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Post by Sara on Apr 23, 2007 8:09:04 GMT -5
At long last, the wait is over!! While I have no doubt the episode title will end up referring to something else entirely, it's worth noting that when Sherlock Holmes indulged in cocaine it was in the form of a 7% solution. Obviously that's different from the titular amount, but close enough in spirit to cause my inner English major to sit up and take notice.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 23, 2007 20:10:51 GMT -5
Heroes is back!! **squees a lot** Oooh, a Linderman voice-over. Interesting! Well, if we didn't remember that morphing woman was mean, the whole gratuituous mock-Claire and saying she'd show him things that would make him tear his eyes out reminded us. Dueling mind games between HRG and the Paper Co. Czar. HTG really doesn't know where Claire is. And I think he's right that they won't kill him right off. Then again, I don't doubt they do intend to kill him eventually. "That's how we do it here. We follow orders." Well. Just go ahead and admit your organization is kinda nazi-like. Linderman "protects" the art . . . protects it from everyone else, but you get to look at it, don't you? "I'll be remembered as a humanitarian." Wants to heal/save the world. Hmmmmm. Ooooooooooooh! **squees again** Linderman has a power! And it's not at all one that you would think of, one you'd think would have helped him rise to the top of a criminal organization. Healing! Coolio!
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Post by Lola m on Apr 23, 2007 20:32:37 GMT -5
They have a lot of roaches here at Primatech. I'd expect that where they actually store the paper, 'cuz, yeah, they eat the paper dust. But in their concrete bunker things? Maybe the roaches are actually bugs! (Um, like listening device things . . . . um . . . . ok it wasn't that good of a joke . . ) Heh. I like Nathan's comment about Linderman saving the world. "Lot's of people seem to be saying that these days." ;D What if NY blowing up was a good thing . . . OK, so Linderman got together with a bunch of people with powers before, and they were going to do all sorts of happy shiney stuff. And the Other people (it's always those darn Others!) lost their way and started using their powers for personal gain and not to make the happy shiney new world. (Hmmmm. Primatech people, I'll bet.) But Linderman "learned healing one person at a time was just not enough". Said in a rather . . . scary way. Ah. So, he wants to nuke those unimportant .07 percent of the population (otherwise known as half of NY) because it would be a "catalyst for good". Yeah. Heard that one before, buddy. OMG. And "it's your destiny, Nathan, to be the leader to use this tragedy to rally the city, the nation, the world". Nathan brings up the important (to him) point that his brother is the blow up guy and Linderman's all "we all have a role to play". Replay of Peter at Mohinder's place. Eeeeep! I don't want to watch this again! Oooo, go, Peter! Oh, crap, Peter!! Ooooh, go go go Mohinder!!! Pull out the glass, maybe he'll heal like Claire did!! **falls over, exhausted**
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Post by Lola m on Apr 23, 2007 20:56:03 GMT -5
Claire learns Peter is her brother (no incest for you, missy!) and that Grandma and Grandpa kept the kid in the dark about her existance. They "made arrangements". Hmmmmm. So, the elder Petrelli's are the bridge between the Primatech people and Linderman's people? Do they come from a time when they were one group, before they split? Granny Petrelli tells Claire she has "no idea" about just what's she's facing (and I think she's a bit right, but not entirely right and she's not gonna stop Claire if she wants to do something.) "If you choose to come back and join this madness, like I once did." Interesting. I have the same question that Claire asked, sort of. Does Granny P have a power? She didn't answer. Awwwww. Sylar's computer list go bye bye? What a pity. ;D Crap. But he has Isaac's address now. Heee! Cute little messenger guy, so interested in the comic. Has to promise not to spill any spoilers. Oh, damn. Giving away his sketchbook. 'Cuz he knows he's gonna be killed. Jessica trying to justify what she's been doing, that it's all "for Micah". But hubby calls her on it. "Everywhere you go, people die." Ooh, ouch! Says she's "turned into your old man". Ouchie, ouch, ouch! She didn't like that one bit. But he has a very good point. When does protecting warp into actively bringing danger closer. And when do you find you are turning your power on him? A moment of anger, like any parent might have toward their child, could turn deadly if you have superpowers and not a lot of control over them. And then you'd be just like daddy. HRG's clever escape plan continues, rather well, actually. Hmmmm. Are the thoughts getting hard for Matt to read the farther he moves from HRG's location? Ah. Told him to pick up the nuke guy. Mohinder brought Peter to his mom's house. Hmmmm. I still don't believe he's really really dead. I mean, Claire was all dead with a glass shard in her head, but then they took it out and she was all better.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 23, 2007 21:10:51 GMT -5
Linderman needs a favor from Jessica. "I need to borrow your Micah, briefly." Um. Yeah. Don't think she's gonna go for that idea so easy. Hmmmm. Linderman's plan is "unraveling". So, he knows about Peter and Sylar? Heee! Love how HRG walks them through doing an EMP. (Just like Lost. ;D ) Matt is right about taking HRG with them, being the one person that can possibly take down the Primatech people. And also about how nuke guy really does want to live, for all he keeps saying the opposite. And so they make it to HRG's cell. So far, so good! Nathan at the house, sees Peter. "He wasn't supposed to die this way." What, you've already decided the nuke thing is a done deal, Nate? Well, I'll bet that Peter really isn't dead, so you may be right. "We hide it." ?! Damn. She really will do anything to protect her family, won't she? She's got one son left, so do anything to get him ahead. Ah, there goes Claire! Yes, Claire. Remember when you had a giant piece of stabby thing in your head? Just . . . pull . . . it . . . out. And, yep. He's back! "You saved my life." "Guess we're even now."
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Post by Karen on Apr 23, 2007 21:20:09 GMT -5
.07% - such a small sacrifice to make to give the world hope, unless you happen to be one of the .07%.
Yoiks!
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Post by jeff on Apr 23, 2007 21:34:55 GMT -5
Claire learns Peter is her brother (no incest for you, missy!) and that Grandma and Grandpa kept the kid in the dark about her existance. They "made arrangements". Hmmmmm. So, the elder Petrelli's are the bridge between the Primatech people and Linderman's people? Do they come from a time when they were one group, before they split? Granny Petrelli tells Claire she has "no idea" about just what's she's facing (and I think she's a bit right, but not entirely right and she's not gonna stop Claire if she wants to do something.) "If you choose to come back and join this madness, like I once did." Interesting. I have the same question that Claire asked, sort of. Does Granny P have a power? She didn't answer. Awwwww. Sylar's computer list go bye bye? What a pity. ;D Crap. But he has Isaac's address now. Heee! Cute little messenger guy, so interested in the comic. Has to promise not to spill any spoilers. Oh, damn. Giving away his sketchbook. 'Cuz he knows he's gonna be killed. Jessica trying to justify what she's been doing, that it's all "for Micah". But hubby calls her on it. "Everywhere you go, people die." Ooh, ouch! Says she's "turned into your old man". Ouchie, ouch, ouch! She didn't like that one bit. But he has a very good point. When does protecting warp into actively bringing danger closer. And when do you find you are turning your power on him? A moment of anger, like any parent might have toward their child, could turn deadly if you have superpowers and not a lot of control over them. And then you'd be just like daddy. HRG's clever escape plan continues, rather well, actually. Hmmmm. Are the thoughts getting hard for Matt to read the farther he moves from HRG's location? Ah. Told him to pick up the nuke guy. Mohinder brought Peter to his mom's house. Hmmmm. I still don't believe he's really really dead. I mean, Claire was all dead with a glass shard in her head, but then they took it out and she was all better. I think Granny P has a power as well, telling Claire she had to make the same decision that Claire needs to make. she knew about the boys powers. Linderman also said he knew others that had powers besides himself. Granny P arranged Claire to be watched by HRG. And also Hiro's dad was involved in that as well. I am guessing this is a hereditary trait. and Granny P and Hiro's dad also have a power. just a thought.
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Post by RAKSHA on Apr 23, 2007 21:38:00 GMT -5
Lindermann can heal (I missed the first ten minutes) - could he be related to Claire?
So Nathan has gone over to the Dark Side of the Force. At least he hasn't betrayed Claire - yet.
Lindermann's running the Primatechies? He's got his fingers in lots of pies! And unfortunately, he's got Micah. I don't think Niki/Jessica will like that.
Yay; Mohinder's survived! Peter's dead?
Claire revives Peter? I thought that would happen. Joy and yummies!
The Three Musketeers on the road! Bets that HRG will contact Invisible Man in NYC?
So glad the show is back!!!
GAIL
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Post by jeff on Apr 23, 2007 21:43:38 GMT -5
future Hiro meeting Past Hiro. this should be interesting. and future Hiro has been doing his work with the timeline thing.
wow, they really killing off Isaac? Or will Hiro go back and save him? I hope they dont get too confusing with the time travel thing. Cause I am starting to agree with Ando. "I'm confused."
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Post by Lola m on Apr 23, 2007 21:46:08 GMT -5
Heee! "Put it underneath your pillow." Well, heee and also urgle. So, if you put the weapon that caused your death under your pillow, do you dream of your murderer? Interesting. Nathan thinks we are what people expect. Which is kinda true, but also not . . . "I can regenerate." "No matter what?" Oh, crap. Now Nathan thinks that Peter can survive the explosion, so therefore it's OK if NY goes boom??! And Peter walks right into it. "Maybe if Claire's not here, maybe I don't blow up." Well, crappity crap. I hope Nathan doesn't try to kill her. HRG wants them to take out the tracking system that is . . . wait for it . . . in NY. Of course. So, maybe nuke guy is the one that goes boom, not Peter. Huh. HRG didn't know about Linderman? And do we know for sure Linderman is still running Primatech? 'Cuz he was sounding like a split happened. But maybe . . . maybe the split wasn't between him and the Primatech people (though they sound like dead ringers for the people that started using their power for personal gain - heck, Linderman sounds like he went for personal gain too!). Was the split between Primatech and . . . . invisible man and others like him? Was Granny P one who split from Primatech? But she helped HRG get Claire . . . Oh, I'm like Ando now! I'm so confused!!! Jessica is taking Micah to Linderman now? WTF? Why the change of heart? Now we get the "how would you like to save the world today" line. But . . . ohhhhhhhh. Duh! Not Jessica. It's mighty morphing meany. Oh, Mohinder. Mohinder, Mohinder, Mohinder. You called the Primatech people? Well, at least you're making them think Peter is dead, so perhaps that's one good thing, at least for a bit. Now Isaac. This is not gonna be fun. "You're late." (Oooh, that surprised Sylar for a bit there.) "I guess you know why I'm here." "You're the one who's going to kill me." "That's true. This is usually the part when people start screaming." "I tried fighting the future. It's too big for me." Huh. Very interesting. "They stop you. You die. You can't fight the future." So . . . the future is the key. And Hiro is in the future . . . Well. That was an icky and yet noble moment for Isaac. I hope he's right about them beating Sylar. About that happening no matter what.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 23, 2007 21:47:12 GMT -5
.07% - such a small sacrifice to make to give the world hope, unless you happen to be one of the .07%. Yoiks! Yeah! And who really believes that massive destruction will really make the world "get better"?
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Post by Lola m on Apr 23, 2007 21:53:03 GMT -5
Nathan looking at the shard, looking at himself in power . . . Creepy. Did anyone else keep expecting him to stab Claire with the glass all during their conversation? When Nathan was all "I have a chance to do some big, important things" and so on? I guess Paris is better than dying . . . But I still hope Claire finds a way to help NY not blow up. Hiro and Ando in the Future! Isaac's comic sheets that he just sent off. "I didn't stop it". "I don't like the future." "I'm confused." ;D ;D ;D He thinks Isaac might still be alive . . . goes to his place? Damn, it looks like Sylar's lair . . . . A timeline. Telling him where it went wrong? Showing him when in time to go back to and what to do there? Future!Hiro - yay!!!!!!! Oh, wow. An ep that takes place in the future? One possible future? The wrong, bad, future? Did Isaac paint multiple time lines? Going forward into one future and then back to where they change it and then forward again? Is that how he knows they are going to kill Sylar and win?
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Post by Lola m on Apr 23, 2007 21:53:56 GMT -5
Claire learns Peter is her brother (no incest for you, missy!) and that Grandma and Grandpa kept the kid in the dark about her existance. They "made arrangements". Hmmmmm. So, the elder Petrelli's are the bridge between the Primatech people and Linderman's people? Do they come from a time when they were one group, before they split? Granny Petrelli tells Claire she has "no idea" about just what's she's facing (and I think she's a bit right, but not entirely right and she's not gonna stop Claire if she wants to do something.) "If you choose to come back and join this madness, like I once did." Interesting. I have the same question that Claire asked, sort of. Does Granny P have a power? She didn't answer. Awwwww. Sylar's computer list go bye bye? What a pity. ;D Crap. But he has Isaac's address now. Heee! Cute little messenger guy, so interested in the comic. Has to promise not to spill any spoilers. Oh, damn. Giving away his sketchbook. 'Cuz he knows he's gonna be killed. Jessica trying to justify what she's been doing, that it's all "for Micah". But hubby calls her on it. "Everywhere you go, people die." Ooh, ouch! Says she's "turned into your old man". Ouchie, ouch, ouch! She didn't like that one bit. But he has a very good point. When does protecting warp into actively bringing danger closer. And when do you find you are turning your power on him? A moment of anger, like any parent might have toward their child, could turn deadly if you have superpowers and not a lot of control over them. And then you'd be just like daddy. HRG's clever escape plan continues, rather well, actually. Hmmmm. Are the thoughts getting hard for Matt to read the farther he moves from HRG's location? Ah. Told him to pick up the nuke guy. Mohinder brought Peter to his mom's house. Hmmmm. I still don't believe he's really really dead. I mean, Claire was all dead with a glass shard in her head, but then they took it out and she was all better. I think Granny P has a power as well, telling Claire she had to make the same decision that Claire needs to make. she knew about the boys powers. Linderman also said he knew others that had powers besides himself. Granny P arranged Claire to be watched by HRG. And also Hiro's dad was involved in that as well. I am guessing this is a hereditary trait. and Granny P and Hiro's dad also have a power. just a thought. **nods** I think Granny P has some kind of power too. She's just keeping it well hidden.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 23, 2007 21:57:30 GMT -5
Lindermann can heal (I missed the first ten minutes) - could he be related to Claire?I was wondering that too! I want to get all the different relationships laid out for me. See if we can find connections between the powers that parents have and their children. And now I'm just waiting for him to really betray or hurt her. Yeah, I really really think that Linderman doesn't quite know how bad it is to have Niki!Jessica mad at him. Oh, I very very very much hope so! [/color][/quote] Yay! Much happiness over the return of my Heroes!
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Post by Lola m on Apr 23, 2007 22:00:23 GMT -5
future Hiro meeting Past Hiro. this should be interesting. and future Hiro has been doing his work with the timeline thing. Hiro and Ando and Hiro. It's a fabulous Hiro sandwich! I tend to think Isaac is really dead-dead. I mean, he was so sure that he was meant to die, to die a hero because he'd seen how they'll win in the future. But at the same time . . . . maybe he saw that he died but then also didn't die?
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