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Post by rae on Apr 5, 2006 21:38:03 GMT -5
some of tonight's themes: patience vengeance just how do you show you love somebody? ... i missed the last thing cassidy said to mac. anybody care to enlighten me? ... no time to read posts tonight - hopefully tomorrow! hope you all liked this one as much as i did. three really good ones in a row IMO ;D "Good luck on getting laid."
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Post by rae on Apr 5, 2006 21:41:30 GMT -5
Very. Something about the way he kept talking about Dick. "Dick is always there" - not wanting to go to his place because he'd be there. I mean, it could have been him using Dick as an excuse, but . . . sexually abused by Dick? urk. That is my fear too... although that may be too obvious? Or is it just too obvious for me because I'm on the Dick is gay kick? Now I'm back to one of my original thoughts on the "outings of all outings" - CAUTION: WILD CRAZY SPECULATION AHEAD... I think Woody may be gay and so I have to wonder if maybe Dick Sr was gay too. Actually, Woody being gay isn't so wild and crazy but Dick Sr is a bit - except for the fact that he seemed to know about Logan and Kendall and was ok with it. Anyway. The scene in the gym with Logan reminded me very much of the Veronica/Aaron scene in the car last year. Same ooky sexual creepy vibe to it. Eek.
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Post by raenstorm on Apr 5, 2006 21:59:07 GMT -5
Whew. Awesome episode. Rob had it right when he described this as a great episode. It kicked all kinds of ass.
Logan had a whole episode full of great freaking lines. I can't really pick out my favorites but I love how JD delivered, "Wait. Who are you?" in the parking lot. But the Bible burning his hand was also great. Or him wanting to fire Sheriff Lamb or using that signature to steal Lamb's parking spot. Ahh, happy snarky Logan - so good to have you back!
I applaud Jackie. So there.
I kind of adore Jane but I also adore Wallace - I'm so torn on what to feel about those two breaking up.
Like I said, I think Woody's gay and that shakes up my ideas about the bus crash a little but Beaver's actions are worrying me a bit as well. Grr, so much going on it's hard to keep track of it all.
Uh - so much going on I can't seem to gather my thoughts and speak intelligently.
So, for the record, I still don't think Thumper did it. That was way too easy to solve. And, why the hell didn't Logan remember that shit about the real witness earlier?! See, V, if you had been helping him it could have been so much easier... but then we wouldn't have Weevil/Logan so nevermind. What was I talking about? Oh, Thumper. Like I said, I don't think he did it ... especially since we got no closure on Logan's missing file. There's something more to all of this and watch it be bad that Logan is the one who actually brought that building down on Thumper. Eek.
WEEVIL!! The kids in the car?! Must you continue to corrupt your nieces and nephews?!
I'm sad for Mac and Beaver. He was harsh there at the end... Mac tries to do the healthy thing and communicate and look what it got her. What was it Gia was saying about relationships and the truth? Hmmmm....
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 5, 2006 23:03:17 GMT -5
Logan wins the contest to "push the plunger" and cause an explosion? Of course. Who else would win?
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 5, 2006 23:18:15 GMT -5
KEITH: Logan. LOGAN: That's Honarary Asst Deputy Commissioner Echolls to you. KEITH: Heh.
I think this is a deliberate bit of sarcasm from Logan, reminding Keith of when he said, "That's Mr Mars to you," to Logan earlier this season. Now if I could just remember when that was.
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Apr 5, 2006 23:52:35 GMT -5
I love him enough to keep trying to find out who killed him. Brava, Jackie!!! Nicely done. And Wallace, you'll always be the man! Can't tease you when the joke is pulled right out from under their feet. Oh dear. Logan with the supervisor's signature. That can't be good. OK, now they're making us think Woody is coming on to Logan. There's gotta be a gay theme if they're doing little tricks like this with all the characters.Molly . . . watch out!! "You were his whore." Oh, damn. That's a vicious thing to say to your sister. Was that her brother or her Uncle? Nasty piece of work he is. The actor looks familiar - I'm going to have to imdb him - he plays good evil. What was up with that little scene between Logan and Woody? He may have been feeling Logan out, or maybe he's just a touchy-feely kind of guy. He sure did an about face when he called off the newpaper photographer after he saw who won the essay. I had to track him down earlier tonight, as he was also on "Bones" as an ambiguously evil person; he was the unambiguously evil W&H client in "Conviction" who'd turned his own son into a bomb. Rodney Rowland. Julia, v. creepy person
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Apr 5, 2006 23:58:03 GMT -5
Uh... Thumper go boom?
EEK!
Julia, and that was a way sloppy job of security- when they imploded the King Dome nobody could get within the close cordon of guards
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 5, 2006 23:58:30 GMT -5
Weevil is spot on. There's no way Felix said that stuff about Molly. "Man, that Caligula!" **snicker** "But he's got such a cute knickname." - with his chin on his hand. Too! Cute! ;D ;D ;D "There's less I can do, trust me." Lamb, you are so . . . Lamb. "Got another tree?" Ooooh, Keith! You clever, clever man. Something wacky in Woody's household. Gia and Logan selling tickets to the school dance. OK, when did the apocalypse happen? Thumper, you git. Like you didn't know Weevil had experience with jumping and drugging guys. "You mean if there were total silence? Let's try to imagine it." ;D Ouch! Well, that was mean to Jackie, when she was doing something nice. Holy moley! Wallace goes for it, I guess. You had to know that would bit you in the butt, Wallace. Beaver looks so sad. I think you use sarcasm and anger to keep people away from you. Well, duh!! Ah, the dance of UST. Damn. Weevil is gonna get Thumper killed. Killed for real. "You run from the truth... ....Only when it's chasing me." I thought those two lines described the Beaver - Mac vibe pretty well. Some sort of truth is chasing Beaver, when Mac starts to ask for an explanation - and he runs.
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 6, 2006 0:00:34 GMT -5
Well, that's hella unfair. Blaming Jackie when it was Wallace that made the move. These Fitzpatricks are really really moronic. I mean, really. Woody is lying. Well, not lying about his wife being tough, but lying about the gardener and the DVD. Yay, Keith!! Find out what Woody was really being spied on for. Yay, witness!! Tell the truth! Yay, Lamb! For actually doing the right thing! And most of all, yay Wallace!! You are redeemed in my eyes. She's being harsh, but she's right Wallace. Everyone would blame her. So, is Cassidy gay, or is Dick making his life a living hell in some way and that's interfering with him and Mac? Or is it something else? Conveniently timed break up so he doesn't have to deal with things. Um. Did they just blow up Thumper along with his bike? Or . . . ? I think that he was blown up - but he could also be tied up nearby by the Fitzpatricks to put the fear of God into him. I guess it could go either way. Thumper was in the building went it went down. He may not have literally blown up, but he's buried (and I would think dead) under the rubble. How creepy for Logan and his powerful plunger.
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 6, 2006 0:02:09 GMT -5
Very. Something about the way he kept talking about Dick. "Dick is always there" - not wanting to go to his place because he'd be there. I mean, it could have been him using Dick as an excuse, but . . . sexually abused by Dick? urk. Oh - oook. Not bad theorizing, but . . .ooook. EDIT TO ADD: Your theory does add an extra ook to their "Dick and Beaver" names. Oh please don't let this be true. What if Cassidy was being sexually abused by his dad, but Dick wasn't? Remember how dad treated Dick like a man, but not Cassidy? Of course, such a situation would be really hard on Dick as well, and could explain why he's such a ass . . . why he tried to bully Cassidy into raping an unconscious Veronica . . . why Cassidy sought revenge on Dick in such an odd way, with that male transvestite hooker . . .
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 6, 2006 0:09:18 GMT -5
sexually abused by Dick? urk. That is my fear too... although that may be too obvious? Or is it just too obvious for me because I'm on the Dick is gay kick? Now I'm back to one of my original thoughts on the "outings of all outings" - CAUTION: WILD CRAZY SPECULATION AHEAD... I think Woody may be gay and so I have to wonder if maybe Dick Sr was gay too. Actually, Woody being gay isn't so wild and crazy but Dick Sr is a bit - except for the fact that he seemed to know about Logan and Kendall and was ok with it. Anyway. The scene in the gym with Logan reminded me very much of the Veronica/Aaron scene in the car last year. Same ooky sexual creepy vibe to it. Eek. YES!! I had the same thought. What was he doing touching Logan? Super-oooky. Obviously, Keith is suspicious of Woody. I still think that the "outing of all outings in Neptune" that the gay student who died in the crash referred to, has to involve some prominent Neptune figures. Woody and Dick Sr is a good theory. Could just be "Woody and the gay student." We are getting the hint that Woody likes teenage boys . . . Say the gay student had been seduced by Woody, and he became disgruntled for some reason, and threatened to out Woody? But . . . why kill a busload? Oook. It's a head spinner!
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Post by Matthew on Apr 6, 2006 0:23:06 GMT -5
Two things:
"No, that's the 'boy scout' salute. You gotta..."
and
"Dirty Sanchez?"
HEEEEEEEEE!!!!
More comments tomorrow.
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 6, 2006 0:24:35 GMT -5
Whew. Awesome episode. Rob had it right when he described this as a great episode. It kicked all kinds of ass. Logan had a whole episode full of great freaking lines. I can't really pick out my favorites but I love how JD delivered, "Wait. Who are you?" in the parking lot. But the Bible burning his hand was also great. Or him wanting to fire Sheriff Lamb or using that signature to steal Lamb's parking spot. Ahh, happy snarky Logan - so good to have you back! I applaud Jackie. So there. Yes - I thought Jackie did great. I was disappointed in Wallace, but he quickly corrected the situation and was honest with Jane. He didn't let Jackie take the heat, but admitted that he was the aggressor in the kissing, etc, Not only is Woody gay, he likes teenage boys, I'm thinking. Oh - the possibilities are so ooooky. A boy who has been sexually abused by another man could very well act the way Cassidy was acting with Mac. I remember a guy on TV talking about being abused when he was young, and how - even though he was a hetero by nature - it confused him so much, and he was afraid of being with girls for a long time. My best guess is that Thumper did it, but . . . I see where you're coming from also. And I agree about Logan - were we meant to believe that he was remembering those details for the first time? Yes. I felt so sorry for Mac. But Cassidy is hiding something - something that makes him very sad and upset. I thought the implicatiion, on the surface, was that Cassidy was gay, but I think that's a mislead. I think his issues are going to be more around some kind of vicitimization.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 6, 2006 0:25:41 GMT -5
Uh... Thumper go boom? EEK! Julia, and that was a way sloppy job of security- when they imploded the King Dome nobody could get within the close cordon of guards Well, the construction guys who checked for stragglers (and possibly the guards) were Fitzpatricks....
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Post by Rob on Apr 6, 2006 4:34:34 GMT -5
I applaud Jackie. So there. Yes - I thought Jackie did great. I was disappointed in Wallace, but he quickly corrected the situation and was honest with Jane. He didn't let Jackie take the heat, but admitted that he was the aggressor in the kissing, etc, I really liked how that played out, actually. Wallace's instincts were correct, but his timing was lousy. It's nice to see him make the occasional selfish mistake; keeps him real. Plus, he generally doesn't take long to try and make it right. As for Jackie, nicely handled. Wallace deserves to be temporarily blown off. Much as I loved freaking everything about this episode, I'm wondering why the storyline regarding Wallace's unique family situation has been totally ignored. I understand there's only so much time for plotlines, and Wallace only ran to Chicago because of real-life budgetary issues...but it still seems "off" that it was abruptly dropped, as if it didn't really happen.
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