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Post by Matthew on Oct 19, 2006 12:23:46 GMT -5
Kiersten came home during the airport scene and I missed some of this. So what did all you Lost afficionados get out of that. I saw all the losties (kind of) going through security and things like that. Anyone who can describe this scene for me? Oh and is Lost on to early in the evening for Butt shots? Cause I'm thinking they should have included one for Desmond. Or it could be I have watched far too many episodes of Nip/Tuck. It now seems weird NOT to have a butt shot. ;D Someone has probably already done this much better, but here goes. Basically, it was what you said - he saw most of the "main character" crash survivors as if they were all in the airport - with Desmond giving cryptic, and likely important, commentary. It started with Desmond saying that someone was in danger and Locke had to save them. Desmond said things like: "they'll be OK, for now" about Claire and Charlie; "Sayid will help" or "Sayid's on it" or something like that about Sun and Jin; "not Hurley", about, well obviously Hurley; and for Kate and Sawyer and Jack it was something like "you have to clean up your own mess first". Someone has already also noted that Hurley did not appear as a passenger, but rather as someone working for the airline or airport. And then there was blood and Mr. Eko's stick and so he knew that Mr. Eko was the one he had to save now. And I for one strongly resent the lack of butt shots when they have nekkid Desmond already on the screen. I mean, how much would it take to just pan down a bit, remove a little foliage, have him roll in some oil and . . . . Um. Yes, I too have been warped by Nip/Tuck. ;D Oh, and Sledgeweb has noted that the security guy frisking Jack where Jack, Sawyer, and Kate are waiting behind the glass partition, seperated from everyone else? Security guy is Benry. No butts were seen during the airport scene.
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Post by Lola m on Oct 19, 2006 12:25:21 GMT -5
Yay! Getting back to Locke and Desmond and Eko. How'd he get out into the field like that? Are his legs broken again? Is this a dream sequence? OK, not a dream sequence and his legs still work. Locke lost his voice. Locke needs to speak to the island. OK. A sweat lodge? OK. Hey, he's going to Eureka! You're going to go into your magic hut, and I'm going to stand guard out here in case you devolve into a monkey. Hee. Charlie gets some of the best lines. I totally loved snarky Charlie in this ep. I really want to know this. I mean, are we generally seeing the flashbacks sequentially; so that this happens after his break-up with anger-management-class-woman? It would seem likely from what he said about finally being over his anger. I find the "imploded" thing very interesting. Once again putting the parental figures up on a pedestal and then being crushed when they fall off. It was very action-packed and exciting. I liked this ep a lot.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Oct 19, 2006 12:25:40 GMT -5
Someone has probably already done this much better, but here goes. Basically, it was what you said - he saw most of the "main character" crash survivors as if they were all in the airport - with Desmond giving cryptic, and likely important, commentary. It started with Desmond saying that someone was in danger and Locke had to save them. Desmond said things like: "they'll be OK, for now" about Claire and Charlie; "Sayid will help" or "Sayid's on it" or something like that about Sun and Jin; "not Hurley", about, well obviously Hurley; and for Kate and Sawyer and Jack it was something like "you have to clean up your own mess first". Someone has already also noted that Hurley did not appear as a passenger, but rather as someone working for the airline or airport. And then there was blood and Mr. Eko's stick and so he knew that Mr. Eko was the one he had to save now. And I for one strongly resent the lack of butt shots when they have nekkid Desmond already on the screen. I mean, how much would it take to just pan down a bit, remove a little foliage, have him roll in some oil and . . . . Um. Yes, I too have been warped by Nip/Tuck. ;D Oh, and Sledgeweb has noted that the security guy frisking Jack where Jack, Sawyer, and Kate are waiting behind the glass partition, seperated from everyone else? Security guy is Benry. No butts were seen during the airport scene. Yes, I did notice that. The Rat!Benry profile is unmistakeable.
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Post by Lola m on Oct 19, 2006 12:26:05 GMT -5
Just remembered something: This episode, Locke couldn't speak. Last season, Eko wouldn't speak. More parallels between the two men. It's interesting that the island spoke to Locke through Eko, although it might just have been that Eko, being unconscious, was a handy vehicle. Also I was relieved to see that Charlie seems to have regained his hearing. I was worried about him. I did love Charlie snarking at Locke. Excellent catch on the parallel!
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Post by Lola m on Oct 19, 2006 12:27:54 GMT -5
Someone has probably already done this much better, but here goes. Basically, it was what you said - he saw most of the "main character" crash survivors as if they were all in the airport - with Desmond giving cryptic, and likely important, commentary. It started with Desmond saying that someone was in danger and Locke had to save them. Desmond said things like: "they'll be OK, for now" about Claire and Charlie; "Sayid will help" or "Sayid's on it" or something like that about Sun and Jin; "not Hurley", about, well obviously Hurley; and for Kate and Sawyer and Jack it was something like "you have to clean up your own mess first". Someone has already also noted that Hurley did not appear as a passenger, but rather as someone working for the airline or airport. And then there was blood and Mr. Eko's stick and so he knew that Mr. Eko was the one he had to save now. And I for one strongly resent the lack of butt shots when they have nekkid Desmond already on the screen. I mean, how much would it take to just pan down a bit, remove a little foliage, have him roll in some oil and . . . . Um. Yes, I too have been warped by Nip/Tuck. ;D Oh, and Sledgeweb has noted that the security guy frisking Jack where Jack, Sawyer, and Kate are waiting behind the glass partition, seperated from everyone else? Security guy is Benry. No butts were seen during the airport scene. Oh, right, thanks! I'd forgotten about Benry! A day without butts is . . . ;D
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Oct 19, 2006 12:31:07 GMT -5
Oh, and Sledgeweb has noted that the security guy frisking Jack where Jack, Sawyer, and Kate are waiting behind the glass partition, seperated from everyone else? Security guy is Benry. No butts were seen during the airport scene. Oh, right, thanks! I'd forgotten about Benry! A day without butts is . . . ;D A day without moonshine? Bad Anne!
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 19, 2006 12:37:16 GMT -5
Oh, right, thanks! I'd forgotten about Benry! A day without butts is . . . ;D A day without moonshine? Bad Anne! #rofl1#
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Post by Pixi on Oct 19, 2006 12:48:34 GMT -5
Someone has probably already done this much better, but here goes. Basically, it was what you said - he saw most of the "main character" crash survivors as if they were all in the airport - with Desmond giving cryptic, and likely important, commentary. It started with Desmond saying that someone was in danger and Locke had to save them. Desmond said things like: "they'll be OK, for now" about Claire and Charlie; "Sayid will help" or "Sayid's on it" or something like that about Sun and Jin; "not Hurley", about, well obviously Hurley; and for Kate and Sawyer and Jack it was something like "you have to clean up your own mess first". Someone has already also noted that Hurley did not appear as a passenger, but rather as someone working for the airline or airport. And then there was blood and Mr. Eko's stick and so he knew that Mr. Eko was the one he had to save now. And I for one strongly resent the lack of butt shots when they have nekkid Desmond already on the screen. I mean, how much would it take to just pan down a bit, remove a little foliage, have him roll in some oil and . . . . Um. Yes, I too have been warped by Nip/Tuck. ;D Oh, and Sledgeweb has noted that the security guy frisking Jack where Jack, Sawyer, and Kate are waiting behind the glass partition, seperated from everyone else? Security guy is Benry. No butts were seen during the airport scene. Hee!!! And yes - about Benry. One of my lj friends mentioned that and I totally missed that. And that's just really excellent because you can fanwank the losties in Locke's vision but Benry's appearance is far, far more intriguing. Thanks both Lola and Matthew for filling me in here.
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Post by Pixi on Oct 19, 2006 12:49:26 GMT -5
Oh, right, thanks! I'd forgotten about Benry! A day without butts is . . . ;D A day without moonshine? Bad Anne! #rofl1#
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Post by Rachael on Oct 19, 2006 13:00:32 GMT -5
Which has me sticking by my theory of Hugo as the other shamanic influence on the island; perhaps not so much at odds with Locke and Eko as I once thought, but definitely much more in the "relaxed and groovy" frame of mind than either of the Servants of the Island. He's more of a buddha than a bishop, too. It also makes me think back to How Hurley got to the island. I mean, many of the other passengers seemed to have been . . . herded toward that plane flight and therefore the island. But fate kept trying to keep Hurley off the plane and it was only his perseverance that got him there. So, maybe his brand of relaxed and groovy shaman thing will prove to be the element that changes the status quo on how the island things have been running. He's connected, through the numbers if through nothing else, but in a different way than the others? I have two competing hypotheses in my brain about Hurley - one is that he's the island's only REAL shaman/guide, and everyone else, even Locke, despite his seeming specialness, is on a journey of some sort to become the person they really are. The other is that there are TWO island forces battling it out for the minds of the Lostaways, and that one of them is less nice and fluffy and speaks to Locke and through Eko, and the other acts through Hurley. It'd be the less nice one that was trying to keep Hurley off that plane.
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Post by Rachael on Oct 19, 2006 13:03:27 GMT -5
Someone has probably already done this much better, but here goes. Basically, it was what you said - he saw most of the "main character" crash survivors as if they were all in the airport - with Desmond giving cryptic, and likely important, commentary. It started with Desmond saying that someone was in danger and Locke had to save them. Desmond said things like: "they'll be OK, for now" about Claire and Charlie; "Sayid will help" or "Sayid's on it" or something like that about Sun and Jin; "not Hurley", about, well obviously Hurley; and for Kate and Sawyer and Jack it was something like "you have to clean up your own mess first". Someone has already also noted that Hurley did not appear as a passenger, but rather as someone working for the airline or airport. And then there was blood and Mr. Eko's stick and so he knew that Mr. Eko was the one he had to save now. And I for one strongly resent the lack of butt shots when they have nekkid Desmond already on the screen. I mean, how much would it take to just pan down a bit, remove a little foliage, have him roll in some oil and . . . . Um. Yes, I too have been warped by Nip/Tuck. ;D Oh, and Sledgeweb has noted that the security guy frisking Jack where Jack, Sawyer, and Kate are waiting behind the glass partition, seperated from everyone else? Security guy is Benry. No butts were seen during the airport scene. Y'all didn't see Benry? I should have said. It's why I said "our people" when I said Hurley was the only one who worked in the airport rather than was traveling. I figured that Benry as the security guy was a bad sign.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Oct 19, 2006 13:04:26 GMT -5
It also makes me think back to How Hurley got to the island. I mean, many of the other passengers seemed to have been . . . herded toward that plane flight and therefore the island. But fate kept trying to keep Hurley off the plane and it was only his perseverance that got him there. So, maybe his brand of relaxed and groovy shaman thing will prove to be the element that changes the status quo on how the island things have been running. He's connected, through the numbers if through nothing else, but in a different way than the others? I have two competing hypotheses in my brain about Hurley - one is that he's the island's only REAL shaman/guide, and everyone else, even Locke, despite his seeming specialness, is on a journey of some sort to become the person they really are. The other is that there are TWO island forces battling it out for the minds of the Lostaways, and that one of them is less nice and fluffy and speaks to Locke and through Eko, and the other acts through Hurley. It'd be the less nice one that was trying to keep Hurley off that plane. Hurley is the most directly connected to the island, because he had the numbers long before he got onto the plane, and the numbers have been affecting his life for a while. We still don't know where the numbers originated, either. I could see Hurley's island force being a counterbalance to the one influencing Locke and Eko - it certainly makes as much sense as anything else. What if Hurley's numbers are logic, and the big smoke thing is faith, or something like that? Anne, anyone else want to unvague this up for me?
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Post by Rachael on Oct 19, 2006 13:07:02 GMT -5
I have two competing hypotheses in my brain about Hurley - one is that he's the island's only REAL shaman/guide, and everyone else, even Locke, despite his seeming specialness, is on a journey of some sort to become the person they really are. The other is that there are TWO island forces battling it out for the minds of the Lostaways, and that one of them is less nice and fluffy and speaks to Locke and through Eko, and the other acts through Hurley. It'd be the less nice one that was trying to keep Hurley off that plane. Hurley is the most directly connected to the island, because he had the numbers long before he got onto the plane, and the numbers have been affecting his life for a while. We still don't know where the numbers originated, either. I could see Hurley's island force being a counterbalance to the one influencing Locke and Eko - it certainly makes as much sense as anything else. What if Hurley's numbers are logic, and the big smoke thing is faith, or something like that? Anne, anyone else want to unvague this up for me? The reason I figured Hurley's force to be nicer is because Locke's said to him that "the island" required a sacrifice. Although I suppose you could view all the people that the numbers affected in Hurley's life as his "sacrifices".
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Oct 19, 2006 13:13:42 GMT -5
Hurley is the most directly connected to the island, because he had the numbers long before he got onto the plane, and the numbers have been affecting his life for a while. We still don't know where the numbers originated, either. I could see Hurley's island force being a counterbalance to the one influencing Locke and Eko - it certainly makes as much sense as anything else. What if Hurley's numbers are logic, and the big smoke thing is faith, or something like that? Anne, anyone else want to unvague this up for me? The reason I figured Hurley's force to be nicer is because Locke's said to him that "the island" required a sacrifice. Although I suppose you could view all the people that the numbers affected in Hurley's life as his "sacrifices". Sounds good to me. Hurley didn't "sacrifice" anyone intentionally; bad things just happen all around him. Locke talked Boone into a situation that got him killed because the island wanted a sacrifice. Besides, I like Hurley better than Locke anyway.
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Post by Karen on Oct 19, 2006 13:21:52 GMT -5
So Pot is the new black? First a roomful on Veronica Mars and now the cult his growing it? I love the polar bears too but why did they have to be so jerky/flashy when we see them. I just want to see the polar bears. ;D I guess incest is just too last year. #rofl1#
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