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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Dec 18, 2009 21:08:54 GMT -5
Also from the last part: I have just caught myself in a error of epic proportions. I have scanned information for one claimant into the folder of another claimant AND scanned the second claimant's information into the file of the first one. This is badness on an apolalyptic scale. I can't delete the documents. I can only copy a page from a good document and delete all the bad pages. I then have to scan the proper documents in and mark all the duplicates. Wow, that's one totally sucktastic piece of interface design, there. You are the victim of IT ineptitude, not the idiot yourself. Systems that don't anticipate that kind of error are going to fail, always and forever and frequently, and it's too bad they failed on you. Julia, same stupid which designs vacuum cleaner hoses, apparently
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Dec 18, 2009 21:11:39 GMT -5
Also, about fans, and fannishness: If it brings you joy and harms nobody, it's outside of critical comment. Period.
Julia, the world is short on free-range fun, and humans tell stories and sing songs and play games to make their own: it's what makes us human.
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Post by SpringSummers on Dec 18, 2009 21:24:39 GMT -5
Thought I might do another "Ye Olde Post" and went searching for posts from Dec 18 . . . and then found this one from Dec 17, 2006 - which is me, talking about spending the evening watching Sagan's Cosmos with my son - anyhow, I would have never remembered this, if not for the board.
It's something, really, the way we are chronicling our lives, here!
Anyhow, here it is, from Dec 17, 2006:
I'm gonna have to remember that: Moons of Saturns.
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Post by Onjel on Dec 18, 2009 22:01:41 GMT -5
What a neat memory, Spring. Even better that you were able to access the written record of it here to bring it all back for you. What a lovely Christmas gift.
I was cleaning out my yahoo email account today and found a voice mail message from my father, dated August 18, 2008. It is the greatest Christmas gift that I was able to hear his voice again and will be able to hear from now and into the future-and not just in my head.
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Post by Onjel on Dec 18, 2009 22:03:16 GMT -5
Onj: So sorry; Mom and I ran to Walgreens! Diane: Dude, we all make mistakes. No need to smack yourself around, especially since you caught the mistake before anything bad happened! No apology necessary. And, Diane: Erin and Julia are right. Be nicer to yourself. Heaven knows bosses can be bad enough. Don't make their job any easier by berating yourself, hon.
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Post by Sara on Dec 18, 2009 22:30:00 GMT -5
Also, about fans, and fannishness: If it brings you joy and harms nobody, it's outside of critical comment. Period. Julia, the world is short on free-range fun, and humans tell stories and sing songs and play games to make their own: it's what makes us human. Word.
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Post by Queen E on Dec 18, 2009 22:32:51 GMT -5
Onj: So sorry; Mom and I ran to Walgreens! Diane: Dude, we all make mistakes. No need to smack yourself around, especially since you caught the mistake before anything bad happened! Erin, I found that Chronicle article I mentioned earlier, but can't link you to it, as you have to log-in as a subscriber to read it. BUT, here is the specific quote comparing sports fans to "readers and theatre-goers." In his book The Ghost in the Machine, Arthur Koestler noted that "the glory and the tragedy of the human condition both derive from our powers of self-transcendence." Koestler went on to point out that there was an important difference between primitive identification (fish in a school, birds in a flock) that results in a homogenous, selfless grouping, and the higher level of integration that produces a heterogeneous assemblage whose members retain their individuality. In the first case — which includes the rabid sports fan — there is a surrender of personal identity and responsibility. In the second — that of the reader or theatergoer — the escape from the self is always conditional, transient, and within control.That very last bit made me laugh out loud. Hee! That describes our group to a tee!
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Dec 18, 2009 23:56:28 GMT -5
Onj: So sorry; Mom and I ran to Walgreens! Diane: Dude, we all make mistakes. No need to smack yourself around, especially since you caught the mistake before anything bad happened! True. Mistakes don't count if they're fixed before anybody else sees them.
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Dec 19, 2009 0:06:36 GMT -5
Onj: So sorry; Mom and I ran to Walgreens! Diane: Dude, we all make mistakes. No need to smack yourself around, especially since you caught the mistake before anything bad happened! True. Mistakes don't count if they're fixed before anybody else sees them. Mistakes are inevitable; software which punishes finding your mistakes by making them torturous to remedy is stupid in every dimension, and from every perspective: office efficiency is as badly damaged as employee morale. Well-designed user interfaces and documentation software is clear, has frequent feedback (so mistakes can be corrected early) and can be corrected without reformatting the document. This is why we no longer use typewriters and carbon paper. Julia, although way too much software is designed as if computers are really no different thantypewriters.
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Post by Cal on Dec 19, 2009 7:36:18 GMT -5
Just popping in to say hi. I hope everyone is well! {{S'cubies}}
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Dec 19, 2009 8:45:37 GMT -5
No comment needed:
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Dec 19, 2009 8:48:40 GMT -5
True. Mistakes don't count if they're fixed before anybody else sees them. Mistakes are inevitable; software which punishes finding your mistakes by making them torturous to remedy is stupid in every dimension, and from every perspective: office efficiency is as badly damaged as employee morale. Well-designed user interfaces and documentation software is clear, has frequent feedback (so mistakes can be corrected early) and can be corrected without reformatting the document. This is why we no longer use typewriters and carbon paper. Julia, although way too much software is designed as if computers are really no different thantypewriters. You have no idea how bad this software is. There are whole sections that, once filled in, are locked and cannot be corrected. Your tax dollars have bought a multi-million dollar monster that will house your files and is a BEAR to operate. It is far more involved with tracking than with actual functionality. But then, our office doesn't have much morale to destroy. And, in the long run going paperless will save millions of trees and it IS much faster to prepare than the paper files were. Not to mention no longer having to heft files weighing 10 pounds or more. I guess it's all a trade-off.
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Post by SpringSummers on Dec 19, 2009 9:24:34 GMT -5
Mistakes are inevitable; software which punishes finding your mistakes by making them torturous to remedy is stupid in every dimension, and from every perspective: office efficiency is as badly damaged as employee morale. Well-designed user interfaces and documentation software is clear, has frequent feedback (so mistakes can be corrected early) and can be corrected without reformatting the document. This is why we no longer use typewriters and carbon paper. Julia, although way too much software is designed as if computers are really no different thantypewriters. You have no idea how bad this software is. There are whole sections that, once filled in, are locked and cannot be corrected. Your tax dollars have bought a multi-million dollar monster that will house your files and is a BEAR to operate. It is far more involved with tracking than with actual functionality. But then, our office doesn't have much morale to destroy. And, in the long run going paperless will save millions of trees and it IS much faster to prepare than the paper files were. Not to mention no longer having to heft files weighing 10 pounds or more. I guess it's all a trade-off. I have been up to my eyeballs in doc imaging system related issues, including software selection and more, the last few years, because I've been heavily involved in the University-wide implementations for things like admissions, payables, financial aid, and more. I don't know what system you use, but with most, what is "locked down" is not about the way the software is engineered, but is about user privileges. If you can't delete docs, you may not have the right level of user privileges you should have, for the level at which you use the software. Those sorts of decisions (who gets what level of access) are made by functional administrators . . . and sometimes they make very bad decisions on it. Having different levels is important for security and for maintaining the integrity of the system. I mean - it needs to have that feature - the ability to lockdown some things. Anyhow, it may be you have a truly horrible (and I'm thinking either very old, or not from major manufacturer) system. But if you have a fairly recent, standard system, lockdown of things like document deletion is about user privileges. See if you can get a higher level - sounds like you need it! Regardless, don't beat yourself up over the mistake - everyone makes them, judging from the number of calls our Doc Imaging tech guru guy gets around here, from folks saying: "Help me!"
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Dec 19, 2009 12:24:57 GMT -5
#wavey#
I have been playing Plants vs Zombies. continuously. since the last time I posted.
... I should probably put the computer down now. *facepalm*
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Post by SpringSummers on Dec 19, 2009 12:41:07 GMT -5
I have been playing Plants vs Zombies. continuously. since the last time I posted. ... I should probably put the computer down now. *facepalm* Step away from the computer . . . PS> Are you closer to becoming a Plant or a Zombie?
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