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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 8, 2009 18:14:37 GMT -5
Coda
Horace and Sawyer talking. Ah, Amy kept Paul's crucifix.
Is three years really long enough to get over some one? Not if you're trying to sabotage your relationship, it isn't!
Sawyer shares his relationship woes. Memories fade.
Three years passed for the Island Losties, while three years passed for the Mainland Losties. Hmm.
Ah, we've caught up to Jin finding the Mainland Losties.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 8, 2009 18:16:00 GMT -5
This episode really flew by and I don't feel like a lot happened. Maybe that was a good thing though.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 8, 2009 18:33:06 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, I'm related to a bunch of Lafleurs... sadly, I doubt this episode is about them, though. This is Lost we're talking about, I wouldn't rule anything out.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 8, 2009 18:37:32 GMT -5
Whee! Back on the island! But.. but, we've already seen this scene.... and here's the new stuff with Miles going "way before" THe statue1!!!!eleventyone! And the well? is now quite quite shallow. Fill it with water and wait for people to come along and toss in coins. Then tackle them.Crap. If Charlotte had held out for a few more frimping minutes.. THREE YEARS!? Fully functional dharma station. And who's Horace, and why is he flinging dynamite around the sonic fence? Horace. Is Hootenanny chick gonna be important, aside from the fact that she's more observant than Phil and Jerry here? WHOOHOO! HOMETOWN BOY MAKES GOOD! With... a freaky assumed name.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 8, 2009 18:44:39 GMT -5
So that was Paul. This is moving with remarkable speed and transparancy for a LOST episode. "Boat from Tahiti" if anyone can pull it off, Sawyer can. Heh. Too much knowledge of the sonic fence. Sweet! you can slip the fence just by wearing earplugs? Three years later.. so they're real incognito. And I am so turned on by Mechanic!Juliet that I can't express it. Amy knows more about them than anyone else, I'm guessing. HAH! Knew we were gonna get that side-effect. "For our people" Do they mean Rose and Bernard, et al. or what?Wow! a successful birth! that means the two-term jinx comes in later? Yeah, I noticed that too! Have they just completely forgotten about Rose and Bernard?
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 8, 2009 20:03:06 GMT -5
Sawyer and Juliet are totally and officially my new Lost OTP. After rewatching the flower scene several times to get a huge hit of fluff once or twice more I think I finally put my finger on what made James and Juliet, at least to my mind, seem different than watching Jack and Kate together three years into their future: James and Juliet came across as more grounded, more... grownup, for lack of a better word. I also thought that giving Juliet the flower really nicely symbolized the kind of man he'd become: sweet, thoughtful, tender, and more centered and comfortable in his skin and with his emotions. And given that his new name, LaFleur, means "the flower" in French, it was an incredibly fitting gesture to boot. *nods*
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 8, 2009 20:09:03 GMT -5
All kinds of internet goodies today. Over at lost.cubit.net, they're wondering if the four-toed statue might not be the figure of Anubis, especially when compared with an image they found of the Egyptian god: <snip> That thing Anubis is holding in his right hand? An ankh, which of course is the symbol Amy's dear departed Paul wore around his neck. They also point out it certainly isn't the first reference to ancient Egypt we've had on the show: Other references we've had to ancient Egypt have been Horace Goodspeed (from the Egyptian God Horus); The Hieroglyphs we've seen in many places including the Temple, the Frozen Donkey Wheel, the Ben Cave, and of course in the Swan Station(note: At Comic Con 06, Lost writers said that the translation they were hoping to convey was "Underworld" for these hieroglyphics, which would be a place of death. ); Hurley's recent painting of the Sphinx and Pyramids [seen briefly when Locke visited him] and the Ankh Necklace in tonight's episode. Can the producers make it any clearer to us that Ancient Egypt holds a key in all of this.Jeff "Doc" Jensen over at EW also reminds us that both men and women in ancient Egypt wore eyeliner—just like Richard Alpert. A few other choice bits from Doc:If Jack is the Man of Science, and if John Locke is the Man of Faith, then I nominate Sawyer as Man of Heart. To hell with it: Can we just say he's the effin' man?!' Because in last night's Lost, he certainly was all that, plus a bag of Dharma chips. The kind of dude all the boys want to be; the kind of hunk that all the girls wanna get with — provided they're cool with his new slightly shorn and less stubbled look. Stepping up as leader, savior, and super-cool boyfriend — and succeeding wildly at all three — Sawyer found himself born again in the Dharma Initiative past. He seemed perfectly at home, perfectly at ease, perfectly self-realized within the confines of the trippy-hippy Utopian commune. Making the ex-con the head of Dharma security? Genius. Coupling him with fertility doc-turned-motor pool mechanic Juliet? Totally worked for me. Kudos to Josh Holloway and Elizabeth Mitchell for selling us on the best romance Lost has ever given us. Consider my membership in the Skater/SawKate/Kateyer 'shipper club resigned, chopper kiss be damned.
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From the get-go last night, Sawyer was the picture of sacrifice. The second he saw that well reappear — BAM! He was on it, ready to shimmy into the underworld. He was the man with the misguided beach plan, and he showed admirable restraint dealing with Miles' sarcastic derision — and admirable humility when Juliet chided him privately for his stupid idea. But publicly, she backed his plays 100%. I loved this. I loved how in 1974, she built up his heroic character — and then in 1977, he returned the favor by rebuilding hers when he called upon her to deliver that baby. ''You're going to do great. I know you are,'' he said. Mersh. Sawyer was showered with something he rarely gets: trust. And what happened? He flourished. Like a flower. LaFleur. See how this works?
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THE THREE YEARS LATER TIME JUMP: DIDN'T THEY DO THIS ON BATTLESTAR GALACTICA? Almost. At the end of BSG's second season, the Best Show Nobody Is Ever Going To Watch No Matter How Much They Beg (And Anyway It's Too Late) pulled a memorable one-year later time leap after the Adama's rag-tag refugees decided to bag their Earth quest and make do on a harsh rock they called New Caprica. Natch, the Cylons hunted them down, bringing hardship to their hard but happy home. How much you wanna bet Jack, Kate, Hurley and co. wind up becoming Cylons in this equation? Jack Shepherd will likely assume the role of Odysseus, trying to rouse his crew from their lotus-induced tranquility and make them move on, by any means necessary. But from Sawyer's perspective, the prospect may be as welcome as marauding toasters. We shall see.Ooh, thanks for posting this, Sarah.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 8, 2009 20:12:31 GMT -5
From an EW poster: "I really liked the idea someone mentioned of Richard Alpert = RA, Egyptian Sun God. Very clever."I love the idea of Richard being some kind of eternal Egyptian god-guy or something! That? Would be awesome! And yes, the eyeliner totally fits! That would explain why The Others look all Caucasianish rather than Pacific Islander.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 8, 2009 21:39:19 GMT -5
So I guess this episode nixes my Charlotte is Daniel's daughter theory. Oh well. Since that's the case, I really want to know why last season it seemed like Miles and Charlotte had a thing going on and now this season it's all about Daniel and Charlotte.
Also, some one on my flist pointed out that the Losties who stayed on the island found peace and a sense of purpose and so forth, while the Losties who lost the island self destructed.
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Post by Sara on Mar 10, 2009 12:04:00 GMT -5
So, I just read a very interesting point over on Lostpedia.
When the time flashes began, we know from Locke's experience that the Others were not part of the dislocation in time—he was among them when the first flash occurred, and then he was all alone in the clearing when it ended.
However, there was one exception: Juliet. She was brought to the Island by the Others, lived and worked with them for three years, and yet she was pulled into the time flashes with the Oceanic survivors and the freighter folk.
So, for whatever reason, it appears the Island does not consider Juliet to be an Other. Maybe she never truly was one to begin with, given she wasn't with them voluntarily. Or maybe the mark the Others branded on her back has something to do with it—perhaps it somehow excludes her from ever being part of them again.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 12, 2009 18:42:15 GMT -5
Several people on my flist have reminded me that when Ben spouted off Charlotte's dossier in that episode when she first appeared, he said that she was born in 79. But We clearly see her at about 5 or so years old in this episode. It's not clear as to whether that's a goof or if that means that my cracktastic theory is still alive.
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Post by Lola m on Mar 13, 2009 21:27:22 GMT -5
This episode really flew by and I don't feel like a lot happened. Maybe that was a good thing though. It's like, it was full of untangling of time lines and settling down before the next big roller coaster swoop. Plus, we got more Richard, which is always excellent.
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Post by leftylady on Mar 17, 2009 18:29:46 GMT -5
Ok, I saw a really neat thought in my browsing about LaFleur (@ ew.com?)
To whit: If your Lostings are now living in the Dharma age, perhaps they will encounter / spend years with young Ben. Could Ben having known our castways and their story and awaiting their "return" in 2004 be why Ben sent his Others out to check a list of names when Oceanic 815 crashed? Ben could have been spending years researching their lives and compiling files, waiting for that day. But to what end?
If thats so, then maybe Widmore was also tracking others besides Locke once Ben tricked him off the island.
leftylady, who loves the possibilities ;D
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Post by dr76 on Jan 8, 2010 15:10:06 GMT -5
"La Fleur" is probably my second favorite LOST episode of all time.
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