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Post by RAKSHA on Feb 27, 2007 18:36:55 GMT -5
Eetah that. Am I the only one who got sniffly at the end? I really felt sorry for Mr Bennet; he tried so hard to protect his daughter, even if his methods were, shall we say, questionable, and poor Claire - she's having to grow up so fast. Wondering if/when we'll see Daddy Bennet again? Seems pretty likely. Should be an interesting confrontation. In the earlier episodes Jack Coleman (the actor) was listed as "guesting". I'm trying to recall if he was ever listed as a regular? 3 more thoughts: --If we see Daddy Bennet again I am left to really wonder exactly what memories have been removed? It didn't seem like the process was terribly exact. And it was memories, not emotions, so it's not like J.D. (Matthew's name for the Haitian) could just take his love of Claire, but not he memories. So what happens when Mr. Bennet goes home and Mom and Brother still remember all about Claire, even her unique ability? I'm guessing this will be a loose end we won't be privy to. --Someone speculated that Mr. B started to love baby Claire when she smiled (was that smile computer manipulated? it looked totally weird on the baby) at him. I'd have to rewatch to see why I did NOT get that impression. I'd have said it was during the scene where she helps him choose his glasses and when he puts the final pair on she says "you look like my dad!" Kudos to the writers for working in the horn-rimmed glasses as a plot point and to the filmers and make-up people for so convincingly making people look younger. --It's such a HUGE cast. But, so far at least, they've done a decent job at jumping back and forth between regulars AND making each storyline interesting enough that we aren't complaing too much about who we aren't seeing. Oh, they're doing a splendid job of keeping the viewer interested - hopefully there will still be enough questions after the end of the season to keep the next season interesting without it seeming too much in love with its own mystery (as Lost has become). I find all the characters interesting. Dang, I wish the lady mechanic with super-hearing hadn't been murdered; she'd have been fun to have around...
Poor Claire, the kid's fate is tugging at my heartstrings already. To go from that lovely family picture of them hugging and emotionally forgiving each other to her going off with a man she barely knows and her father having to forget all about her to save her....And Claire is too young to be totally on her own. I'm thinking that Nathan will eventually acknowledge and care for her, financially if nothing else.
I imagine that Jean-Deaux was given orders to mindwipe Mrs. Bennet and L'il Brother Bennet (?Lyle) for all memories of Claire, not to mention records of her, all her friends, etc. Though how they'd be able to reach everyone who's ever met her, I don't know, especially since Jean-Deaux has now left the building with the golden gosling herself.
GAIL
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Post by Queen E on Feb 27, 2007 22:19:41 GMT -5
Whoa. Intense and exciting episode, as well as heartbreaking. Excellent.
Predictions, thoughts, what have you?
Who was Claude protecting? My prediction is that it was Peter Petrelli. If you tie that in with what Claude said last week about "maximum potential": "That's you, mate," it would make sense that Peter would be the one, above all, that they shouldn't get their hands on, and that Claude would risk his life for.
I don't think that Kaito is Lindermen. And I think Hiro is probably his natural son...and that he is perhaps in denial that his son would manifest powers.
The Haitian's higher authority? God. (See: "Godsend")
Say I'm wrong about Kaito being Hiro's birth father. Does that mean that all of that generation: Peter, Claire, DL, Niki, Nathan, and Hiro, were "placed" with someone within the organization?
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Feb 27, 2007 22:46:30 GMT -5
Whoa. Intense and exciting episode, as well as heartbreaking. Excellent. Predictions, thoughts, what have you? Who was Claude protecting? My prediction is that it was Peter Petrelli. If you tie that in with what Claude said last week about "maximum potential": "That's you, mate," it would make sense that Peter would be the one, above all, that they shouldn't get their hands on, and that Claude would risk his life for. I don't think that Kaito is Lindermen. And I think Hiro is probably his natural son...and that he is perhaps in denial that his son would manifest powers. The Haitian's higher authority? God. (See: "Godsend") Say I'm wrong about Kaito being Hiro's birth father. Does that mean that all of that generation: Peter, Claire, DL, Niki, Nathan, and Hiro, were "placed" with someone within the organization?That'd make Micah a real wild card, then - he's still with his birth parents and apparently manifesting his powers under the Organization's radar.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 3, 2007 21:06:33 GMT -5
Teaser
Still, silent house. Only Mrs. Muggles stirs.
If you wanted to hurt this guy, hurting Mr. Muggle's the way to do it. Hee!
Unlikely partners.
Now we're back her again.
Flashback time! Whee!!!!
How do you feel about paper? Hee!
Better or worse
People are fragile, like teacups.
Taking measure to keep people safe.
Morally grey territory. Yeah, we know.
Partner, one of them.
Claude!
He must have gotten assigned to the Haitian later.
Claire's the wild card in this confrontation.
Ted still thinks that Daddy Bennett gave him his powers.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 3, 2007 21:14:07 GMT -5
Part I
Matt still thinks that Daddy Bennett gave him his powers.
Maybe Daddy Bennett's people did give everybody their powers. Or did they just happen?
This roof top again.
The Baby? Claire?
Daddy Nakamura!
Daddy Bennett speaks Japanese!
Why is Daddy Nakamura involved with the Paper People?
Hiro!!!!!! Does he remember this exchange?
The question of a cure.
Thinking in Japanese. #rofl1#
Ted's a loose cannon.
Matts real freaked. Kinda like when Helo shot Athena.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 3, 2007 21:22:15 GMT -5
Part II
Daddy Bennett cooperating with Matt.
Do not make the same mistake I did. What did Daddy Bennett do?
The Paper People don't know about Claire? So Daddy Nakamura's not working with them.
The Man With No Name's mute? No he's not. But I guess he's hiding that fact as a defense? Or something? Why would he pretned to be mute?
Cool shot off the mirror.
Ted playing with fire. Literally.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 3, 2007 21:27:58 GMT -5
Part III
Daddy Bennett knows that the Man With No Name can speak.
Claude's a security breach.
Parting of ways.
Company interests vs personal interests.
There's a reason they make guard rails.
The old pillows under the sheet trick. Hee!
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 3, 2007 21:36:47 GMT -5
Part IV
Trusty duct tape.
Question of God and Miracles and Faith.
Ted has a death wish.
Blames Daddy Bennett for his wife's death. Because Daddy Bennett didn't kill him.
Oh, no! It's that guy!
And all hell breaks loose.
Why not let Claire administer the tranquilizer?
Yeah, seriously.
Won't the heat melt the syringe?
What's up with that guy? He shot Ted and now he's just standing around giving knowing looks? Why exactly did he show up?
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 3, 2007 21:46:41 GMT -5
Coda Ah, Daddy Bennett ratted The Man With No Name out and blamed him for hiding Claire. Or the two of them planned it together. Who is that chick? She's suspicious. The Paper People have both Ted and Matt. Matt's going to be Daddy Bennett's next partner? Will Matt do it? The Paper people are interesting in studying the cause of the heroes' powers. So they really didn't have anything to do with giving them powers. So Daddy Bennett lets Claire go. The origin of Daddy Bennett's glasses! Daddy Bennett tells Claire she's adopted. Back to this bridge. So the Man With No Name and Daddy Bennett are in it together. The Man With No Name is going to stage Daddy Bennett's death? Oh, he's going to erase Daddy Bennett's memory. Aww... So Daddy Bennett was a good guy after all. Great Episode.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 3, 2007 22:02:05 GMT -5
so the Haitan (REALLY wish they'd give him a name) has been faking being mute since he was a teenager? wow. given the company, it seems like that was a really good move. No kidding. So that's why he doesn't have a name. He didn't tell anyone what it was. Oh! That makes sense. If he can't write either, that is.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 3, 2007 22:04:44 GMT -5
That was such a wow scene!! **nods** And now it's making me wonder if SuluDad is really Hiro's daddy. Oh, interesting. So, SuluDad could've been given Hiro to 'take care of'. I'm going to need a bigger clipboard to keep all this straight. Ooh, could very well be.
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Post by artemis on Mar 5, 2007 14:23:21 GMT -5
Oh, no! It's that guy! And all hell breaks loose. Why not let Claire administer the tranquilizer? Yeah, seriously. Won't the heat melt the syringe? What's up with that guy? He shot Ted and now he's just standing around giving knowing looks? Why exactly did he show up? i rewatched the end when it reaired on Sci Fi on friday and this is what i came up with the second time around: the boss ("that guy") shot ted because he had suspicions that claire was indestructible and he was willing to risk his employees, himself, and potentially the entire area to prove it. he figured that if she really was indestrucitble, she would send her dad and matt out and be the one to administer the tranquilizer. that's why he looked so self-satisfied when they did come out, and then when she came out all burnt and healed immediately. i thought that (and a few other moments in the episode) said an awful lot about his character, even though we've only seen him for one episode thus far.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 5, 2007 16:39:16 GMT -5
Oh, no! It's that guy! And all hell breaks loose. Why not let Claire administer the tranquilizer? Yeah, seriously. Won't the heat melt the syringe? What's up with that guy? He shot Ted and now he's just standing around giving knowing looks? Why exactly did he show up? i rewatched the end when it reaired on Sci Fi on friday and this is what i came up with the second time around: the boss ("that guy") shot ted because he had suspicions that claire was indestructible and he was willing to risk his employees, himself, and potentially the entire area to prove it. he figured that if she really was indestrucitble, she would send her dad and matt out and be the one to administer the tranquilizer. that's why he looked so self-satisfied when they did come out, and then when she came out all burnt and healed immediately. i thought that (and a few other moments in the episode) said an awful lot about his character, even though we've only seen him for one episode thus far. Thank you for explaining this for me. So many details, I can't notice them all...
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Post by artemis on Mar 5, 2007 21:21:07 GMT -5
i rewatched the end when it reaired on Sci Fi on friday and this is what i came up with the second time around: <snip> Thank you for explaining this for me. So many details, I can't notice them all... i'm not sure i'm right. it's just my interpretation. ;D
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Post by Onjel on Mar 31, 2007 10:28:14 GMT -5
Here are my questions, without having read the rest of the thread: 1. Why is Haitian Mind Wiper (HMW) loyal to Claire above all others and who in her life is he working for, answering to? 2. Is Hiro really related to Takei's character and wasn't little Hiro the cutest? 3. How did Claude Raines survive the gunshots and what appears to have been a fall off that bridge? Though, I don't believe he fell off the bridge and I believe only that he suffered two gunshots, pretty serious ones though. 4. Why are the rest of the Bennett family members not suffering from radiation poisoning from all the prolonged exposure to nuclear man? 5. It can't be coincidental, can it, that Isaac lives and paints in the same building where Claire was given to Daddy Bennett? 6. Were these people engineered or just the product of random mutations? This one's yours Rachael7. Does Takei's character have an inkling of the danger they are all facing should things go awry and New York get destroyed? 8. Is the HMW's job on Daddy Bennett going to be sufficient to shield Daddy, Claire and HMW from discovery? 9. Most importantly, what, in God's name did Eric Roberts do to his face and when did he get so short? I really liked this episode, which I finally saw last night. It broke my heart to see Claire finally believe Daddy Bennett and admit how much she loved him, only to have to separate from him for her own good.
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