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Post by Shan on Mar 6, 2007 19:52:50 GMT -5
Poor Claire is going to be so disappointed that Peter is her uncle!
GAIL
Nevermind Claire, what about the REST of us!?
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Post by Sara on Mar 6, 2007 19:56:33 GMT -5
At first, after my kids and I (keep in mind: 10yo and freaking 5yo) were screaming, at several points "Shut up and KILL him!", I thought...okay, Peter can grab Mohinder and go blinvisible and fly away. Later today, I thought...okay, wait...Peter can stop time and teleport if he realizes what he picked up from Hiro. And can I just say to whatever LJ person said Hiro is not badass: Hiro and his supercuteness IS totally badass. He's just suffering a temporary lack of confidence. So I hope this LJ person, should s/he should be lucky enough to HAVE a partner, is able to show a bit more sympathy to said partner should they ever suffer a similar confidence-induced lack of, you know, ability to perform. *runs off to read rest of thread* See, I'm not sure I'd see supercuteness as badass; to me, it's the total opposite of badass. Not that Hiro isn't completely made of awesome, because he is. But I'd categorize Future!Hiro as badass; present Hiro... not so much.
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Post by Shan on Mar 6, 2007 19:59:46 GMT -5
I KNOW!!!!! **weeps and rends garment** **ok, tugs at garment, I don't really want to have to do any sewing** I'm with you!
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Post by Shan on Mar 6, 2007 20:02:12 GMT -5
Well. Neither Mohinder nor Claire's mother are as stupid as they seem.... Big relieved YAAAAY!
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Post by Shan on Mar 6, 2007 20:04:22 GMT -5
Hiro said he didn't recognize Peter without his scar—and I bet that's the scar he was talking about! I thought the same thing...means that Peter's almost certainly gonna survive this, if only because he hasn't acquired any new visible scars since Hiro said that. Maybe telekenesis-induced injuries leave scars in this 'verse?
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Post by Shan on Mar 6, 2007 20:05:26 GMT -5
I was so hopefull for a while. But then when Sylar goaded him and he didn't kill Sylar, I was just all . . . damn. You should just have taken his head right off, Mohinder. Whatever he knew? You can find out some other way. Or else you don't need to know. Yes. It's the "stay and gloat". Gets you every time. He should have: 1) Extracted any samples he needed while he had Sylar drugged. 2) Emptied the gun into Sylar's head before he woke up. 3) Left town. Yes. Even my kindergartener agrees. The writers need a swift kick up the backside.
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Post by Shan on Mar 6, 2007 20:06:50 GMT -5
i must admit i kind of enjoyed that moment myself. i was tiring of isaac blaming everybody but himself for simone's death. Yeah. And I also don't like how Peter seemed to NOT assert that it was NOT his fault.
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Post by Shan on Mar 6, 2007 20:11:38 GMT -5
At first, after my kids and I (keep in mind: 10yo and freaking 5yo) were screaming, at several points "Shut up and KILL him!", I thought...okay, Peter can grab Mohinder and go blinvisible and fly away. Later today, I thought...okay, wait...Peter can stop time and teleport if he realizes what he picked up from Hiro. And can I just say to whatever LJ person said Hiro is not badass: Hiro and his supercuteness IS totally badass. He's just suffering a temporary lack of confidence. So I hope this LJ person, should s/he should be lucky enough to HAVE a partner, is able to show a bit more sympathy to said partner should they ever suffer a similar confidence-induced lack of, you know, ability to perform. *runs off to read rest of thread* See, I'm not sure I'd see supercuteness as badass; to me, it's the total opposite of badass. Not that Hiro isn't completely made of awesome, because he is. But I'd categorize Future!Hiro as badass; present Hiro... not so much. Supercute!Hiro becomes Future!Hiro so the continuity of the badass is implicit. Particularly because Supercute!Hiro has been after the Sword of Badassness all this time KNOWING it was the root of his Badassness. IMHO of course... Also, the need for the Sword of Badassness has been, IMO, Supercute!Hiro's downfall. Seems to me that his powers have muchly hinged upon his believing in them, and in himself, and he's staked a lot on attaining the sword.
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Post by Matthew on Mar 6, 2007 23:45:51 GMT -5
See, I'm not sure I'd see supercuteness as badass; to me, it's the total opposite of badass. Not that Hiro isn't completely made of awesome, because he is. But I'd categorize Future!Hiro as badass; present Hiro... not so much. Supercute!Hiro becomes Future!Hiro so the continuity of the badass is implicit. Particularly because Supercute!Hiro has been after the Sword of Badassness all this time KNOWING it was the root of his Badassness. IMHO of course... Also, the need for the Sword of Badassness has been, IMO, Supercute!Hiro's downfall. Seems to me that his powers have muchly hinged upon his believing in them, and in himself, and he's staked a lot on attaining the sword. Agreed! and I still think that it's his Dumbo's Feather. Huh. Maybe Ando himself actually is part of his time-and-space-manipulating power... Nah. Was gonna say that he's always leaped either to or away from the near vicinity of Ando, but when he jumped from Charlie six weeks prior to her death to present day Japan while he and Ando were in the US, that was nowhere Ando-adjacent. Maybe the comfort and the relaxation having his buddy with him allow him to be able to tap into his powers more. Seeing Ando there as the first of the 754 guards on-scene did WONDERS for his mood, after all.
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Post by RAKSHA on Mar 7, 2007 1:02:58 GMT -5
At first, after my kids and I (keep in mind: 10yo and freaking 5yo) were screaming, at several points "Shut up and KILL him!", I thought...okay, Peter can grab Mohinder and go blinvisible and fly away. Later today, I thought...okay, wait...Peter can stop time and teleport if he realizes what he picked up from Hiro. And can I just say to whatever LJ person said Hiro is not badass: Hiro and his supercuteness IS totally badass. He's just suffering a temporary lack of confidence. So I hope this LJ person, should s/he should be lucky enough to HAVE a partner, is able to show a bit more sympathy to said partner should they ever suffer a similar confidence-induced lack of, you know, ability to perform. *runs off to read rest of thread* See, I'm not sure I'd see supercuteness as badass; to me, it's the total opposite of badass. Not that Hiro isn't completely made of awesome, because he is. But I'd categorize Future!Hiro as badass; present Hiro... not so much. I'm really enjoying Hiro's joyful fanboy-geek approach to heroism. It can't last forever, but it does contribute to Heroes' collective charm.
I'm wondering though, how long Ando will last on the show. Ando's death would go a long way toward tempering/toughening Hiro; but I don't want to see that happen.
So far, supercute Hiro has been something of a wild card in the game; he is also, through his future self, one of the prime movers in uniting the Heroes.
I wonder what Hiro and Claude would make of each other...
Is the episode in April the season finale?
GAIL
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Post by KMInfinity on Mar 7, 2007 13:30:57 GMT -5
*Another terrific episode. It’s hard for me to believe that back after episode 4 or 5 I was worried this show would be too superficial and comicbook, without enough texture and layer and character development and complexity, etc.
*I really really REALLY dislike the shapeshifter addition. Like Artemis, I hate not knowing if I’m being fooled. I don’t appreciate the drama or the conflict produced at all. For instance, obviously, the SECOND Mrs. Bennet was Candice-shifter. But was the first discussion, that lovely peek into their marriage where she says he told her in the shower…etc……was that Candice-shifter too? Are we positive?
*I knew in my bones Ando wasn’t gone! The relationship between Hiro and the others is a major pull for me in this series. Add in his interactions with Nathan and Peter…and others soon I hope….and I will be one pleased viewer.
*I’m very happy that neither Mohinder nor D.L. are naïve fools. I hate plots the depend on the stupidity of characters for drama and conflict. I also like how Heroes is really popping the pace with forward momentum such having us see rather quickly how The Mindwiper and Claire end up with The Higher Authority. (People really do need NAMES!)
*Nathan—don’t be tempted. Don’t don’t don’t! Wolfram and Hart Lindermann Enterprises will NOT allow itself to be used. You can’t work within the Belly of the Beast. Take the high ground even if it seems like a weak position from which to fight. (That’s what I learned from Angel…wonder if that’s what Angel learned from his time in W&H…Spike told him often enough, and for all his faults, Spike has always had a very well tuned moral compass. He may not have followed his compass…er, I digress.)
*I’m agreeing with Jeff and y'all – these chopped up seasons suck bigtime. The sprinkling of repeats sucked too, in the past, but knowing your show is gone for a long stretch is very frustrating. The TV industry really needs to figure out a way to work this. I’m assuming the problem is the “Sweeps” concept? They’re saving episodes for May? They need to get away from that paradigm. I’m about ready to just wait and buy full season DVDs after the fact, even if it means missing the immediacy and the community connection with others watching at the same time. Then again, if everyone did that, there would be no shows I suppose.
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Post by Lola m on Mar 9, 2007 13:07:06 GMT -5
Dude! DUDE!! **hopes very very very hard that Peter kicks some serious Sylar ass** Or was that a MALCOLM MCDOWELL?! !??! holy shit moment? Actually, that was for the Momma Petrelli moment. Well, the ep was pretty chock full of holy shit moments, wasn't it? ;D
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Post by Lola m on Mar 9, 2007 13:09:37 GMT -5
From the wonderful world of LJ:People who are Way More Badass Than We Thought:
1. Mrs. Bennet. Who knew she could be so pulled together and with it? 2. Ando. For the win! 3. Mama Petrelli. Okay, so she was always kind of a bitchy badass, but this just takes it to the next level. 4. Mohinder. Okay, you just redeemed yourself for being clueless before. Kind of. Too bad about getting stapled to the ceiling. Think he's dead? I bet not.
People Who are Not Quite As Badass As We Thought:
1. Nathan. Points for secret FBI opeations, but points off for wimping out at the end. Shoot him. Have you forgotten you can fly away? Although I guess that would require at least getting out of the building on your own. 2. Bennet. Okay, so he's still made of awesome, but his emotions are making him sloppy and he may now be what we call "fucked." 3. Linderman. So you're played by Malcolm McDowell. Vegetable-chopping is not very badass. And the totally-fake sounds of superfast chopping was really lame.
People Who Always Were, and Will Continue to Be, Badass:
1. Peter. Um...Sylar? Are you aware that this man has all your powers? And just absorbed the ones you've acquired since your last meeting? Good luck with opening his skull because I think he's about to go medieval on your ass. NO ONE cuts the Emo Bangs of Peter Petrelli and lives to tell about it! 2. DL. So not fooled. But how long has it been since he actually did anything? 3. Eric Roberts. The face that haunts my nightmares. 4. The Haitian Sensation. I could listen to him talk all day. 5. Claire. Invincible AND a pickpocket.
People Who Never Were, and Will Never Be, Badass:
1. Isaac. Shut up. Forever. 2. Hiro. You're adorable. But your cute-Japanese shtick is wearing really, really thin. Like, thin enough to read a newspaper through. DO SOMETHING! I'm only taking it on faith at this point that your badass future self even exists. 3. Jessiniki. You don't fool me. You're a thousand yards of boring dressed up like Ali Larter. 4. Matt. Get a clue. Please. Don't make me beg. By the way, I hate your wife.
Things That Are More Badass Than This Show:
1. Nothing.Heeee! Much eetahing, except I think both Hiro and Niki/Jessica are pretty badass. Loved the "NO ONE cuts the Emo Bangs of Peter Petrelli and lives to tell about it!" bit. ;D I sooooo want Peter to take down Sylar - permanently!!
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Post by Lola m on Mar 9, 2007 13:13:52 GMT -5
Yeah. And I also don't like how Peter seemed to NOT assert that it was NOT his fault. I can totally see Isaac's junkie personality contrasted with Peter in this. Isaac is still looking at everything through a "it hurts, I'll do anything to make it not hurt, look at anyone other than me as causing the hurt, hurt someone else if I must to make me not hurt" worldview.
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Post by artemis on Mar 9, 2007 19:57:23 GMT -5
Yeah. And I also don't like how Peter seemed to NOT assert that it was NOT his fault. I can totally see Isaac's junkie personality contrasted with Peter in this. Isaac is still looking at everything through a "it hurts, I'll do anything to make it not hurt, look at anyone other than me as causing the hurt, hurt someone else if I must to make me not hurt" worldview. yeah, it was a great insight into a major difference between peter and isaac's personalities, wasn't it? peter believed that everybody involved was partially responsible; isaac believed that everybody BUT HIM was partially responsible, and that the very person he was trying to kill was most responsible of all. like an earlier commenter said - isaac has replaced heroin with heroism. it seems that no matter what his addiction is, he wants some one/thing to dictate his life. to isaac, taking responsibility for anything is just not even in his thoughts as a possibility.
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