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Post by Matthew on Dec 5, 2006 16:48:08 GMT -5
Huh. Well, "Paire" smacks of jailbait to me. I wouldn't worry. Claire's just hero-worshipping the cute guy (with powers!) who saved her life, and Peter isn't interested in Claire in that way. He's in love with Simone. Not to mention the fact that Claire currently thinks that Peter's powers are exactly the same as her own, the he's her same breed of freak. I don't see "Paire" as a 'ship that would sail.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Dec 5, 2006 16:54:03 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry. Claire's just hero-worshipping the cute guy (with powers!) who saved her life, and Peter isn't interested in Claire in that way. He's in love with Simone. Not to mention the fact that Claire currently thinks that Peter's powers are exactly the same as her own, the he's her same breed of freak. I don't see "Paire" as a 'ship that would sail. I could see a big brother-little sister relationship developing - Peter's a very nurturing sort, and Claire's going to need a grownup she can trust; she's just found out that her dad has been mindwiping people (or facilitating the mindwipes, I know, I know). The 'ship name is cute, but there is no there there.
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Post by rich on Dec 5, 2006 17:31:19 GMT -5
I still don't think it's the DNA he's absorbing. Or at least, not only that. Because it doesn't make sense, to me. So of course I'll be wrong, 'cause it clearly makes sense to the writers. I think what he's doing is literally seeing how the brains are different. These powers, most of them, involve changes in how the brains work, and I think that's why he has to look at them. Because all the DNA in the world isn't a blueprint for brain construction. All of which makes sense, of course. My original thought wasn't so much about Sylar's method of acquiring power, it was the overall effect said acquisitions could eventually have. If we operate on the assumption that Peter was negatively affected by the close proximity of too many "specials" at once, it offers the further possibility that Sylar has a big problem on his hands (or brain, as the case may be). For his part, Peter could solve this problem easily enough: learn his limits, then monitor his level of contact. Sylar, on the other hand, appears to absorb powers permanently. If he were to take over Nuke-Dude's power, perhaps Sylar himself will become the bomb due to an overload he can't escape. Or, in the more depressing alternative, the heroes defeat Sylar somehow... but while doing so, Peter gets close enough to become a human nuclear weapon in his own right. He may have to commit suicide to save the world, which would fit the prophetic scenario in the dream. In Peter's first vision, Sylar taunts him for not "understanding" or "knowing how to handle" power. (Don't remember Sylar's exact wording. I'm a bit fuzzy-headed this week.) Sylar seems to know how to integrate the various powers that he steals into his DNA. Peter, in his second vision, surrounded by too many people with powers, overloads and explodes. Peter visions may be telling him that he needs Sylar, his sense of "how things work", in order to avert catastrophe.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Dec 5, 2006 18:01:51 GMT -5
All of which makes sense, of course. My original thought wasn't so much about Sylar's method of acquiring power, it was the overall effect said acquisitions could eventually have. If we operate on the assumption that Peter was negatively affected by the close proximity of too many "specials" at once, it offers the further possibility that Sylar has a big problem on his hands (or brain, as the case may be). For his part, Peter could solve this problem easily enough: learn his limits, then monitor his level of contact. Sylar, on the other hand, appears to absorb powers permanently. If he were to take over Nuke-Dude's power, perhaps Sylar himself will become the bomb due to an overload he can't escape. Or, in the more depressing alternative, the heroes defeat Sylar somehow... but while doing so, Peter gets close enough to become a human nuclear weapon in his own right. He may have to commit suicide to save the world, which would fit the prophetic scenario in the dream. In Peter's first vision, Sylar taunts him for not "understanding" or "knowing how to handle" power. (Don't remember Sylar's exact wording. I'm a bit fuzzy-headed this week.) Sylar seems to know how to integrate the various powers that he steals into his DNA. Peter, in his second vision, surrounded by too many people with powers, overloads and explodes. Peter visions may be telling him that he needs Sylar, his sense of "how things work", in order to avert catastrophe. Wow. I am in awe. What a great idea. I just had a horrible thought - In Peter's first vision, Nathan turned into Sylar. What if Sylar kills Nathan and absorbs his power, and that's what drives Peter to confront him? I'd hate to see Peter forced to kill someone. Or maybe not that horrible - Peter is a hospice nurse, someone who understands what dying people need and helps them accept their own deaths. Maybe that's what Sylar needs, and what Peter can give him - healing and release from a life he hates. Or maybe my brain is even fuzzier than I thought. Must be that woolly-headed liberal thinking catching up with me. *Looks around nervously for high school hyenas*
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Post by rich on Dec 5, 2006 19:30:56 GMT -5
Heee! Now I hear that to the tune of "how do you mend a broken heart". How do you stop an exploding man? How do you stop the world from going "Boom"? A mushroom cloud the sun's obscuring As New York becomes a big tomb.
Hey...Hey..How do you stop a guy who's glowing? Whose power can give such a rash? Maybe the Haitian will be the wet blanket That stops our turning to ash."#clap# #clap# #clap#
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Post by Sara on Dec 5, 2006 21:13:06 GMT -5
Huh. Well, "Paire" smacks of jailbait to me. I wouldn't worry. Claire's just hero-worshipping the cute guy (with powers!) who saved her life, and Peter isn't interested in Claire in that way. He's in love with Simone. Oh, I know. But you wouldn't believe the number of people who were 'shipping a 17 year-old and a guy in his late twenties/early thirties right from the get go. It was a little scary.
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Post by anne on the fly on Dec 5, 2006 21:21:29 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry. Claire's just hero-worshipping the cute guy (with powers!) who saved her life, and Peter isn't interested in Claire in that way. He's in love with Simone. Oh, I know. But you wouldn't believe the number of people who were 'shipping a 17 year-old and a guy in his late twenties/early thirties right from the get go. It was a little scary. Well, you know better, and I know better, but Some People have no common sense... *Buzzes off again*
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Post by RAKSHA on Dec 6, 2006 0:55:16 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry. Claire's just hero-worshipping the cute guy (with powers!) who saved her life, and Peter isn't interested in Claire in that way. He's in love with Simone. Oh, I know. But you wouldn't believe the number of people who were 'shipping a 17 year-old and a guy in his late twenties/early thirties right from the get go. It was a little scary. I would imagine that Claire is deep into hero-worshipping Peter - older, good-looking, saved her life, has powers like hers (she thinks) and she could get infatuated bigtime - I hope Peter has the sense to gently deflect her.
Of course, a year from now, or even some months, Claire will be 18 and at least legally not jailbait; though I don't think she's mature enough for a romantic relationship with someone so much older.
Two things I don't understand about the episode:
Why wouldn't HRG kill off Sylar instead of having him healed and kept alive - he should know how incredibly dangerous and murderous the guy is, and Sylar told him his intentions to kill HRG's daughter? I don't care who my bosses were, I'd have made sure he never awakened. Also, why would HRG have Claire mind-wiped? Wouldn't it be easier to keep her alive if she knew her true powers, not to mention the potential dangers that threaten her? Is HRG over-confident in his own ability to protect his daughter, or just a control freak?
GAIL
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Post by Onjel on Dec 6, 2006 9:07:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry. Claire's just hero-worshipping the cute guy (with powers!) who saved her life, and Peter isn't interested in Claire in that way. He's in love with Simone. Oh, I know. But you wouldn't believe the number of people who were 'shipping a 17 year-old and a guy in his late twenties/early thirties right from the get go. It was a little scary. "Bangel" anyone?
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Post by Vlad on Dec 6, 2006 10:59:23 GMT -5
Not to mention the fact that Claire currently thinks that Peter's powers are exactly the same as her own, the he's her same breed of freak. I don't see "Paire" as a 'ship that would sail. I could see a big brother-little sister relationship developing - Peter's a very nurturing sort, and Claire's going to need a grownup she can trust; she's just found out that her dad has been mindwiping people (or facilitating the mindwipes, I know, I know). The 'ship name is cute, but there is no there there. I agree! They are cute and there is chemistry there, but she's too young and Peter loves another. I see a striking resemblance to the Wolverine/Rogue relationship in X-Men, 'cept here, the powers are basically reversed among the two. Vlad
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Post by Lola m on Dec 6, 2006 22:02:18 GMT -5
How do you stop an exploding man? How do you stop the world from going "Boom"? A mushroom cloud the sun's obscuring As New York becomes a big tomb.
Hey...Hey..How do you stop a guy who's glowing? Whose power can give such a rash? Maybe the Haitian will be the wet blanket That stops our turning to ash." Eeetah, Rich!! **bows down before Sharky and worships his mad song-parody-ing skillz**
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Post by Lola m on Dec 6, 2006 22:07:52 GMT -5
Oh, I know. But you wouldn't believe the number of people who were 'shipping a 17 year-old and a guy in his late twenties/early thirties right from the get go. It was a little scary. I would imagine that Claire is deep into hero-worshipping Peter - older, good-looking, saved her life, has powers like hers (she thinks) and she could get infatuated bigtime - I hope Peter has the sense to gently deflect her.
Of course, a year from now, or even some months, Claire will be 18 and at least legally not jailbait; though I don't think she's mature enough for a romantic relationship with someone so much older.
Two things I don't understand about the episode:
Why wouldn't HRG kill off Sylar instead of having him healed and kept alive - he should know how incredibly dangerous and murderous the guy is, and Sylar told him his intentions to kill HRG's daughter? I don't care who my bosses were, I'd have made sure he never awakened. Also, why would HRG have Claire mind-wiped? Wouldn't it be easier to keep her alive if she knew her true powers, not to mention the potential dangers that threaten her? Is HRG over-confident in his own ability to protect his daughter, or just a control freak?
GAILI think his bosses want Sylar alive because they want to use him or his power. Which makes me even more suspicious of them, whoever they are. As to mind-wiping Claire . . . . I still think cheer!daddy is keeping her hidden from his employers. And that he thinks erasing her memories is the easiest way to keep her from investigating too much and possibly coming to their attention. Also, will keep her ignorant about her family and friends that were mind-wiped, so she will stay his adoring little girl. But, that's just my vibe right now. I could be completely wrong.
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Post by Lola m on Dec 6, 2006 22:08:56 GMT -5
Oh, I know. But you wouldn't believe the number of people who were 'shipping a 17 year-old and a guy in his late twenties/early thirties right from the get go. It was a little scary. "Bangel" anyone? Heeeeee! Well, I wasn't going to be the first one to say it. #smirk#
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Post by Jan on Dec 8, 2006 8:06:57 GMT -5
So, do we think Daddy Dearest will wipe her memory, or will her healing ability mean he's unable to do so? Man, I hope so.
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Post by Jan on Dec 8, 2006 8:31:56 GMT -5
Hm. Since indications are the online graphic novels are canon (although no solid confirmation, ie a reference in the show to something that only happened in a comic), I thought I'd share that this week's installment is about what happens when Mr. Bennett tells Eden's father that his daughter is dead. And if anyone's interested in reading the story themselves, you can find it here. Oooh. Thanks for this link, Sara.
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