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House
Sept 25, 2009 11:05:49 GMT -5
Post by KMInfinity on Sept 25, 2009 11:05:49 GMT -5
I think I agree more with Anne and Sue. While there were some great moments and some great material, especially, as noted. House's inner struggles and AB's role, I felt there were too many *convenient* moments - the writing and plotting felt very manipulative.
And I don't care how "in touch" with his inner nice guy House gets, I just don't see him getting up and doing that rap.
My biggest concern is with something more subtle, that I've discussed with my husband (a psych rehab counselor) many times - the two edged issue of taking or not taking meds. While there was a nod to the issue, there was a definite bias towards the taking of meds, and little effort to show WHY so many don't want to do so. House's fears that his *spark* will fade is a valid one. In so many cases the choice isn't between *mental health VS mental sickness* but between *somewhat improved mental health + major side effects VS manageable coping without meds.* Sure there are definite cases where meds are the only way to become functioning as the alternative is terrible. But the issue isn't as clear cut as this episode made it appear, and I'm not convinced the issue for House, in particular, is as clear cut.
I hope this is followed up. I'd like to see House deal with the issue of taking meds, and maybe have the rapper dude brought back and a look at how maybe his creativity has been stunted.
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House
Sept 25, 2009 17:58:28 GMT -5
Post by Michelle on Sept 25, 2009 17:58:28 GMT -5
I think I agree more with Anne and Sue. While there were some great moments and some great material, especially, as noted. House's inner struggles and AB's role, I felt there were too many *convenient* moments - the writing and plotting felt very manipulative. And I don't care how "in touch" with his inner nice guy House gets, I just don't see him getting up and doing that rap. My biggest concern is with something more subtle, that I've discussed with my husband (a psych rehab counselor) many times - the two edged issue of taking or not taking meds. While there was a nod to the issue, there was a definite bias towards the taking of meds, and little effort to show WHY so many don't want to do so. House's fears that his *spark* will fade is a valid one. In so many cases the choice isn't between *mental health VS mental sickness* but between *somewhat improved mental health + major side effects VS manageable coping without meds.* Sure there are definite cases where meds are the only way to become functioning as the alternative is terrible. But the issue isn't as clear cut as this episode made it appear, and I'm not convinced the issue for House, in particular, is as clear cut. I hope this is followed up. I'd like to see House deal with the issue of taking meds, and maybe have the rapper dude brought back and a look at how maybe his creativity has been stunted. You know, you've brought up a really good point about the side effects of medication that aren't really ever discussed on the show. I wonder if in addition to having a doctor as a consultant, they should also have a pharmacist. I have a couple different medical issues that require me to take many medications, and I can personally attest to the fact that some doctors don't really know (or at least don't fully explain) the side effects when they write a prescription, nor do they always warn patients that taking a pill to fix one ailment might cause another ailment, thus necessitating another pill! I often have to scour the internet for information about what pills my doctor prescribed to really get an understanding of what's going on with my body. It can be really frustrating. And of course this gets waaaayyy trickier when it comes to mental health. People can react very differently to SSRIs--and often there is no way to know how someone will feel until after they have taken the pill for weeks, or even months. I hope that House continues to see Nolan (AB) on an out-patient basis.
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House
Sept 25, 2009 20:09:01 GMT -5
Post by SpringSummers on Sept 25, 2009 20:09:01 GMT -5
I think I agree more with Anne and Sue. While there were some great moments and some great material, especially, as noted. House's inner struggles and AB's role, I felt there were too many *convenient* moments - the writing and plotting felt very manipulative. And I don't care how "in touch" with his inner nice guy House gets, I just don't see him getting up and doing that rap. My biggest concern is with something more subtle, that I've discussed with my husband (a psych rehab counselor) many times - the two edged issue of taking or not taking meds. While there was a nod to the issue, there was a definite bias towards the taking of meds, and little effort to show WHY so many don't want to do so. House's fears that his *spark* will fade is a valid one. In so many cases the choice isn't between *mental health VS mental sickness* but between *somewhat improved mental health + major side effects VS manageable coping without meds.* Sure there are definite cases where meds are the only way to become functioning as the alternative is terrible. But the issue isn't as clear cut as this episode made it appear, and I'm not convinced the issue for House, in particular, is as clear cut. I hope this is followed up. I'd like to see House deal with the issue of taking meds, and maybe have the rapper dude brought back and a look at how maybe his creativity has been stunted. You know, you've brought up a really good point about the side effects of medication that aren't really ever discussed on the show. I wonder if in addition to having a doctor as a consultant, they should also have a pharmacist. I have a couple different medical issues that require me to take many medications, and I can personally attest to the fact that some doctors don't really know (or at least don't fully explain) the side effects when they write a prescription, nor do they always warn patients that taking a pill to fix one ailment might cause another ailment, thus necessitating another pill! I often have to scour the internet for information about what pills my doctor prescribed to really get an understanding of what's going on with my body. It can be really frustrating. And of course this gets waaaayyy trickier when it comes to mental health. People can react very differently to SSRIs--and often there is no way to know how someone will feel until after they have taken the pill for weeks, or even months. I hope that House continues to see Nolan (AB) on an out-patient basis. They went easy on both the effects of mental illness, and the side-effects of the meds. These patients seemed more like lovable loonies than persons suffering mightily from the effects of the sort of serious brain diseases that result in such hospitalization. So, the show did, indeed, obviously support the "taking of meds" but it undermined its own message by downplaying the effects of serious mental illness. Those meds do have serious side-effects - no one would take them if the illness weren't WORSE. But we just don't get a good idea of either side of this equation.
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House
Sept 28, 2009 13:00:13 GMT -5
Post by Sue on Sept 28, 2009 13:00:13 GMT -5
Casting spoiler for tonight's ep. Impacts plot. Andre Braugher is listed on tonight's episode. So apparently he will continue to see House.
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House
Sept 28, 2009 14:30:29 GMT -5
Post by Michelle on Sept 28, 2009 14:30:29 GMT -5
Casting spoiler for tonight's ep. Impacts plot. Andre Braugher is listed on tonight's episode. So apparently he will continue to see House. Great!!! That makes me happy.
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House
Sept 28, 2009 16:40:46 GMT -5
Post by KMInfinity on Sept 28, 2009 16:40:46 GMT -5
That's good news. Really good news.
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House
Sept 28, 2009 20:14:58 GMT -5
Post by Lola m on Sept 28, 2009 20:14:58 GMT -5
"House was an egotistical, pill-popping lawsuit magnet. And a genius." ;D And that's why we all watch the show, isn't it?
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House
Sept 28, 2009 21:26:16 GMT -5
Post by Lola m on Sept 28, 2009 21:26:16 GMT -5
You know, dude, chelation therapy has its own risks too. You don’t want to do it just for no reason. But mostly I care not about the medical case of the week, because I’m too busy squeeing over my sweet boys! Shacking up again and going to cooking class together! On the advice of his nummy Andre B therapist!! “What does Wilson like to do?” I am in heaven I tell you! “You might have saved my balls!” “That’s the spirit!” “If she’s a missionary, why does she dress like a hooker?” Oh, what a delightful ep! Now all I need to make me totally happy is a House/Wilson/Cuddy threesome . . . Come on, threesome!! OMG, 13 and Taub in the game?! Too! Funny! “You just suggested I give in so I can be happy. What did they do to you in there?!” I love how House turns his genius on cooking and proves he is . . . a genius! And then Wilson is all pouty when the food stops. Also? The hospital as a video game was really cool. I mean, not fun for the guy, but seriously cool. And, of course, we're gonna get House back to work! Yay!
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House
Sept 29, 2009 7:45:05 GMT -5
Post by Sue on Sept 29, 2009 7:45:05 GMT -5
Totally logical that the only thing more dangerous to his recovery than going back to work is .......... not going back to work.
Clearly he needs to have an addiction, the trick is to be addicted in a positive manner.
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House
Sept 29, 2009 10:57:39 GMT -5
Post by Michelle on Sept 29, 2009 10:57:39 GMT -5
Totally logical that the only thing more dangerous to his recovery than going back to work is .......... not going back to work. Clearly he needs to have an addiction, the trick is to be addicted in a positive manner. And what a trick that will be.I was surprised that Taub quit. Will he come back when House returns? I was a little bored by the back and forth between Foreman and 13. They just don't have any chemistry, imo. I enjoyed the COTW, and the computer graphics (especially when Taub and 13 were playing to avoid Foreman). The cooking class was great. Wilson just does not know how to deal with this new House. And poor House--he's trying, but he just can't stop himself from making comments about Wilson's balls. ;D House knows Chinese? Did we know this?
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House
Sept 29, 2009 11:44:17 GMT -5
Post by Karen on Sept 29, 2009 11:44:17 GMT -5
Totally logical that the only thing more dangerous to his recovery than going back to work is .......... not going back to work. Clearly he needs to have an addiction, the trick is to be addicted in a positive manner. Is that possible? Or do most addictions eventually implode? Is the realization that you 'need an addiction' to feel normal, enough to let you control the destructive aspects of whatever poison you choose to indulge in? Or are there some activities you can choose that are benign enough that won't be destructive? On Rescue Me, the main character periodically falls off the wagon because he can't deal with his feelings about 911, deceased brother, failed marriage, deceased son, abusive father, etc etc...but he is a kick ass fireman - even when drunk, or maybe especially when he is in a drinking phase. The trick to dealing with painful feelings, is to STOP THINKING about all of it - IT IS PAST HISTORY. OVER. CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IT HAS HAPPENED. MOVE ON. It is not disrespectful to the past relationship to move on. What is someone really addicted to afterall? A feeling (except after a time, in the case of alcohol/drugs - that is actually chemical - well, maybe all addictions change body chemistry, but I digress) ? A feeling isn't real in the sense of being sentient. A feeling can't control your actions, unless you let it. And why would you let it, unless in some way it makes you feel 'good', normal, something pleasurable, even if painful. Maybe it does give you an edge...a sense of power..the addiction. But that is all in your head, too. This sense of power is a feeling. Can you be powerful in actuality? I think so - if your ego will let you. Rambling....
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House
Sept 29, 2009 11:45:17 GMT -5
Post by Karen on Sept 29, 2009 11:45:17 GMT -5
LOVED the virtual video game.
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House
Sept 29, 2009 17:56:59 GMT -5
Post by SpringSummers on Sept 29, 2009 17:56:59 GMT -5
Totally logical that the only thing more dangerous to his recovery than going back to work is .......... not going back to work. Clearly he needs to have an addiction, the trick is to be addicted in a positive manner. And what a trick that will be.I was surprised that Taub quit. Will he come back when House returns? I was a little bored by the back and forth between Foreman and 13. They just don't have any chemistry, imo. I enjoyed the COTW, and the computer graphics (especially when Taub and 13 were playing to avoid Foreman). The cooking class was great. Wilson just does not know how to deal with this new House. And poor House--he's trying, but he just can't stop himself from making comments about Wilson's balls. ;D House knows Chinese? Did we know this?Yes . . . I have this vague memory of him treating this young Chinese girl, or her mother or grandmother possibly . . . he was letting the young girl translate, but then he let on that he knew Chinese, I THINK (this is a very vague memory), because the girl wasn't translating honestly. She was lying to the mom/grandma about what House was saying, and/or to House about what mom/grandma was saying. . . possibly to get herself birth control pills, or something like that. Anyhow, I think we did know this, one way or another.
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House
Sept 30, 2009 11:24:41 GMT -5
Post by Michelle on Sept 30, 2009 11:24:41 GMT -5
And what a trick that will be.I was surprised that Taub quit. Will he come back when House returns? I was a little bored by the back and forth between Foreman and 13. They just don't have any chemistry, imo. I enjoyed the COTW, and the computer graphics (especially when Taub and 13 were playing to avoid Foreman). The cooking class was great. Wilson just does not know how to deal with this new House. And poor House--he's trying, but he just can't stop himself from making comments about Wilson's balls. ;D House knows Chinese? Did we know this? Yes . . . I have this vague memory of him treating this young Chinese girl, or her mother or grandmother possibly . . . he was letting the young girl translate, but then he let on that he knew Chinese, I THINK (this is a very vague memory), because the girl wasn't translating honestly. She was lying to the mom/grandma about what House was saying, and/or to House about what mom/grandma was saying. . . possibly to get herself birth control pills, or something like that. Anyhow, I think we did know this, one way or another. Cool! Thanks, Spring. I love call backs to earlier episodes--even if I don't remember them.
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House
Oct 6, 2009 11:54:34 GMT -5
Post by Michelle on Oct 6, 2009 11:54:34 GMT -5
I almost wondered if it was Chase leaving the show and not Cameron, because they gave him such a meaty role last night. He's a much better actor than I thought. Last night proved that House is well and truly fucked-up, even when he means well. Sticking a syringe into a guy and duct-taping him to a chair just so he won't have to move out of Wilson's apartment. Truly fucked up.
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