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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Nov 28, 2006 8:17:54 GMT -5
He definitely absorbed the telekinetic power. I don't get the whole watchmaker angle either, except that it showed how strongly he resented following in his father's footsteps. I think "mimicked", not "absorbed". And let's not forget the religious overtones of "watchmaker" to begin with. William Paley used the watchmaker as the analogy for a designer of life in "Natural Theology" in 1802. The Argument From Design - if you happened upon a stone while walking, you'd assume it was just a stone - and it might always have been there. No designer needed. But if you happened across a watch, the complexity of the watch would immediately preclude you thinking it "just happened" or had always been there - you'd immediately assume a designer must have made it. I won't go into why this is a bad argument here, 'cause, not the place. However, the "watchmaker" is God. (And the "blind watchmaker" is natural selection - a la Richard Dawkins.) Nice, and sorry about the not-science. I've been wondering - why Claire Bennet? Somebody's an Austen fan? Probably not important, but every time someone addresses her dad as "Mr Bennet", I wonder.
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Post by Pixi on Nov 28, 2006 8:57:30 GMT -5
Oh damn. Poor Hiro. He can only change the future. Sort of like the rest of us, huh? Which makes sense because they have to deal with this issue or else Hiro could just erase whatever goes wrong each episode.
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Post by Sara on Nov 28, 2006 8:58:00 GMT -5
Nope. YOU can't change the past. But you might be able to talk others into doing it for you. Oh, and also...Peter clearly has a power of his own. He's clairvoyant. Sometimes. So...Sylar can look at someone else's brain and then reconfigure his own? Oooo---I like that theory. Given the available evidence, it makes a helluva lot of sense.
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Post by Pixi on Nov 28, 2006 9:17:52 GMT -5
Their future is written in their DNA. Just as the past is written in stone. And a hero will be lost. Do you think it's radioactive guy? Although whether he qualifies as a hero is certainly a question. I simply don't see them killing any of the main guys next week. What do S'cubies think?
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Post by Pixi on Nov 28, 2006 9:19:05 GMT -5
Nope. YOU can't change the past. But you might be able to talk others into doing it for you. Oh, and also...Peter clearly has a power of his own. He's clairvoyant. Sometimes. So...Sylar can look at someone else's brain and then reconfigure his own? Oooo---I like that theory. Given the available evidence, it makes a helluva lot of sense. But I want to know what he is doing with the brains in the present. Just cutting people's heads open to look at them?
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Post by Rachael on Nov 28, 2006 10:03:30 GMT -5
Oooo---I like that theory. Given the available evidence, it makes a helluva lot of sense. But I want to know what he is doing with the brains in the present. Just cutting people's heads open to look at them? Yup, that's my theory. Ignoring the obvious, which is that none of the powers likely results in a visible change in brain structure, I'm hypothesizing that he looks at the brains, perhaps even microscopically, sees how they're "different", and then makes that change in himself.
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Post by Karen on Nov 28, 2006 10:13:59 GMT -5
Nope. YOU can't change the past. But you might be able to talk others into doing it for you. Oh, and also...Peter clearly has a power of his own. He's clairvoyant. Sometimes. So...Sylar can look at someone else's brain and then reconfigure his own? Peter is clairvoyant when it comes to his brother - he feels what Nathan feels. All he needs to do is look at the brain? Fits with the whole watchmaker glasses and how he can see the inner workings of them so easily.
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Post by Rachael on Nov 28, 2006 10:24:34 GMT -5
Nope. YOU can't change the past. But you might be able to talk others into doing it for you. Oh, and also...Peter clearly has a power of his own. He's clairvoyant. Sometimes. So...Sylar can look at someone else's brain and then reconfigure his own? Peter is clairvoyant when it comes to his brother - he feels what Nathan feels. All he needs to do is look at the brain? Fits with the whole watchmaker glasses and how he can see the inner workings of them so easily. Right, exactly. I'm also counting the dream about whatshername's father (I honestly can't remember, sorry) the night he died as evidence of some sort of clairvoyant/telepathic/empathic ability. Since both were dreams - the car crash being the other example - I figure maybe that's how he works. Stuff comes to him in dreams.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Nov 28, 2006 10:31:04 GMT -5
But I want to know what he is doing with the brains in the present. Just cutting people's heads open to look at them? Yup, that's my theory. Ignoring the obvious, which is that none of the powers likely results in a visible change in brain structure, I'm hypothesizing that he looks at the brains, perhaps even microscopically, sees how they're "different", and then makes that change in himself. That would fit with his skill at watch repair - he knew that Suresh's watch wasn't working properly before he'd even listened to it.
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Post by Sara on Nov 28, 2006 10:36:58 GMT -5
But I want to know what he is doing with the brains in the present. Just cutting people's heads open to look at them? Yup, that's my theory. Ignoring the obvious, which is that none of the powers likely results in a visible change in brain structure, I'm hypothesizing that he looks at the brains, perhaps even microscopically, sees how they're "different", and then makes that change in himself. Well, we know in the case of FutureIsaac and the man frozen in front of his cereal that their brains were completely gone; the guy because we could see it, Isaac because the cop asked Hiro what he'd done with the brain (although I honestly don't remember if Audrey said anything to Matt about the brain being missing from any of Sylar's other victims). Yet when he attacked both Charlie and Jackie it didn't appear he had any means by which to take their entire brain with him in order to examine it more closely later. So while I'd rather not visualize the possibilities, I still have to wonder what it is he's doing with a brain once he has one. Anyone for spaghetti?
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Post by fish1941 on Nov 28, 2006 10:40:34 GMT -5
Niki's cute husband is named D.L. As to who will bite the dust . . . I just don't know. It would have to be one of the lesser characters. Quite frankly, killing off a major character so early in the season would seem a bit off to me. Then again . . . it could happen.
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Post by Karen on Nov 28, 2006 10:45:00 GMT -5
He definitely absorbed the telekinetic power. I don't get the whole watchmaker angle either, except that it showed how strongly he resented following in his father's footsteps. I think "mimicked", not "absorbed". And let's not forget the religious overtones of "watchmaker" to begin with. William Paley used the watchmaker as the analogy for a designer of life in "Natural Theology" in 1802. The Argument From Design - if you happened upon a stone while walking, you'd assume it was just a stone - and it might always have been there. No designer needed. But if you happened across a watch, the complexity of the watch would immediately preclude you thinking it "just happened" or had always been there - you'd immediately assume a designer must have made it. I won't go into why this is a bad argument here, 'cause, not the place. However, the "watchmaker" is God. (And the "blind watchmaker" is natural selection - a la Richard Dawkins.) Oh, interesting! It does go to show how primitive man might have conjured up God in the first place - to explain things they couldn't understand, and why now, because of all the scientific explanations we've found for things, so many people don't believe there is one grand designer. Things that are still a mystery to us are explained away by the thought that we just haven't figured out the 'why' of them yet. Don't know how this all fits with 'Heroes'. //careens off road on the tangent bus//
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Post by Rachael on Nov 28, 2006 10:52:31 GMT -5
I think "mimicked", not "absorbed". And let's not forget the religious overtones of "watchmaker" to begin with. William Paley used the watchmaker as the analogy for a designer of life in "Natural Theology" in 1802. The Argument From Design - if you happened upon a stone while walking, you'd assume it was just a stone - and it might always have been there. No designer needed. But if you happened across a watch, the complexity of the watch would immediately preclude you thinking it "just happened" or had always been there - you'd immediately assume a designer must have made it. I won't go into why this is a bad argument here, 'cause, not the place. However, the "watchmaker" is God. (And the "blind watchmaker" is natural selection - a la Richard Dawkins.) Oh, interesting! It does go to show how primitive man might have conjured up God in the first place - to explain things they couldn't understand, and why now, because of all the scientific explanations we've found for things, so many people don't believe there is one grand designer. Things that are still a mystery to us are explained away by the thought that we just haven't figured out the 'why' of them yet. Don't know how this all fits with 'Heroes'. //careens off on a tangent// Sylar may think he's God...and if he really can design his own brain to do anything he wants it to, he's got rather a strong body of evidence that he's God-like, anyway. That's the only connection I see - Sylar thinking he's becoming God.
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Post by Karen on Nov 28, 2006 11:01:58 GMT -5
Yup, that's my theory. Ignoring the obvious, which is that none of the powers likely results in a visible change in brain structure, I'm hypothesizing that he looks at the brains, perhaps even microscopically, sees how they're "different", and then makes that change in himself. Well, we know in the case of FutureIsaac and the man frozen in front of his cereal that their brains were completely gone; the guy because we could see it, Isaac because the cop asked Hiro what he'd done with the brain (although I honestly don't remember if Audrey said anything to Matt about the brain being missing from any of Sylar's other victims). Yet when he attacked both Charlie and Jackie it didn't appear he had any means by which to take their entire brain with him in order to examine it more closely later. So while I'd rather not visualize the possibilities, I still have to wonder what it is he's doing with a brain once he has one. Anyone for spaghetti? eww.... Since he can cut thru skulls with his brain/eyes, however, maybe he also vaporizes/melts the brain in some way and puts it in a container of some sort and sucks the essence out later. Do you think there is some kind of chip in the brain that he senses and can also sense when it is broken?
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Post by Shan on Nov 28, 2006 12:01:15 GMT -5
Well, we know in the case of FutureIsaac and the man frozen in front of his cereal that their brains were completely gone; the guy because we could see it, Isaac because the cop asked Hiro what he'd done with the brain (although I honestly don't remember if Audrey said anything to Matt about the brain being missing from any of Sylar's other victims). Yet when he attacked both Charlie and Jackie it didn't appear he had any means by which to take their entire brain with him in order to examine it more closely later. So while I'd rather not visualize the possibilities, I still have to wonder what it is he's doing with a brain once he has one. Anyone for spaghetti? eww.... Since he can cut thru skulls with his brain/eyes, however, maybe he also vaporizes/melts the brain in some way and puts it in a container of some sort and sucks the essence out later. Do you think there is some kind of chip in the brain that he senses and can also sense when it is broken? Do we know whether Syler is getting to the "specials" before or after Bennet? Also, in the message he left for Chandra, Syler blamed Chandra for making him like he was. He also told Chandra that he couldn't control 'the hunger' whatever that was about. Boy, I need to re-watch last night's episode. I had SO many interruptions.
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