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Post by Karen on Nov 1, 2003 15:54:51 GMT -5
I can understand Joyce's reaction when she first found out. As you say it can be hard to be reasonable when you have a shock. Later Joyce apologised for her reaction and admitted that she makes mistakes. Therefore, I can excuse that component. But Joyce assessing Buffy's role and her performance and saying that she did not think Buffy's job was worthwhile and that Buffy wasn't doing it in the best way wirthout giving her any advice how to do it was just awful. I can't remember Giles ever telling Buffy that her slaying was fruitless because evil keeps coming. I better stop typing. Every time I think about Joyce and her words to Buffy I feel angry. How could she have said that to a 17 year old who hates her calling? Because she was afraid. I agree she was wrong. It's like telling you child who is very talented in the arts to concentrate on schoolwork because you can't make a living as an artist, musician, etc. Joyce didn't understand Buffy's calling - or maybe she didn't want to understand it. No wonder Buffy ultimately felt so alone - words like those Joyce said hurt a person terribly. You may forgive, but it's hard to forget - especially when it comes from your parents.
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Post by Kerrie on Nov 1, 2003 16:05:40 GMT -5
Because she was afraid. I agree she was wrong. It's like telling you child who is very talented in the arts to concentrate on schoolwork because you can't make a living as an artist, musician, etc. Joyce didn't understand Buffy's calling - or maybe she didn't want to understand it. No wonder Buffy ultimately felt so alone - words like those Joyce said hurt a person terribly. You may forgive, but it's hard to forget - especially when it comes from your parents. Especially as Joyce never did apologise for them that I can recollect.
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Post by Sue on Nov 1, 2003 16:46:09 GMT -5
Can we start making fun of you now? Or has the penalty for spoilers been removed? Hey Kerrie, Yeah, I thought about that being a spoiler...but I decided to let one of you affected persons call her on it. It is so very hard to stay aware of what is forbidden information, especially if you are spoiled yourself (and, of course, having simply watched an episode doesn't count as being spoiled for us. ) It can be hard to imagine that knowing a name was used is a spoiler--but, IMO, any, any information which comes out of or refers to any person or scene from season 5 needs to be kept out of this thread. I'm sure makd will apologize when she realizes the error. sue
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Post by Karen on Nov 1, 2003 17:12:39 GMT -5
Thought I'd share this *so true* joke with you all.
A Chicagoan dies and is sent to Hell. He had been a horrible man his entire life. The devil puts him to work breaking up rocks with a sledgehammer. To make it worse he cranks up the temperature and the humidity. After a couple of days, the devil checks in on his victim to see if he is suffering adequately. The devil is aghast as the Chicagoan is happily swinging his hammer and whistling a happy tune.
The devil walks up to him and says, "I don't understand this. I've turned the heat way up, it's humid, you're crushing rocks; why are you so happy?"
The Chicagoan, with a big smile, looks at the devil and replies, "This is great! It reminds me of August in Chicago. Hot, humid, a good place to work. It reminds me of home. This is fantastic!"
The devil, extremely perplexed, walks away to ponder the Chicagoan's remarks. Then he decides to drop the temperature, send down a driving rain and torrential wind.
Soon, hell is a wet, muddy mess. Walking in mud up to his knees with dust blowing into his eyes, the Chicagoan is happily slogging through the mud pushing a wheelbarrow full of crushed rocks.
Again, the devil asks how he can be happy in such conditions. The Chicagoan replies, "This is great! Just like April in Chicago. It reminds me of working out in the yard with spring planting!"
The devil is now completely baffled and determined to make the Chicagoan suffer. He makes the temperature plummet. Suddenly Hell is blanketed in snow and ice.
Confident that this will surely make the Chicagoan unhappy, the devil checks in on the Chicagoan. He is again aghast at what he sees.
The Chicagoan is dancing, singing, and twirling his sledgehammer as he cavorts in glee. "How can you be so happy? Don't you know its 40 below zero!?" screams the devil.
Jumping up and down the Chicagoan throws a snowball at the devil and yells, "Hell's frozen over!! This means the Cubs won the world series!
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Post by Sue on Nov 2, 2003 9:07:05 GMT -5
There is a bit of a discussion going on on the fanfic thread. The title says "recommendations" but the last few pages have mainly been a discussion as to whether the B/S "era" of fanfic will continue on or fade away.
You might find it interesting.
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Post by Kerrie on Nov 2, 2003 11:54:57 GMT -5
Hey Kerrie, Yeah, I thought about that being a spoiler...but I decided to let one of you affected persons call her on it. It is so very hard to stay aware of what is forbidden information, especially if you are spoiled yourself (and, of course, having simply watched an episode doesn't count as being spoiled for us. ) It can be hard to imagine that knowing a name was used is a spoiler--but, IMO, any, any information which comes out of or refers to any person or scene from season 5 needs to be kept out of this thread. I'm sure makd will apologize when she realizes the error. sue People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. My husband has always been spoiler-free and does not like my spoiler-whore status of previous seasons. To discourage me from my spoiler-whore ways he will not let me spoil him in any way, shape or form about up-coming episodes. I can't tell you the spoilers I've accidentally let fall about this season (I get inadvertantly spoiled by going on the main thread, looking at pictures, avatars and signatures), but last season I was discussing the CoW with him (i.e. whether Spike and the Scoobies would take over the role), knowing as I did that they went Kaboom and he did not. Needless to say, I was barely able to cover my error. So I understand perfectly about letting things slip. At the end of the day any behind-hand S'Cubie risks being spoilt and will only be safe if they don't visit American Joss-verse boards. It is not big deal. The benefits out-weigh the risks.
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Post by Kerrie on Nov 2, 2003 12:20:52 GMT -5
Caitie woke me up at 1.30, it is now 3.30. Hopefully I will be able to go to bed and go to sleep without worrying about my school-work. I hate this time of the semester! Lee, when you think about returning to study remember the end-of-semester stress attacks! Worrying about my own work is bad enough, but I am doing some group work - I HATE group-work. The meglomaniac in me can't stand having to have other people determine my mark. Now, would it be polite of me to contact my other group member just to verify whether they understood the topic and what the lecturer is implicitly asking us to do? They seem to have missed the clues . . . or maybe they just aren't interested in getting the same mark as I want. Ahh, decisions decisions.
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Post by Sue on Nov 2, 2003 12:33:03 GMT -5
Kerrie,
Is there much being said in Australia re the U.S. ordination of an openly gay Episcopal priest today.
Walked out of church this morning to find news cameras literally 3 feet out the door, interviewing parishioners.
We are what would be called a "conservative Biblical" Epsicopal church--a minority in North America--but in sync with over 70 million Episcopalians worldwide--the majority in Africa.
So, the media was looking for soundbites.
Just wondered what the international coverage is like.
But, gotta run right now. Later.
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Post by makd on Nov 2, 2003 20:37:18 GMT -5
Can we start making fun of you now? Or has the penalty for spoilers been removed? oopsie. grrr. arghhh. I am SO very sorry! Damn, it is just so very easy to slip up! Ah, gee...You know, I KNEW it was a mistake for me to drift over to this thread...I just didn't want to be rude; I wanted to see how Kerrie was doing, and maybe "chat". So, of course, I let out a spoiler... Sorry, Kerrie; I apologize for this, and, really, the only way for me to avoid this in the future is to just keep away from this thread. ah, jeesh. I feel terrible. I'm gonna go eat some chocolate and move over to the main board.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Nov 2, 2003 21:58:14 GMT -5
oopsie. grrr. arghhh. I am SO very sorry! Damn, it is just so very easy to slip up! Ah, gee...You know, I KNEW it was a mistake for me to drift over to this thread...I just didn't want to be rude; I wanted to see how Kerrie was doing, and maybe "chat". So, of course, I let out a spoiler... Sorry, Kerrie; I apologize for this, and, really, the only way for me to avoid this in the future is to just keep away from this thread. ah, jeesh. I feel terrible. I'm gonna go eat some chocolate and move over to the main board. Makd, Kerrie, I removed the spoiler. I hope that was ok. Makd, we all do it.... While on my nightly patrol er....checking, I noticed this thread is nearing 500. The board is quiet right now, so it seems a good time to lock this thread and start a new one ...so that's what I'm doing....right now.
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