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Post by Lola m on Aug 5, 2007 18:23:13 GMT -5
Original Air Date: 02/05/2003 Written by: Elizabeth Craft & Sarah Fain Directed by: Sean Astin
Angelus, caged, engages in psychological warfare.
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Post by Lola m on Aug 5, 2007 18:27:20 GMT -5
Tucson vamps touristing in L.A. Svea priestesses kicking back in Pacoima. Angelus reminiscing about the Beast back in old Prussia.
Sounds like we’ve entered the fouth week of the 2007 Sizzlin’ Episode Festival.
Our seventh most requested Angel episode is
Soulless
Taking out Angel's soul. Putting it in a jar. I hope we know what we're doing.
Fred: Charles, remember, we can't believe anything Angelus says. Gunn: How 'bout the stuff that's true? Can we believe that? Cordelia: He distorts everything. He lies with the truth. It's part of what makes him so dangerous.
ANGELUS: Is this the part where I'm supposed to get defensive, start talking to prove you wrong? What else you got? Wesley: You must hate it. That Angel fights evil.
Fred: Stop it! This is insane! You're doing exactly what Angelus wants.
Connor: The truth is, Angel's just something that you're forced to wear. You're my real father.
Cordelia: Look in my eyes. Angel knows me. You know me. Better than anyone. So, when you look at me, you know I'm not lying.
Angel's soul. It's gone. Want to get all fired up for discussing? Watch your DVD or tape, or read the episode[/color] here.[/size] It’s just words.
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Post by Lola m on Aug 9, 2007 12:15:04 GMT -5
This is another one of my favorite arcs in AtS. The episodes of the Beast, so to speak. From his initial rise and the decision to bring back Angelus to the final moments as Darla tries to stop Connor from helping to bring about the next arc - Jasmine and her wacky world of happy mindless minions.
I love that they actually manage to make Angelus menacing. Totally locked up in a cage, with really only his voice and his devious mind as weapons. And it works. Even though they are prepared, even though they know he is playing with them, he just about succeeds.
I mean, ultimately, to wreak total havoc on them, he needs help from Jasmine-in-Cordy, but still.
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Post by leftylady on Aug 10, 2007 17:17:26 GMT -5
This is another one of my favorite arcs in AtS. The episodes of the Beast, so to speak. From his initial rise and the decision to bring back Angelus to the final moments as Darla tries to stop Connor from helping to bring about the next arc - Jasmine and her wacky world of happy mindless minions. I love that they actually manage to make Angelus menacing. Totally locked up in a cage, with really only his voice and his devious mind as weapons. And it works. Even though they are prepared, even though they know he is playing with them, he just about succeeds. I mean, ultimately, to wreak total havoc on them, he needs help from Jasmine-in-Cordy, but still. This is of one of my most favorite episodes of the entire AtS series and the Season 4 arc is one of my favorite arcs. So etah, Lola in your praises. DB really makes Angelus work. I've been very busy and haven't had the time to rewatch any episodes of the summer Episode Fest or to contribute much but wanted to point out an article from slayage.com that I had read a long time ago before I found the S'cubies. It's called "Put Out the Light: Othello and Angel" www.slayage.com/articles/000016.html#000016It proves once again what great writers we enjoyed in all the Whedon series, not just BtVS. leftylady
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Post by Squeemonster on Aug 10, 2007 18:59:44 GMT -5
Angelus in this episode really scares the bejeezus out of me. I find myself wanting to scream at the screen, "Don't go down into the basement! For the love of god and all that is holy, DO NOT go down there!" He's just so freakishly good at being evil. And DB is phenomenal in this episode, as are the writers. My favorite kinds of scary are the mess-with-your-head kinds of scary, and this episode is superb at this. It always makes me wonder just how much of Angelus is a part of Angel--does Angel maybe secretly harbor similar thoughts and feelings as Angelus? Ya gotta wonder....
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Post by Karen on Aug 13, 2007 11:50:06 GMT -5
OMG!!! How did this episode make it through the censors? ANGELUS: Othello and Desdemona. My favorite couple. Oh, wait, Desdemona wasn't in love with the other guy. So much for stand by your man. Then again, you probably like her on her knees.
GUNN: (pointing crossbow) Keep talking. I'll sweep out the cage when I'm done.
ANGELUS: Oh. Provocative. Get me all riled up. You think that's what your boss would want?
GUNN: Don't have a boss.
ANGELUS: You might want to tell Wesley that. Ah, Fred. You look all fresh and sweet, but I hear you at night in your room with Gunn. The things you say. I'm lying there, listening, hands under the covers... I can't help myself. It's so... gripping.
GUNN: This coming from a guy who can't get any. Ever.
FRED: You're a pig.
(she pushes a cart upon which she's paced a glass of blood towards him)
GUNN: Step back.
(Angelus pushes the cart into Fred, causing her to fall foward onto it. He grabs her through the bars))
ANGELUS: Might get some now.
(commercial)
ANGELUS: (Fred struggles against him) I like the way you move, Fred. Do it just a little to the left.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Aug 17, 2007 18:03:09 GMT -5
Sean Astin, who played Sam in Lord of the Rings, among other things, directed this episode. Well directed considering it mostly takes place in the basement and is a very talky episode.
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Post by luvmyfirefly on Jul 20, 2008 22:10:48 GMT -5
Am I the only one who sees Angelus channeling Hannibal Lector with a pinch of Wayne Newton in Soulless? It certainly is entertaining!
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jul 21, 2008 6:00:50 GMT -5
Am I the only one who sees Angelus channeling Hannibal Lector with a pinch of Wayne Newton in Soulless? It certainly is entertaining! Hannibal Lector, certainly. I'm not familiar at all with Wayne Newton. Hmm.
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Post by Lola m on Jul 21, 2008 16:36:05 GMT -5
Am I the only one who sees Angelus channeling Hannibal Lector with a pinch of Wayne Newton in Soulless? It certainly is entertaining! Heh! Now that's an interesting combo. ;D I can see the Hannibal Lector comparison, certainly. It's interesting to compare this to when Spike manipulated the scoobies in order to help Adam. Angelus and he are kinda using the same techniques, really. They're taking the tiny cracks that already exist in the relationships between these people, twisting and exaggerating the story for their own ends. So, it's like we're seeing Angelus do his own version of the "Yoko factor".
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