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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 19, 2006 9:41:49 GMT -5
This one was a head-spinner, wasn't it? Quite a neat trick from Aaron, bribing Kendall...er...Priscilla...oh, the hell with it! For the rest of this post, she's Cordy. Quite a neat trick from Aaron, bribing Cordy to plant Duncan-hair on the Oscar. We'll see if it holds up in court. Either way, wouldn't the attempted murder of Veronica buy him a few years in the pokey? You would think that the attempted murder of Veronica would buy him a few years in the pokey, BUT, I can just see him spinning a "self-defense" tale around what happened with Keith and Veronica. You know - crazy sheriff and daughter are stalking and harrassing poor innocent Aaron . . . It could be as simple as Big Dick not really having such a big . . . well, you get the idea. Or if Big Dick is gay, and he's the one who would be "outed," then Kendall is just a "beard." Then their marriage is one that goes: "You help me pretend I'm a manly man hetero, I'll give you money and let you have boy-toys." I think he was going to Veronica for help. He told Weevil he hadn't been involved in the bus crash, but he knew who was.
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 19, 2006 9:51:54 GMT -5
This one was a head-spinner, wasn't it? Quite a neat trick from Aaron, bribing Kendall...er...Priscilla...oh, the hell with it! For the rest of this post, she's Cordy. Quite a neat trick from Aaron, bribing Cordy to plant Duncan-hair on the Oscar. We'll see if it holds up in court. Either way, wouldn't the attempted murder of Veronica buy him a few years in the pokey? Ok, it certainly appears that Cordy was working a long con on Big Dick Casablancas. Is Cassidy aware of this, and setting her up...or is he playing with fire without even knowing it? This could go either way; Beaver might be messed up, but he clearly inherited the brains in the family. If he suspects something, this could be his method to con her right back. Not to besmirch Logan's extreme manly hotness or anything, but now that we see Cordy as far more than a debutante who needs servants to pour milk on her cereal...what purpose did their dalliance serve? Seems unlikely she was just after a roll in the hay, and she's legally married to Big Dick, so the Echolls fortune can't have been the target. I hope they resolve this in a way that makes sense. Ok, Wallace...bad start, good middle, better finish. Jackie has completely turned things around since the problems with her father became public. Good for her...yet it isn't going to last. Sad for me. I was really beginning to like Jackie. I'm glad Weevil did right by his fellow PCHer's, then left them. It might bode well for his future. Call me crazy, but if I were Veronica I'd bring Backup along more often. He could have been useful, no? Plus, a big dog like that has to get bored in that tiny apartment. Free Backup! We now have so many suspects in this bus crash, the mind boggles. I've given up guessing; there's too much information that points in different directions. My best guess is a good-sized conspiracy...but nothing explains Curly washing up on that beach with Veronica's name on his hand. Why would someone do such a thing? To what end? Excellent post Rob. This was a very good episode - not to my mind on the exploding mind excellence of Plan B or I am God but very good, very much a Veronica episode. Setting up lots of information, widening the suspect pool, new revelations, good character moments - there were many, many things going on last night. First off - the title? Okay I get that it is referring to the Fitzpatricks mooning Gia but . . . . are the writers telling us to ignore the Fitzpatricks? Are they one of the numerous red herrings being tossed about. Brain - explody. So Cordy is more than just a slam piece and could in fact be the brains behind the whole enchilada. Woody is still in the mix - he was phoning Gia and knew right where the limo was, Liam obviously will just kill whenever, Beaver and Dick - absent this episode but still in the mix - the list goes on and on. And - just for fun we've added Aaron back into the mix. I love with a fiery passion that we are going to get to see more of Aaron and we get resolution to the why is Kendall grabbing Duncan's hair out of the shower. (and just how long does hair stay in those shower drains anyway? Duncan has been gone awhile now. Seriously - how does anyone get away with murder anymore with all the CSI evidence out there?) Aaron was just carting his Oscar about when he was dashing over to get the tapes back from Lilly? Lilly stole an Oscar when she took the tapes? How did Lilly's blood get on the Oscar? Enquiring minds WANT to know. Yes - brain explody. Aaron definitely set up the "find" of the Oscar, I would say. Maybe Aaron had something else with Lilly's blood on it, hidden somewhere - whatever the real murder weapon was. Then someone helped him transfer it on to his Oscar, along with Duncan's hair?? But - why his Oscar? Wouldn't it make more sense if it was something of Duncan's? Or is the idea to create as much CONFUSION as possible, rather than really put Duncan in jail for the murder? Ooook. It kept Logan off the bus, didn't it? I assume it was the reason that he didn't go on the trip - because he had an assignation with Kendall? Maybe she was just saving her boy-toy for future toying? I loved that Veronica mentioned Weevil's pretty eyes! Maybe Rob T does read our reviews?? That's what I am going to tell myself. Oh - I loved the Mac-Vincent-Veronica scene, when Mac is trying to figure out why Vincent is telling her about his dancing . . . I don't buy that the bag was supposed to be with Dick Jr. It was supposed to be with Peter. Dick just happened to grab it from the trash can, is my read. So I think it was supposed to be on the bus. Me too!!
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Post by Karen on Apr 19, 2006 10:08:30 GMT -5
This one was a head-spinner, wasn't it? Quite a neat trick from Aaron, bribing Kendall...er...Priscilla...oh, the hell with it! For the rest of this post, she's Cordy. Quite a neat trick from Aaron, bribing Cordy to plant Duncan-hair on the Oscar. We'll see if it holds up in court. Either way, wouldn't the attempted murder of Veronica buy him a few years in the pokey? You would think that the attempted murder of Veronica would buy him a few years in the pokey, BUT, I can just see him spinning a "self-defense" tale around what happened with Keith and Veronica. You know - crazy sheriff and daughter are stalking and harrassing poor innocent Aaron . . . It could be as simple as Big Dick not really having such a big . . . well, you get the idea. Or if Big Dick is gay, and he's the one who would be "outed," then Kendall is just a "beard." Then their marriage is one that goes: "You help me pretend I'm a manly man hetero, I'll give you money and let you have boy-toys." I think he was going to Veronica for help. He told Weevil he hadn't been involved in the bus crash, but he knew who was. I'm so crazy busy at work, but I just had to LOL at your description, Spring, of Kendall as being 'just a beard'. #rofl1##rofl1#
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Post by Sharky on Apr 19, 2006 10:35:51 GMT -5
And, thanks to my crappy UPN affiliate, I TiVo'd 60 minutes of static. Or, is that a clue? Think I'll send them my enforcer.
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Post by artemis on Apr 19, 2006 11:14:08 GMT -5
my first impression, before i read everybody else's posts, is that i found this episode kind of disappointing, especially after the last two. it felt to me like this episode was kind of disjointed or scattered--like it didn't really hang together very well. it did again quite emphasize the recent themes of vengeance vs. justice and of actions/choices/etc. creating a ripple effect that comes back to people in unexpected ways (including affecting those surrounding the chooser) though.
do you think that the writers were so taken with kendall's character that they gave her a bigger part in the season than she'd ininitially been supposed to have? this episode had me wondering that, which i think is part of why i found it kind of disjointed--it didn't really feel like her ever-bigger role flowed very well, to me, from what we've seen of the character earlier in the season.
and, do you think jackie is being written off the show? or will the writers make her plans for the sorbonne somehow fall through?
it was nice to see more of weevil in this episode. i missed logan's presence in this one after his stronger presence in the last few. it's too bad there doesn't seem to be a way to have all the major characters have strong presences in all the episodes.
i still don't get why we're supposed to believe that duncan's hair was still in the drain at the penthouse. i also wonder where the oscar had been all this time!
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Post by artemis on Apr 19, 2006 11:30:24 GMT -5
Caption says, but V does not voice, "and a bummer for those forced to carry their contraband around with them all day" #rofl1#
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Post by Rob on Apr 19, 2006 11:58:03 GMT -5
my first impression, before i read everybody else's posts, is that i found this episode kind of disappointing, especially after the last two. it felt to me like this episode was kind of disjointed or scattered--like it didn't really hang together very well. it did again quite emphasize the recent themes of vengeance vs. justice and of actions/choices/etc. creating a ripple effect that comes back to people in unexpected ways (including affecting those surrounding the chooser) though. do you think that the writers were so taken with kendall's character that they gave her a bigger part in the season than she'd ininitially been supposed to have? this episode had me wondering that, which i think is part of why i found it kind of disjointed--it didn't really feel like her ever-bigger role flowed very well, to me, from what we've seen of the character earlier in the season. I don't think any of the original story has been changed. Pretty much every character on this show has often been shown to be considerably deeper than they appear. Dick Jr. has been one exception to that rule for the moment...but the season ain't over yet. Maybe the reason things feel disjointed is simple: Kendall/Priscilla is very good at what she does. She's been fooling both the characters and the audience at the same time. Which reminds me: Charisma Carpenter did a really nice job conveying the difference between the Kendall we've seen before and the one shown in her brief appearance this week. It was in her eyes; there was a lot more going on besides vapid gold-digging. There was...calculation, if that makes any sense.
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Post by Pixi on Apr 19, 2006 13:04:00 GMT -5
my first impression, before i read everybody else's posts, is that i found this episode kind of disappointing, especially after the last two. it felt to me like this episode was kind of disjointed or scattered--like it didn't really hang together very well. it did again quite emphasize the recent themes of vengeance vs. justice and of actions/choices/etc. creating a ripple effect that comes back to people in unexpected ways (including affecting those surrounding the chooser) though. do you think that the writers were so taken with kendall's character that they gave her a bigger part in the season than she'd ininitially been supposed to have? this episode had me wondering that, which i think is part of why i found it kind of disjointed--it didn't really feel like her ever-bigger role flowed very well, to me, from what we've seen of the character earlier in the season. I don't think any of the original story has been changed. Pretty much every character on this show has often been shown to be considerably deeper than they appear. Dick Jr. has been one exception to that rule for the moment...but the season ain't over yet. Maybe the reason things feel disjointed is simple: Kendall/Priscilla is very good at what she does. She's been fooling both the characters and the audience at the same time. Which reminds me: Charisma Carpenter did a really nice job conveying the difference between the Kendall we've seen before and the one shown in her brief appearance this week. It was in her eyes; there was a lot more going on besides vapid gold-digging. There was...calculation, if that makes any sense. I agree. Artemis - Rob Thomas and the writers had the entire season planned before it started. I do think there has been some tweaking here and there but I don't think anything major has been changed based on Rob's interviews (and he gives a lot of them) I do think Charisma has done a wonderful job with this character and I for one am relieved that she is more than just a gold-digging slam piece because what a lame role even if you do look good in a bikini. I'm glad her part has revealed layers and I think you are right Rob. she did an excellent job with her facial expressions.
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Post by artemis on Apr 19, 2006 13:41:05 GMT -5
Maybe the reason things feel disjointed is simple: Kendall/Priscilla is very good at what she does. She's been fooling both the characters and the audience at the same time. yes, that makes perfect sense to me, too. the abrupt change of tone between the last episode and this one left me feeling kind of "at sea" but after reading all the posts i am feeling a lot more grounded about it . i do think, now, that my feeling a few paces behind in this episode was supposed to mimic how veronica and keith were feeling. yes, this too makes perfect sense to me. all of a sudden the curtains are pulled back and we see what's really going on with her, at the same time as keith and veronica suddenly do. rob, was it you that talked about whether cassidy has figured everything out and is pulling one over on kendall in return? i have been wondering the same thing since i saw this episode. does cassidy really believe that she's just a pretty face (as he said to her a couple of episodes ago), or is he pretending that's all he thinks of her because he doesn't want to tip his hand to her that he's figured out at least some of the truth? are they perhaps both trying to play the other at the same time? after seeing this episode, i also wondered how kendall ended up so involved with liam. the fitzpatrick in jail for check fraud seems much more the type of criminal activity that she would be involved in, given what we learned about her character's criminal history in this episode, than the murders and drug running that liam seems to specialize in. did she somehow end up in over her head, or is this perhaps supposed to be a clue that we still don't know as much about her history as we now might think we do? so what's the secret house for?
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Post by artemis on Apr 19, 2006 13:45:01 GMT -5
I do think there has been some tweaking here and there but I don't think anything major has been changed based on Rob's interviews (and he gives a lot of them) unfortunately i haven't been keeping up as well with his interviews this season as i did last season. yes, and on this show it seems nobody is ever exactly what they seem to be. well, except maybe dick jr.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 19, 2006 16:48:15 GMT -5
Lavois is a bastard. Lovely. "Plus, I watch Animal Planet" Why ask about Duncan? Kendall?!? Huh. Yeah, I was wondering about capabilities, too, but I wouldn't underestimate her. By the end of the ep, I sure wasn't underestimating her. Even as psycho stalker or clueless bargaining chip, Mac is just too fun! ;D **snicker** Yup. I don't know if she's figured it all out, but she knows the general way things went.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 19, 2006 16:50:28 GMT -5
"Kendall's" daddy. "But I can see how you might get confused" hee! Oh! not a coup stick. Blackmail evidence. "Eli" "Sherrif" Now was that a sign of respect or a dig? Woohoo for Jackie!!! Guess who's at table eight... Wallace, you make me feel all gooey and stuff. Sorbonne!!! Sweet!!!! Who pays for it? And your hearts will already be broken if you've got this far. ah. it was a tracking bug, not a voice bug. She's not gonna catch it with a LeBaron if they run. Christ, a Claddagh ring. Crown Downward... "Taken" Huh. Dad's IN the house!!! That's not the same gun as was in the glove box earlier, is it? I thought it was a revolver, not a semi-auto. NOT the thing to say to Keith.. HAH! So Veronica stole the ammo.. SWEET!!!! My "Shift-command" hee! This ought to be interesting. Ah. Okay, this explains why he Harry wanted to find the car. And what he's practicing the archery for. Eli! "Oh, I did make copies: lots of them" Dead letter technique. Huh. He bails them out, then calls it "even" and leaves. Isn't interested in being a leader anymore. Huh. Cormac and Kendall connected. Heh. That's the true romantic idiot's answer. I so love Wallace. Heh.. Top hats and canes.. puttin' on the ritz. "Aaron's Oscar Statue" Oh, so that's why she was stealing the hair from the drain. Billy has much in the way of sense. and confronted with the nastiness of setting destruction into motion, she can't do it. Good. That would be bad You know, I didn't even grasp the whole "frame Duncan" thing with the hair and all until I was going to bed last night. Not at my brightest when watching this ep, I guess. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Apr 19, 2006 17:02:14 GMT -5
This one was a head-spinner, wasn't it? Quite a neat trick from Aaron, bribing Kendall...er...Priscilla...oh, the hell with it! For the rest of this post, she's Cordy. ;D I've been having the hardest time all season not calling her Cordy! One would think so, but his lawyer sure seems to be working hard to discredit Veronica and her dad. Add that to their apparent strategy of trying to throw enough confusion into the idea that he killed Lilly and, well, if you remove the idea that he killed Lilly then it casts doubt into people's minds about any kind of "motive" for trying to kill Veronica. Bleargh!! He could get away with it all!! Definitely more twisty than just a simple golddigger situation, isn't it? Plus, there's always the possibility that she was actually working a con with Big Dick. She was working him as a side deal? Thinking she'd find a way to get at his money now that he is virtually parentless? I'm really liking Jackie now too. But, if there's no money, then plans to attend school in Paris might fall by the wayside too. She may end up in college locally with the rest of them. **nods** We gotta fit Curly in there somewhere. And the only way I can find to make him fit is as a guy hired to do something and later killed because he was gonna talk. Veronica's name on him just seems to say he was on his way to give her information when they caught up with him.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 19, 2006 17:06:05 GMT -5
And, thanks to my crappy UPN affiliate, I TiVo'd 60 minutes of static. Or, is that a clue? Think I'll send them my enforcer. Nooooooooo!!! Do they repeat the ep tonight like they do on my station? Or Sunday night?
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Post by Karen on Apr 19, 2006 21:29:13 GMT -5
And, thanks to my crappy UPN affiliate, I TiVo'd 60 minutes of static. Or, is that a clue? Think I'll send them my enforcer. Nooooooooo!!! Do they repeat the ep tonight like they do on my station? Or Sunday night? Yes - both nights in Sharky's area - so he's hoping to catch it as long as his local affiliate is able to broadcast something besides static.
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