-damper dude protecting her? I was wondering that too. Was it because he didn't want to tell her he knew about her? Not tell her what he's been up to? Because he wants them to stay just "father and daughter" for a while? Maybe he was hoping she'd come to him with the truth? And now that she is going to tell him, do we think he'll also confide in her completely? Clever you! I only thought of that when we saw Peter looking at the picture of the other cheerleader. I suddenly was all "ooh, what if Sylar also picks the wrong girl? That might help Claire escape!". Which is rather callous toward the cruel girl. I mean, yes she was a bitca, but she didn't really deserve to get her head sliced open. [/color][/quote] You ask a good question. I am now wondering if he's another one that was nabbed and then released by Cheer!daddy's group.
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Post by Lola m on Nov 20, 2006 23:13:42 GMT -5
I only saw the 2nd half of the episide tonight due to being gone to my son's school holiday performance, but...am I alone here or did anybody else NOT miss the whole screwed up Niki/Jessica/DL thing? I only want to see more of it to make sure that Micah is all right, but...yeesh...what a screwy deal. I hope the writers salvage something decent out of that mess. It was very moving when Micah was talking to his dad and saying that mom was sick and they needed to help her. It's rather sad to think of what he's potentially experienced these last few months, with Jessica periodically stepping into his mom.
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Post by Shan on Nov 20, 2006 23:19:12 GMT -5
I only saw the 2nd half of the episide tonight due to being gone to my son's school holiday performance, but...am I alone here or did anybody else NOT miss the whole screwed up Niki/Jessica/DL thing? I only want to see more of it to make sure that Micah is all right, but...yeesh...what a screwy deal. I hope the writers salvage something decent out of that mess. It was very moving when Micah was talking to his dad and saying that mom was sick and they needed to help her. It's rather sad to think of what he's potentially experienced these last few months, with Jessica periodically stepping into his mom. Yeah, like in the previous episode where he special-called home from the broken pay phone and knew right away that the woman he was talking to was NOT his mom.
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Post by Sara on Nov 20, 2006 23:20:01 GMT -5
<snipped> What I am very very curious about is . . . why didn't they nab Sylar earlier? Were they really unable to catch up to him or were they . . . not trying that hard until Claire was threatened? <more snipping> Because this was the first time they knew he'd be in a particular place at a particular time, thanks to Isaac's paintings; otherwise, as we've already seen he's able to flit in and out of places within a matter of moments. Unless they staked out every single "special" person they knew of, they really had no hope of ever catching him in the act before now. Oh, and speaking of Isaac--Greg suggested as we chatted that the figure in Isaac's latest painting might be our nuclear man Ted. Given the flames surrounding the person Isaac drew, I'd say that's a pretty good call on Greg's part.
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Post by Shan on Nov 20, 2006 23:24:35 GMT -5
<snipped> What I am very very curious about is . . . why didn't they nab Sylar earlier? Were they really unable to catch up to him or were they . . . not trying that hard until Claire was threatened? <more snipping> Because this was the first time they knew he'd be in a particular place at a particular time, thanks to Isaac's paintings; otherwise, as we've already seen he's able to flit in and out of places within a matter of moments. Unless they staked out every single "special" person they knew of, they really had no hope of ever catching him in the act before now. Oh, and speaking of Isaac--Greg suggested as we chatted that the figure in Isaac's latest painting might be our nuclear man Ted. Given the flames surrounding the person Isaac drew, I'd say that's a pretty good call on Greg's part. *nods* Also, even though we know Ted was a supposedly respected medical equipment salesman in his pre-special life, they've turned him into not only Mr. Angry Psycho Bad-Tempered Guy but they've also made him look like he lives under a bridge, so I'm not giving good odds on his chances of survival.
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Post by Matthew on Nov 20, 2006 23:47:22 GMT -5
So totally loved the freak vote. Having her win the "unpopularity contest". Embrace your inner freak, Claire! Yeaaaah. I believe that. Actually, he might even really believe that Peter is who he's protecting. But it's Nathan that Nathan is protecting, really. Very scary final shot of the ep, wasn't it? Like I said, I only saw the 2nd half of the episode, so unless I've missed something...I'm not particularly fond of Nathan so far, but I have this feeling that he's just acting like an asshat because he's in such deep, DEEP denial about himself...and his brother. He keeps having things pull him in one direction or another - like his brother's crazy idealism or his wife's frakked up "don't tell me you've cheated on me or I might never walk again" manipulation tactics, not to mention his mother's arch-manipulation abilities with the hollandaise press-bruncheon. He lives for too many people and not himself, IMO, and until he finally figures out what HE's about, he's going to continue to make (IMO again) bad choices. But I still keep seeing glimpses of...the desire to make the right choices, or the desire to understand his purpose or to understand that there's something out there that's greater than the mayfly political office he's chasing. It's like his personality and his powers are polar opposites of his brother's. Nathan's personality absorbs the will of whoever he's in contact with while his "special" power remains intact but Peter's personality and devotion to his mission (whether it's flying in dreams with Mr. Deveaux to help him to the next life or "save the cheerleader, save the world") remains intact as his "special" power takes on the abilities of the "special" he comes in contact with. NICELY summed-up! Especialy with the red. I don't dislike Nathan, though I can't say I particularly like him, much, either.
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Post by Matthew on Nov 20, 2006 23:54:44 GMT -5
There's a joke thare about "serving the school" but I'm not gonna make it. Yay, Claire! She got the freak vote!!! Nathan, you flying stupid asshole. CHRIST, the address!!!! "Saving his life" Oh, cripes Nathan, you freaking idiot. TELL PETER, Simone.. Heh. Introduced as "Jessica Sanders" Very intriguing, wasn't it? Yep. First time we've seen Niki on that side, isn't it? Yeah: from the previews for next week, it looks as if Niki and Jessica are gonna be... sort of a case of Sybil-type MPD. If one of Sybil's personalties were She-Hulk, only not green. And could be seen in mirrors. And the metaphor just breaks down into little pieces the moment I try to use it, doesn't it? Anyways, fascinating that Micah has seen her and knows her for what she is. Makes me wonder, though, if Jessica is a dissociated portion of the whole of Niki's personality, does Niki have the strength to toss people through doors, herself? Is this something that could be practiced by her as well, she's just unaware of it, because Jessica protects her from her own freak-ness as much as she protects Niki from the unpleasantness of the rest of the world?
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Post by Shan on Nov 20, 2006 23:55:40 GMT -5
Like I said, I only saw the 2nd half of the episode, so unless I've missed something...I'm not particularly fond of Nathan so far, but I have this feeling that he's just acting like an asshat because he's in such deep, DEEP denial about himself...and his brother. He keeps having things pull him in one direction or another - like his brother's crazy idealism or his wife's frakked up "don't tell me you've cheated on me or I might never walk again" manipulation tactics, not to mention his mother's arch-manipulation abilities with the hollandaise press-bruncheon. He lives for too many people and not himself, IMO, and until he finally figures out what HE's about, he's going to continue to make (IMO again) bad choices. But I still keep seeing glimpses of...the desire to make the right choices, or the desire to understand his purpose or to understand that there's something out there that's greater than the mayfly political office he's chasing. It's like his personality and his powers are polar opposites of his brother's. Nathan's personality absorbs the will of whoever he's in contact with while his "special" power remains intact but Peter's personality and devotion to his mission (whether it's flying in dreams with Mr. Deveaux to help him to the next life or "save the cheerleader, save the world") remains intact as his "special" power takes on the abilities of the "special" he comes in contact with. NICELY summed-up! Especialy with the red. I don't dislike Nathan, though I can't say I particularly like him, much, either. Thanks. The original concept I won't take credit for, though. I've been thinking of Zelig since meeting Peter, which was a direct-line 'uh-huh" regarding special powers. Tonight, I thought a little bit more about it when I compared Nathan's personality/powers to his brother's and got a big flip-side vibe off the two of them. Especially with Peter's conversation with Ando and how much I disagreed with Ando's assertion that they were "nothing" and should just sit there and wait for the Hiro/heroes to get back. Tsk. BAD sidekick. No biscuit.
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