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Post by Rachael on Mar 23, 2006 14:03:18 GMT -5
Random thoughts - I'm not convinced that The Island healed Jin. He might not have been sterile, just had a low sperm count, so pregnancy was improbable but not impossible. My thoughts, exactly. But if not, I'm going with "the island fixed him" sooner than "virgin birth/Rosemary's baby". I've had enough miracle/mystery babies for one season, thankyouverymuch. What IS it with television right now? And, about Jin. Much as I love "good mood/loving/caring" Jin, I really loathe Angry Jin. It's Not Okay to be violent towards someone you love when they disagree with you, even if the violence is indirect (plants rather than people), and no matter how scared you are for them. Jin has anger control issues, and if it was me, I'd be thinking (again) about leaving him.
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Post by fish1941 on Mar 23, 2006 14:24:06 GMT -5
I don't think I would have left Jin. If I wanted my marriage to work, I think I would have pointed it out. And even Jin not only seemed to realize that he has anger issues, he had also hinted that he's getting tired of allowing his temper to get the best of him.
Jin needs to work on his temper. Sun needs to stop being so secretive with him. There's hope for these two, yet.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Mar 23, 2006 14:29:03 GMT -5
Random thoughts - I'm not convinced that The Island healed Jin. He might not have been sterile, just had a low sperm count, so pregnancy was improbable but not impossible. My thoughts, exactly. But if not, I'm going with "the island fixed him" sooner than "virgin birth/Rosemary's baby". I've had enough miracle/mystery babies for one season, thankyouverymuch. What IS it with television right now? And, about Jin. Much as I love "good mood/loving/caring" Jin, I really loathe Angry Jin. It's Not Okay to be violent towards someone you love when they disagree with you, even if the violence is indirect (plants rather than people), and no matter how scared you are for them. Jin has anger control issues, and if it was me, I'd be thinking (again) about leaving him. With you on the Angry Jin loathing. That was actually scary, and also inexcusable. Sun is making progress learning to stand up for herself, but she still has some growing up to do. Actually, they both do. Rose was acting rather childish as well - the little tantrum because Bernard forgot her birthday? That was unpleasant and inappropriate. I wonder what's going on with that couple, because I can't believe Rose going off the deep end over something that minor, especially after what Bernard has been through lately.
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Post by Rachael on Mar 23, 2006 16:01:05 GMT -5
My thoughts, exactly. But if not, I'm going with "the island fixed him" sooner than "virgin birth/Rosemary's baby". I've had enough miracle/mystery babies for one season, thankyouverymuch. What IS it with television right now? And, about Jin. Much as I love "good mood/loving/caring" Jin, I really loathe Angry Jin. It's Not Okay to be violent towards someone you love when they disagree with you, even if the violence is indirect (plants rather than people), and no matter how scared you are for them. Jin has anger control issues, and if it was me, I'd be thinking (again) about leaving him. With you on the Angry Jin loathing. That was actually scary, and also inexcusable. Sun is making progress learning to stand up for herself, but she still has some growing up to do. Actually, they both do. Rose was acting rather childish as well - the little tantrum because Bernard forgot her birthday? That was unpleasant and inappropriate. I wonder what's going on with that couple, because I can't believe Rose going off the deep end over something that minor, especially after what Bernard has been through lately. Sun's problems aren't of the same level of destructiveness, IMO. Yeah, she's kept secrets, but she was given good reason - her husband had turned into someone she didn't even recognize, and she didn't feel safe around him anymore. He simply hasn't earned back her trust, yet. It's to be expected. Jin, OTOH, has a temper that isn't safe to be around. With me, there are no second chances with the two great relationship evils: Physical and Emotional Violence. You get to hit me (or even come close) once. And only once. Which is why he'd be working on his anger management issues alone. And...the Bernard and Rose thing felt way out of character, to me. I mean, he's supposed to remember what day it is, exactly? In all his spare time, he's supposed to have been making notches on a tree branch?
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Post by Lola m on Mar 23, 2006 17:57:19 GMT -5
Random thoughts - I'm not convinced that The Island healed Jin. He might not have been sterile, just had a low sperm count, so pregnancy was improbable but not impossible. There's another possibility - Maybe the doctor was ordered to lie, twice, by Sun's father. No possibility of children, marriage disintegrates, Sun remarries father's choice. Yes, I am insane. Insane like a fox! Actually, that is a very very plausible idea. **snicker** Yes! Ana was wonderful in that scene and Sayid . . . Sayid worries me.
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Post by Lola m on Mar 23, 2006 17:58:08 GMT -5
Tooooo perfect, it was. It would only have been perfecter if he'd been reading wearing the sparkly rhinestone glasses. ;D Plus, I love that they keep the continuity of having him reading all the time. He's voracious enough he's gonna run out of Lostaway books: he's gonna have to move on to the bunker library. I'm glad that they have at least one addicted bibliophile on the island. Layers. Sawyer has 'em. Like an onion. Or a parfait. Or an onion parfait even.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Mar 23, 2006 19:29:00 GMT -5
With you on the Angry Jin loathing. That was actually scary, and also inexcusable. Sun is making progress learning to stand up for herself, but she still has some growing up to do. Actually, they both do. Rose was acting rather childish as well - the little tantrum because Bernard forgot her birthday? That was unpleasant and inappropriate. I wonder what's going on with that couple, because I can't believe Rose going off the deep end over something that minor, especially after what Bernard has been through lately. Sun's problems aren't of the same level of destructiveness, IMO. Yeah, she's kept secrets, but she was given good reason - her husband had turned into someone she didn't even recognize, and she didn't feel safe around him anymore. He simply hasn't earned back her trust, yet. It's to be expected. Jin, OTOH, has a temper that isn't safe to be around. With me, there are no second chances with the two great relationship evils: Physical and Emotional Violence. You get to hit me (or even come close) once. And only once. Which is why he'd be working on his anger management issues alone. And...the Bernard and Rose thing felt way out of character, to me. I mean, he's supposed to remember what day it is, exactly? In all his spare time, he's supposed to have been making notches on a tree branch? Yes, that's what I was trying to say - Sun needs to learn to stand up for herself, and walk away if necessary. I'm not always clear, even in my head. Another thing I liked - Sun goes to Kate for company when she's waiting for the test results. Maybe Kate can help Sun with her self-confidence. Bernard and Rose, yes, I think there's something else that has Rose upset. I can't see either of them losing sight of their priorities that way.
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Post by this is too good on Mar 24, 2006 0:34:32 GMT -5
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Post by SpringSummers on Mar 24, 2006 7:39:28 GMT -5
I don't think I would have left Jin. If I wanted my marriage to work, I think I would have pointed it out. And even Jin not only seemed to realize that he has anger issues, he had also hinted that he's getting tired of allowing his temper to get the best of him. Jin needs to work on his temper. Sun needs to stop being so secretive with him. There's hope for these two, yet. True. People have tempers - you can't leave them every time they display them or you'd never have a long term relationship of any kind. You'd also have to put a really unpleasant governor on yourself, to live with yourself. It's a matter of how (how violently, destructively), how often, and how easily the temper is displayed. I wouldn't leave a husband over what happened in that garden if it was basically an isolated, or very infrequent, type of incident. "Hitting me" would definitely be a one-time only incident. With Jin & Sun, it's a complicated picture - all that co-dependent stuff going on and such.
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Post by Lola m on Mar 24, 2006 8:38:14 GMT -5
#rofl1# #rofl1# #rofl1# #rofl1# #rofl1# #rofl1# #rofl1#
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Post by Squeemonster on Mar 25, 2006 15:44:23 GMT -5
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Post by Squeemonster on Mar 25, 2006 15:46:21 GMT -5
Tooooo perfect, it was. It would only have been perfecter if he'd been reading wearing the sparkly rhinestone glasses. ;D Plus, I love that they keep the continuity of having him reading all the time. He's voracious enough he's gonna run out of Lostaway books: he's gonna have to move on to the bunker library. I'm glad that they have at least one addicted bibliophile on the island. Layers. Sawyer has 'em. Like an onion. Or a parfait. Mmmm. Sawyer...parfait...chocolate sauce...strawberries...whipped cream...Jack....#thud# *goes to very happy place*
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 25, 2006 18:11:10 GMT -5
Interesting Observations From LJ-Land1. You will notice that when Sun looks at the pregnancy test box, it is labeled "Widmore Labs". In the earlier Charlie episode "Fire & Water", you will notice a billboard in the distance that says "Widmore Construction". As discussed in an official Lost podcast, this is not a coincidence. 2. When they cut to Jack and Locke talking outside the vault, Jack complains that he can't hear what Ana Lucia and Henry are talking about. This partly has to do with the fact that Locke is playing "Geronimo Jackson" on the record player. You can tell because he is holding the album jacket while they are talking. 3. Sawyer's newest book is "Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret." by Judy Blume. A very strange book for Sawyer to be reading. It is about the changes the female body goes through during puberty, the nature of God, and the main character's relationship with Him. Considered the epitome of all coming of age stories, and required reading for every teenage girl, what symbolism does it lend to Lost?
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Post by jeff on Mar 27, 2006 2:07:27 GMT -5
As far as Rose and Bernard I thought they seemed to slip into the old married couple routine. where they nitpick at each other and that makes them happy. Just the fact that they have the chance to do that again makes them happy.. just my take on it.
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Post by Sara on Mar 27, 2006 9:10:47 GMT -5
As far as Rose and Bernard I thought they seemed to slip into the old married couple routine. where they nitpick at each other and that makes them happy. Just the fact that they have the chance to do that again makes them happy.. just my take on it. That's pretty much how I read it as well--that they'd settled into the same kind of good-natured bickering many longtime couples tend to display.
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