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Post by Lola m on Feb 25, 2009 22:03:52 GMT -5
And we cut back to John in a hospital bed with Jack looking at him. Heh. coincidence!! Jack got the "only slightly crazy" beard on. It's got to grow a bit to get to full-on crazy Mountain Man looks. ;D But he's got the fully-crazy eyes, so they just needed to encourage the beard a bit. **nods a lot a lot** Seriously! I mean, I should just be automatically discounting everything that comes out of the guy's mouth and yet I still fall for some of it. ;D Isn't it great how we now just expect Benry to croak someone if he's being all kind and saving their life and so on? [off topic] Can I just say that the ads for "Better OffTed" look hysterically funny? I want to watch this show! [/offtopic]
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Post by Matthew on Feb 25, 2009 22:05:51 GMT -5
Sohe rehung Locke.
And any good criminal carries around some nitrile no-powder gloves and some windex.
I honestly believe him, with that catch in his voice.
Oh, it's the Hydra station, not the Village of the Darned. they're on the auxilliary island.
So they went walkabout in time. And the plane crashed.
"People who got hurt" where are they caring for them at? ah, in an infirmary there. Some people with first aid training.
Hi, Ben!
Nice exit line: "He's the man who killed me"
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Post by Lola m on Feb 25, 2009 22:07:55 GMT -5
"I'll miss you John. I really will. I never enjoyed killing anyone as much as you and I'll really miss that." Well, don't worry, Ben. He'll be alive and re-killable soon. "The timing would just confuse you." Ha!! Understatment of the year! Love seeing Locke's crazy/confused eyes as Cesar explains the experience and what's been going on. Benry!!!! "He's the man who killed me." Oh, this is gonna be awkward.
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Post by RAKSHA on Feb 25, 2009 22:23:22 GMT -5
I thought that Ben killed Locke because Locke had decided not to tell Sun that Jin was alive, since he promised Jin; and Ben knew that telling Sun that Jin lived would get her back to the island...
Ben is also very jealous of Locke, I think; he tried to kill him before after Locke communed with Jacob in the cabin.
Boy, Walt's grown up fast. I missed the part where he discussed the dream - what did he say? And why didn't he ask about Vincent?
G.
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Post by Sara on Feb 26, 2009 9:19:52 GMT -5
I thought that Ben killed Locke because Locke had decided not to tell Sun that Jin was alive, since he promised Jin; and Ben knew that telling Sun that Jin lived would get her back to the island...
Ben is also very jealous of Locke, I think; he tried to kill him before after Locke communed with Jacob in the cabin.
Boy, Walt's grown up fast. I missed the part where he discussed the dream - what did he say? And why didn't he ask about Vincent?
G.I had that exact same thought as I got ready for bed.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 26, 2009 13:23:06 GMT -5
I thought that Ben killed Locke because Locke had decided not to tell Sun that Jin was alive, since he promised Jin; and Ben knew that telling Sun that Jin lived would get her back to the island...I go back and forth over what it was that specifically led Ben to kill Locke. It seemed like it might be the last thing he said, about going to see Daniel's mom. But, it could be any of the other stuff, including the bit about not wanting to tell Sun about Jin (although, Ben could have just done so anyway, regardless of what Locke wanted, not necessarily kill him). On the other hand, what if instead Locke intended to kill him all along, but wanted info from him before? So, maybe Ben stopped Locke from killing himself so he'd have a chance to learn what Locke knew (and this act of convincing him not to kill himself coincidentally made Locke more trusting and thus want to talk to him)? He could have been secretly glad to see Locke in a suicidal mood 'cuz it made his plan easier . . . He might have been thinking all along about the way to get them all back and that he'd need a dead body to replicate the original flight. Hmmmmm. With Ben, you never know!! Totally! He really really doesn't want anyone but him to be the Very Special Island Mystic Man. 'Course, I tend to think this is Widmore's main motivation, too. [/color][/quote]
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Post by Sara on Feb 26, 2009 20:34:19 GMT -5
Some highlights from Doc Jensen's recap: ''There's a war coming, John,'' he said ominously, ''and if you're not back on the Island when that happens, the wrong side is going to win.'' Widmore didn't elaborate, and I wanted to punch Locke for not pressing the issue. Like:
JOHN: What kind of war? A world war? A territorial skirmish? An End Times war, like in The Stand, or The Last Battle, or Supernatural? And who would I be in this scenario? Jesus? Aslan? Jensen Ackles? Oo! Oo! Can I be Jensen Ackles?! Please?!Paraphrasing the Sayid/Locke chat: SAYID: John, you're being manipulated. By Widmore. By Ben. By both. Let this go. LOCKE: I don't care! Just come with me back to the Island. It'll be fun! SAYID: No. Stay with me and do some good work for some needy people here in the real world. LOCKE: HELP PEOPLE? IN THE REAL WORLD? WHEN WE CAN BE LIVING LIKE KINGS IN OUR OWN PRIVATE NARNIA? WHAT ARE YOU — CRAZY?! SAYID: John, your misplaced priorities disturb me. You've been infected with the 'American Idol' virus — that corrupt cultural value that equates self-worth with ''being special,'' self-realization with overstated achievement. Seriously, John: You have more to offer the world than hunting boar, pushing buttons, and blowing subs. Instead, you should consider emulating the kind of everyday heroism that I now sweatily embody: selfless, humble, global minded yet locally invested, building communities with my bare yet well-manicured hands — LOCKE: Oh, go wash your hair or something.And summing up the Locke/Hurley exchange: LOCKE: Come with me back to the Island. HURLEY: You're crazy, dude! And...scene.
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Post by Squeemonster on Feb 26, 2009 21:45:12 GMT -5
Some highlights from Doc Jensen's recap: ''There's a war coming, John,'' he said ominously, ''and if you're not back on the Island when that happens, the wrong side is going to win.'' Widmore didn't elaborate, and I wanted to punch Locke for not pressing the issue. Like:
JOHN: What kind of war? A world war? A territorial skirmish? An End Times war, like in The Stand, or The Last Battle, or Supernatural? And who would I be in this scenario? Jesus? Aslan? Jensen Ackles? Oo! Oo! Can I be Jensen Ackles?! Please?!Paraphrasing the Sayid/Locke chat: SAYID: John, you're being manipulated. By Widmore. By Ben. By both. Let this go. LOCKE: I don't care! Just come with me back to the Island. It'll be fun! SAYID: No. Stay with me and do some good work for some needy people here in the real world. LOCKE: HELP PEOPLE? IN THE REAL WORLD? WHEN WE CAN BE LIVING LIKE KINGS IN OUR OWN PRIVATE NARNIA? WHAT ARE YOU — CRAZY?! SAYID: John, your misplaced priorities disturb me. You've been infected with the 'American Idol' virus — that corrupt cultural value that equates self-worth with ''being special,'' self-realization with overstated achievement. Seriously, John: You have more to offer the world than hunting boar, pushing buttons, and blowing subs. Instead, you should consider emulating the kind of everyday heroism that I now sweatily embody: selfless, humble, global minded yet locally invested, building communities with my bare yet well-manicured hands — LOCKE: Oh, go wash your hair or something.And summing up the Locke/Hurley exchange: LOCKE: Come with me back to the Island. HURLEY: You're crazy, dude! And...scene.
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Post by Lola m on Feb 28, 2009 21:03:52 GMT -5
Some highlights from Doc Jensen's recap: ''There's a war coming, John,'' he said ominously, ''and if you're not back on the Island when that happens, the wrong side is going to win.'' Widmore didn't elaborate, and I wanted to punch Locke for not pressing the issue. Like:
JOHN: What kind of war? A world war? A territorial skirmish? An End Times war, like in The Stand, or The Last Battle, or Supernatural? And who would I be in this scenario? Jesus? Aslan? Jensen Ackles? Oo! Oo! Can I be Jensen Ackles?! Please?!Paraphrasing the Sayid/Locke chat: SAYID: John, you're being manipulated. By Widmore. By Ben. By both. Let this go. LOCKE: I don't care! Just come with me back to the Island. It'll be fun! SAYID: No. Stay with me and do some good work for some needy people here in the real world. LOCKE: HELP PEOPLE? IN THE REAL WORLD? WHEN WE CAN BE LIVING LIKE KINGS IN OUR OWN PRIVATE NARNIA? WHAT ARE YOU — CRAZY?! SAYID: John, your misplaced priorities disturb me. You've been infected with the 'American Idol' virus — that corrupt cultural value that equates self-worth with ''being special,'' self-realization with overstated achievement. Seriously, John: You have more to offer the world than hunting boar, pushing buttons, and blowing subs. Instead, you should consider emulating the kind of everyday heroism that I now sweatily embody: selfless, humble, global minded yet locally invested, building communities with my bare yet well-manicured hands — LOCKE: Oh, go wash your hair or something.And summing up the Locke/Hurley exchange: LOCKE: Come with me back to the Island. HURLEY: You're crazy, dude! And...scene. It's funny because it's true.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 1, 2009 19:38:05 GMT -5
Yay, we finally get to figure out what happened to Locke! Whoo hoo!
Teaser
Is this an archeologist? I feel like Indiana Jones is going to pop out of the shadows any moment.
Ah, an island groupie.
Caesar.
Hey, that chick looks familiar.
Plane crash.
Oh, these were the other folks on the Ajira flight. So the plane crashed, but it's relatively intact.
It's Locke! Who hasn't lost his flair for the dramatic. ;D Interesting.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 1, 2009 19:49:49 GMT -5
Part I
Ooh, pretty shots of Hawaii.
And hey, wasn't Locke's legs busted by the fall?
Alonna.
Pilot and a woman took off with one of the kayaks.
And wait, were was that room that Caesar and Alonna were in at the beginning?
Whoa. That's resurrected Locke? My mind is blown again some more.
Now we get Locke's history.
Looks like Locke ended up in the same place that Ben did. Yep, Tunisia. Well, that's consistent at least.
OK, his leg's still busted.
Surveillance cameras.
Damn he's still there after nightfall? That really sucks.
Here come the commandos again. Ah, a hospital. They sure are nicer to him than they were to Ben.
Setting the bone. Wowsers.
Widmore!!!
Widmore was the leader of the Others until he was exiled by Ben. Can we really believe anything that Widmore says?
There's a war coming, and unless Locke is back on the island before that happens the wrong side is going to win. How exactly? And which side is the wrong side?
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 1, 2009 20:01:49 GMT -5
Part I
Fake ID for Locke. So Widmore is the one who made that happen.
Meta reference to Locke/Bentham. Heh.
Widmore has been keeping tabs on the Oceanic 6.
Widmore argues that he's not the one who's lying because he hasn't tried to kill Locke. Well, I'm not sure that's true, and even if it were, I'm not sure that it's a sound argument.
Locke brings up the whole freighter with C4 and commandos that tried to kill everybody bit. Locke really does have his head on straight when he's not mire in daddy issues or drinking the island's kool aid.
What makes you think I'm so special? Because you are [huh?].
Widmore says he's not going to let Locke die. So... he's not in tune with Jacob/Christian/Smoke Monster/Island Ghostie Thing then? And what is the relationship between him and Richard? Hmm.
Abbadon. Ooh. And Locke recognizes him.
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. Why there?
Oh, that's where Sayid is. Working for Habitat for Humanity I see.
Oh, they're building a school.
Sayid worked with Ben for 2 years and then broke with him.
Locke doesn't mention that he's been in touch with Widmore.
Why do you really need to go back? Is it because you have nowhere else to go?
NYC, NY. Another school.
Looking up Helen.
Ah, Walt. Right.
Walt's been having dreams about Locke. On the island wearing a suit, surrounded by people who wanted to kill him. What else is new?
About Michael. I guess Locke doesn't really know what happen to Michael.
Locke doesn't ask Walt to go back to the island. I wonder if he got sucked back there anyway.
Ben is on Locke's tail. And he is NOT amused.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 1, 2009 20:11:25 GMT -5
Part II
Locke visits Hurley. And Hurley thinks Locke is another hallucination. Not surprising.
Hey, Hurley is wearing the clothes in that freaky vision that Charlie had.
And he freaks out when he sees Abbadon. Also not surprising.
Well, that went well.
About what Abbadon does for Widmore. He helps people get to where they need to go. Well, that explains everything.
LA.
Talking to Kate. Kate refuses.
Kate thinks that Locke doesn't love anyone. Well, he loves the island. That's one.
About Helen.
Yeah...Abbadon doesn't want Locke to see Helen.
Santa Monica.
Ohh, she died. Wow.
The Fate vs Free Will Argument Redux.
I'm just a driver. Is he like the guy who steers the ferry boat across the River Styx or something? Or Death a la Because I Could Not Stop For Death He Stopped For Me?
Well, until he gets shot, I mean. Holy Crap! I didn't see that coming.
I'll bet it was Ben's doing.
I'd say that this war Widmore refers to has been going on all this while. There's certainly been a lot of casualties.
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Post by Lola m on Mar 1, 2009 21:06:07 GMT -5
Part I Ooh, pretty shots of Hawaii. And hey, wasn't Locke's legs busted by the fall? Alonna. Pilot and a woman took off with one of the kayaks. And wait, were was that room that Caesar and Alonna were in at the beginning. Whoa. That's resurrected Locke? My mind is blown again some more. Now we get Locke's history. Looks like Locke ended up in the same place that Ben did. Yep, Tunisia. Well, that's consistent at least. OK, his leg's still busted. Surveillance cameras. Damn he's still there after nightfall? That really sucks. Here come the commandos again. Ah, a hospital. They sure are nicer to him than they were to Ben. Setting the bone. Wowsers. Widmore!!! Widmore was the leader of the Others until he was exiled by Ben. Can we really believe anything that Widmore says? There's a war coming, and unless Locke is back on the island before that happens the wrong side is going to win. How exactly? And which side is the wrong side? I'm starting to think there is no right side.
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Post by Lola m on Mar 1, 2009 21:10:02 GMT -5
Part II Locke visits Hurley. And Hurley thinks Locke is another hallucination. Not surprising. Hey, Hurley is wearing the clothes in that freaky vision that Charlie had. And he freaks out when he sees Abbadon. Also not surprising. Well, that went well. About what Abbadon does for Widmore. He helps people get to where they need to go. Well, that explains everything. LA. Talking to Kate. Kate refuses. Kate thinks that Locke doesn't love anyone. Well, he loves the island. That's one. About Helen. Yeah...Abbadon doesn't want Locke to see Helen. Santa Monica. Ohh, she died. Wow. The Fate vs Free Will I'm just a driver. Is he like the guy who steers the ferry boat across the River Styx or something? Or Death a la Because I Could Not Stop For Death He Stopped For Me? Well, until he gets shot, I mean. Holy Crap! I didn't see that coming. I'll bet it was Ben's doing. I'd say that this war Widmore refers to has been going on all this while. There's certainly been a lot of casualties. I too was totally surprised by Abbadon being shot.
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