|
|
Post by William the Bloody on Jun 14, 2003 2:14:56 GMT -5
Edit by Rae: Rob reported that the Triangles posts had gone into the Truths thread. To fix the problem I reposted Patti's original Triangles post here and changed the name of the thread. So, the title of each post was changed to reflect the name change. This is noted on each post.
AUTHORS' NOTES ON CHAPTER 12 MOVED FROM PAGE 8 OF MAIN BOARD TO THIS FORUM
Author's notes for Triangles..post Chapter 12
« Thread started on: Jun 1st, 2003, 2:17pm »
I realize that it's really pretentious for me to post author's notes for one of my little stories, but I think I owe it to the people who are nice enough to read them to clarify a few things.
Angel makes his appearance at the close of Chapter 12. I am going heavily into an alternate universe with he and his crew, and the balance of the story won't make a lick of sense unless I explain it.
Season 4 of Angel closed with Connor gone, with erased memories.
What a wonderful idea. I'll go a step further. In my world Connor never existed. Ever. Not even to Angel. More importantly, Cordy was never impregnated by any spawn of Angel's. In my universe Angel and Cordy aren't exactly in a relationship, but there are strong feelings between them and they're on the edge of taking that next step. I'm not certain I'm going to develop that very much, but that's how I view it for the sake of the story.
I retained the Season 4 development of cool, rugged Wesley with his James Bond gadgets. I liked that a lot, so I kept it. I left Gunn and Fred at home in LA, but we just might get a cameo appearance from one of them in a key moment. We'll see.
Anyway, thanks to those who come read this. Your indulgence is deeply appreciated.
« Last Edit: Jun 9th, 2003, 7:21pm by Rae »
|
|
|
|
Post by Kerrie on Jun 18, 2003 5:55:29 GMT -5
Can I say first up how much I enjoyed the fact that Vlad's (or should I say William's) post had been viewed8 times?!  (I think the apropriate lyrics go "And I still haven't found what I'm looking for . ..") I have just finished chapter 19 of Truths. Interestingly it touches on the comparison between evil vampires and evil people such as Hitler and Lennin, which we have been discussing in part 11. I don't know that it is possible to form any sort of resolution to the question of what difference a soul makes when there are such evil 'humans' about. At the risk of trivialising the question, maybe Buffy would suggest that the 'evil men' are not men, but simply vampires or some other evil demon-form. (I think she suggested this about Rasputin, but I don't know which episode.) The ddrunken conversation between Spike and Angel had it's appeal. I particularly liked the ending. It was a great shift in tone after a very relaxing (?) kind of pace until then. The voices of the characters are still good. So good work and thanks, Rob. Edit by Rae: Changed the subject line to reflect the name change of this thread. See explanation in Vlad's post for more information. |
|
|
|
Post by SpringSummers on Jun 18, 2003 13:39:21 GMT -5
Rob - I enjoyed your latest effort. I see you threw some naked Spike in there (good work!). Some very funny stuff, as always . . . but as far as Angel and Spike go, where was the oil??  Edit by Rae: Changed the subject line to reflect the name change of this thread. See explanation in Vlad's post for more information. |
|
|
|
Post by Rob on Jun 19, 2003 1:03:30 GMT -5
Rob - I enjoyed your latest effort. I see you threw some naked Spike in there (good work!). Some very funny stuff, as always . . . but as far as Angel and Spike go, where was the oil?? I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter, Spring. I decided to leave the oil out of the story. After a weak moment, Buffy found the strength to control her base urges. Any thoughts as to retaliation from Buffy to Willow? The redhead has some Slayer Payback coming to her. Edit by Rae: Changed the subject line to reflect the name change of this thread. See explanation in Vlad's post for more information. |
|
|
|
Post by Rob on Jun 19, 2003 1:06:46 GMT -5
Can I say first up how much I enjoyed the fact that Vlad's (or should I say William's) post had been viewed8 times?! (I think the apropriate lyrics go "And I still haven't found what I'm looking for . ..") I have just finished chapter 19 of Truths. Interestingly it touches on the comparison between evil vampires and evil people such as Hitler and Lennin, which we have been discussing in part 11. I don't know that it is possible to form any sort of resolution to the question of what difference a soul makes when there are such evil 'humans' about. At the risk of trivialising the question, maybe Buffy would suggest that the 'evil men' are not men, but simply vampires or some other evil demon-form. (I think she suggested this about Rasputin, but I don't know which episode.) The ddrunken conversation between Spike and Angel had it's appeal. I particularly liked the ending. It was a great shift in tone after a very relaxing (?) kind of pace until then. The voices of the characters are still good. So good work and thanks, Rob. Kerrie, I think people were coming to say something, but saw no one else around and left. You had the courage to break the ice. Good on you. Edit by Rae: Changed the subject line to reflect the name change of this thread. See explanation in Vlad's post for more information. |
|
|
|
Post by SpringSummers on Jun 19, 2003 6:55:57 GMT -5
I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter, Spring. I decided to leave the oil out of the story. After a weak moment, Buffy found the strength to control her base urges. Any thoughts as to retaliation from Buffy to Willow? The redhead has some Slayer Payback coming to her. I will think on that. Maybe it should have something to do with Xander. Edit by Rae: Changed the subject line to reflect the name change of this thread. See explanation in Vlad's post for more information. |
|
|
|
Post by raenstorm on Jun 22, 2003 8:58:52 GMT -5
Note from Rae: Trying to fix a snafu and had to manually move some posts... This post was originally posted by Patti:I recently finished chapters 16 and 17 of Triangles. Anyone want to speculate with me on the future adventures of our pals at DW?
|
|
|
|
Post by Mary on Jun 23, 2003 6:03:00 GMT -5
Hey Rob, I told you I was planning to print off your entire saga and take it with me to read while I was out of town, and I'm glad I got the chance to do just that. I also got the chance to read the entire story straight thru in one sitting, which I've always thought gets me into the flow of a story better. You had "WARNED" me that you were working thru some issues in the first part ;D, and I'm glad you took the opportunity to say some of the things you wanted to say about and for Xander. I think that's one of the great things about fanfiction - that it gives writers the chance to explore issues the show either ignores, doesn't think we care about, or doesn't have time to do onscreen. Most of the fics I read are very Spike-centric, and I've seen literally dozens of writers (I would say hundreds but that tends to make me sound like I do nothing *but* read fanfic, and that's not *cough* entirely true, so...) do for Spike the same types of things you did for Xander - explore his history a little (or a lot), give reason and meaning to his actions, and behaviors, etc. I really enjoyed how you explored Xander's mind, and gave him the chance to get some things off his chest. You've developed a wonderful plot in the continuations. The mental connection between Xander and Buffy, the evil CoW (and really, haven't we always known they were, at heart, Big Bads?), the return of Faith, and her reintegration in the group. By the way, I find your Faith voice particularly good - you've really captured her. (Loved the scene where she's, um, 'displaying her charms' and seeking reassurance that Xander wouldn't find Cordelia more attractive.) The torture scenes were gruesome and effective. I also liked the glimpses of Giles' past that you've worked into the story, particularly since he's no longer around.  It's interesting to see that time in his life when he's just growing out of Ripper. I like the strength you've given Dawn, and I'm wondering if I need to be concerned about Willow's increased powers. I'm just up to the 'We're going to Disney World" (LOL)part, and I think you've posted a few more chapters, so now I have to catch up. One thing I do have to say - Argh! How do you and Nan do it? Write so quickly? Since this story includes allusions to season 7, I'm assuming you started it not all that long ago, and you've accomplished so much! I feel like the slowest writer in the world, and you two are making me completely jealous!! Great job, Rob. Well written, interesting and complex plot, and you're doing a wonderful job of making the whole gang a vital part of the story. I'm looking forward to more... Mary |
|
|
|
Post by RustyGoode on Jun 23, 2003 14:20:53 GMT -5
Just finished the Chapters 18 & 19. The Spike and Angel interactions were just wonderful, and alot less snarky than I would have expected. I did miss the oil, but that would have only worked if Buffy had stayed. I'm not sure we're ready for that scene on the old S3 yet.
I'm hoping maybe they'll wake up in bed naked together and not remember the end of the evening. That should be worth a few points on the agast-o-meter.
|
|
|
|
Post by Rob on Jun 23, 2003 18:38:14 GMT -5
Hey Rob, I told you I was planning to print off your entire saga and take it with me to read while I was out of town, and I'm glad I got the chance to do just that. I also got the chance to read the entire story straight thru in one sitting, which I've always thought gets me into the flow of a story better. You had "WARNED" me that you were working thru some issues in the first part ;D, and I'm glad you took the opportunity to say some of the things you wanted to say about and for Xander. I think that's one of the great things about fanfiction - that it gives writers the chance to explore issues the show either ignores, doesn't think we care about, or doesn't have time to do onscreen. Most of the fics I read are very Spike-centric, and I've seen literally dozens of writers (I would say hundreds but that tends to make me sound like I do nothing *but* read fanfic, and that's not *cough* entirely true, so...) do for Spike the same types of things you did for Xander - explore his history a little (or a lot), give reason and meaning to his actions, and behaviors, etc. I really enjoyed how you explored Xander's mind, and gave him the chance to get some things off his chest. You've developed a wonderful plot in the continuations. The mental connection between Xander and Buffy, the evil CoW (and really, haven't we always known they were, at heart, Big Bads?), the return of Faith, and her reintegration in the group. By the way, I find your Faith voice particularly good - you've really captured her. (Loved the scene where she's, um, 'displaying her charms' and seeking reassurance that Xander wouldn't find Cordelia more attractive.) The torture scenes were gruesome and effective. I also liked the glimpses of Giles' past that you've worked into the story, particularly since he's no longer around. It's interesting to see that time in his life when he's just growing out of Ripper. I like the strength you've given Dawn, and I'm wondering if I need to be concerned about Willow's increased powers. I'm just up to the 'We're going to Disney World" (LOL)part, and I think you've posted a few more chapters, so now I have to catch up. One thing I do have to say - Argh! How do you and Nan do it? Write so quickly? Since this story includes allusions to season 7, I'm assuming you started it not all that long ago, and you've accomplished so much! I feel like the slowest writer in the world, and you two are making me completely jealous!! Great job, Rob. Well written, interesting and complex plot, and you're doing a wonderful job of making the whole gang a vital part of the story. I'm looking forward to more... Mary Mary, it's an honor to hear such nice things coming from someone who writes as well as you do. I'm going to send my feelings about "Journeys" to you as soon as I can come up with enough adjectives to describe how good it is. I appreciate your patience in reading the first one. It's a shame that people have to work their way through my first ever piece of writing to get to stuff that's halfway decent....but a few things were established in that first one that created my own little universe. It's an unfortunately necessary evil. Plus, to give myself a break, there are a few good things in that first one. I much prefer a snarky relationship between Willow and Faith. When one thinks about it, no one hated Faith more than Willow. In Season Seven they got along just fine...ho hum, let's forget the past. It makes a lot more sense to have them creep slowly toward mutual understanding. As far as the speed of my writing goes, I can only offer one conclusion: I have no life. ;D Ok, maybe that's a bit of a stretch. I have a job that has frequent down periods in a private, enclosed space. I do a good bit of writing there and email to myself here at home, where I tack on a few things and hopefully weed out the things that stink. At least half of "Triangles" has been written in my little office...which means I can honestly say that I am being paid to write fanfic. Go ME!!!  As I said, thanks so much for the nice review. I hope I can do a good job closing this out without messing up my own plot. |
|
|
|
Post by Rob on Jun 23, 2003 18:43:55 GMT -5
Just finished the Chapters 18 & 19. The Spike and Angel interactions were just wonderful, and alot less snarky than I would have expected. I did miss the oil, but that would have only worked if Buffy had stayed. I'm not sure we're ready for that scene on the old S3 yet. I'm hoping maybe they'll wake up in bed naked together and not remember the end of the evening. That should be worth a few points on the agast-o-meter. I'm glad you liked my effort at naughty screwball comedy. Chapter 20 has a bit more of that sort of nonsense, but then it's time to get a bit more serious. I can only screw around so much before having to deliver a few of those blasted action sequences. |
|
|
|
Post by Nickim on Jun 23, 2003 19:13:33 GMT -5
Rob,
I really enjoyed The Chronicle of Truth--loved the chapter titles.
I'm trying to finish some other fanfic before I start Triangles, it just gets too confusing to read too many stories at once!
|
|
|
|
Post by Rob on Jun 23, 2003 20:54:22 GMT -5
Rob, I really enjoyed The Chronicle of Truth--loved the chapter titles. I'm trying to finish some other fanfic before I start Triangles, it just gets too confusing to read too many stories at once! Thanks, Nicki. It's always great to hear feedback. About those chapter titles....I'd love to take credit for them, but alas....I cannot. Those belong to a certain vamp who posts my work on the site. In a sense, I guess it could be said that Vlad is my co-author. I hope he reads this post...he'll be delighted to hear that people like his little creations. I've often said this, but I cannot say it enough. Without Vlad, there are no stories. He was incredibly supportive from the beginning, and gave me the confidence to keep writing. So thanks, Nicki, for giving the ole' technopagan an unintentional shout out. He deserves it. |
|
|
|
Post by Kerrie on Jun 24, 2003 6:35:51 GMT -5
I'm glad you liked my effort at naughty screwball comedy. Chapter 20 has a bit more of that sort of nonsense, but then it's time to get a bit more serious. I can only screw around so much before having to deliver a few of those blasted action sequences. I liked the 'blasted action' sequences better. Is Buffy getting into bed with Xander and Faith, be it only platonically, supposed to be metaphorical. The action coupled with Xander and Buffy's 'connection' points the way for serious relationship issues between Xander and Faith.  |
|
|
|
Post by Rob on Jun 24, 2003 18:09:16 GMT -5
I liked the 'blasted action' sequences better. Is Buffy getting into bed with Xander and Faith, be it only platonically, supposed to be metaphorical. The action coupled with Xander and Buffy's 'connection' points the way for serious relationship issues between Xander and Faith. Absolutely not. Buffy sleeping with Xander and Faith was meant to be sweet more than anything else....and to demonstrate how much they trust one another. No serious underpinnings at all were intended. In my younger days, I have slept in the same bed with platonic female friends. It wasn't an issue at all. Buffy wouldn't have even considered doing it if she thought there would be a serious problem....and she is clearly correct. It was just meant to set up a cute and cuddly moment at the beginning of Chapter 20...nothing more. In my story, Buffy and Faith's competitive issues are long gone...outside of the occasional playful banter of who the better fighter is, and that's natural for people of their aggressive personalities. They're friends first, however...and it will remain that way for the balance of this installment. There's a ton of action coming soon, Kerrie. Less silly stuff is on the way. I promise.  |
|
(I think the apropriate lyrics go "And I still haven't found what I'm looking for . ..")
It's interesting to see that time in his life when he's just growing out of Ripper. I like the strength you've given Dawn, and I'm wondering if I need to be concerned about Willow's increased powers.
