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Post by Karen on Jul 19, 2005 23:26:19 GMT -5
Well, they dumped a lot of material on us and left us not far from where we left off in season one. In other words, the writers know what they're doing. I intend on having a review posted when I can get the chance to write it; but, it may be a bit lol. Two jobs and a motorcycle in your living room is a little preoccupying.. #wavey# Hi havoc! This season looks to be quite a ride!
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Post by Karen on Jul 19, 2005 23:30:48 GMT -5
Okay, so I'm gonna try to keep up this season - what with it starting in summer, it's a good time to get used to it before all my returning shows, well, return. I thought this was more a "placeholder" episode than anything else. Not a lot going on, IMO. And, as Havoc said, they didn't move much beyond the end of last season. I'm gonna withhold judgement on whether it's good writing or not. As with (not a spoiler): I'm fairly certain, myself, that Adama isn't gonna die. Meaning that the dragging it out all episode and into at least the next one is a bit - much - for me. I've been through enough "He's in a coma/is he gonna make it?" plots in television to be not impressed or worried. I did wonder who the hell was doing the shooting, and also - am I the only one, when they're on their way back with the other med kit, and having the happy banter, and the camera is doing those isolated, from somewhat far away shots of each of them, who was thinking, "Dudes, one of you is totally about to die"? It was sort of a dead giveaway. Oh, yeah. You could see that one coming a mile away. There are people stranded all over the universe. There are people on Kobol, Caprica and on the ships jumped away from both planets. How will they bring them all together? Funny that you thought there wasn't much going on, when all I could think was that there was SO much going on, it was hard to keep track of it all.
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Post by havoc on Jul 19, 2005 23:32:28 GMT -5
Okay, so I'm gonna try to keep up this season - what with it starting in summer, it's a good time to get used to it before all my returning shows, well, return. I thought this was more a "placeholder" episode than anything else. Not a lot going on, IMO. And, as Havoc said, they didn't move much beyond the end of last season. I'm gonna withhold judgement on whether it's good writing or not. As with (not a spoiler): I'm fairly certain, myself, that Adama isn't gonna die. Meaning that the dragging it out all episode and into at least the next one is a bit - much - for me. I've been through enough "He's in a coma/is he gonna make it?" plots in television to be not impressed or worried. I did wonder who the hell was doing the shooting, and also - am I the only one, when they're on their way back with the other med kit, and having the happy banter, and the camera is doing those isolated, from somewhat far away shots of each of them, who was thinking, "Dudes, one of you is totally about to die"? It was sort of a dead giveaway. Placeholder? Maybe. The feeling I had coming away from it was that the episode was aired as though the cliffhanger aired last week. I commented to vlad after watching it that it seemed also that they might have filmed it and trimmed too much or something. But, I'm reserving judgement till my second watching, which will be in a few minutes. The Adama thing felt like maybe they played it long to give some backstory on him and Tigh. The backstory they told was intriguing - 'getting back into' the fleet? When and why were they out of the fleet seemed an appropriate question in demand of an answer. I didn't see it as overly dramatic, just as an excuse to tell some more of the story. And, no, you weren't the only one tagging the "red shirt" as it were LOL. Vlad and I noticed a little beyond that; but, saving that for the review
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Post by havoc on Jul 19, 2005 23:33:51 GMT -5
Well, they dumped a lot of material on us and left us not far from where we left off in season one. In other words, the writers know what they're doing. I intend on having a review posted when I can get the chance to write it; but, it may be a bit lol. Two jobs and a motorcycle in your living room is a little preoccupying.. Hi havoc! This season looks to be quite a ride! I would tend to agree. And Hi I kept wondering if they were going to have a good Baltar meltdown this ep; but, it wasn't to be.. maybe next one lol.
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Post by Rachael on Jul 21, 2005 18:58:48 GMT -5
Okay, so I'm gonna try to keep up this season - what with it starting in summer, it's a good time to get used to it before all my returning shows, well, return. I thought this was more a "placeholder" episode than anything else. Not a lot going on, IMO. And, as Havoc said, they didn't move much beyond the end of last season. I'm gonna withhold judgement on whether it's good writing or not. As with (not a spoiler): I'm fairly certain, myself, that Adama isn't gonna die. Meaning that the dragging it out all episode and into at least the next one is a bit - much - for me. I've been through enough "He's in a coma/is he gonna make it?" plots in television to be not impressed or worried. I did wonder who the hell was doing the shooting, and also - am I the only one, when they're on their way back with the other med kit, and having the happy banter, and the camera is doing those isolated, from somewhat far away shots of each of them, who was thinking, "Dudes, one of you is totally about to die"? It was sort of a dead giveaway. Placeholder? Maybe. The feeling I had coming away from it was that the episode was aired as though the cliffhanger aired last week. I commented to vlad after watching it that it seemed also that they might have filmed it and trimmed too much or something. But, I'm reserving judgement till my second watching, which will be in a few minutes. The Adama thing felt like maybe they played it long to give some backstory on him and Tigh. The backstory they told was intriguing - 'getting back into' the fleet? When and why were they out of the fleet seemed an appropriate question in demand of an answer. I didn't see it as overly dramatic, just as an excuse to tell some more of the story. Yeah; I guess I would have preferred working the backstory in another way, because it felt like you could see the strings, if you know what I mean. But then, Star Trek did that coma/flashback/exposition thing all the time. Joss has me spoiled, though.
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Post by havoc on Jul 21, 2005 23:18:51 GMT -5
Placeholder? Maybe. The feeling I had coming away from it was that the episode was aired as though the cliffhanger aired last week. I commented to vlad after watching it that it seemed also that they might have filmed it and trimmed too much or something. But, I'm reserving judgement till my second watching, which will be in a few minutes. The Adama thing felt like maybe they played it long to give some backstory on him and Tigh. The backstory they told was intriguing - 'getting back into' the fleet? When and why were they out of the fleet seemed an appropriate question in demand of an answer. I didn't see it as overly dramatic, just as an excuse to tell some more of the story. Yeah; I guess I would have preferred working the backstory in another way, because it felt like you could see the strings, if you know what I mean. But then, Star Trek did that coma/flashback/exposition thing all the time. Joss has me spoiled, though. Yep, I do know what you mean. My gut instinct on first showing is that this was a longer episode that was cut down for production reasons. After viewing it again, I feel even more like that was the case. If it was, that might explain some things. If not, I think they need a meeting. This episode has a lot in it; but, IMHO, it is not up to the level of season 1. Hoping episode 2 is a bit better.
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Post by Onjel on Jul 22, 2005 8:40:33 GMT -5
I have to say that I was one of those people who immediately thought back to the original series, with the cheesy looking Cylons and whatnot, when I heard about the new series being made. I watched it last night, for the very first time and was struck by the difference. A difference I like. It's pretty good! That is all. ;D I have the tapes from last season, if you want to catch up, Onjel. Oooh! Thanks! I might just have to take you up on this. ;D Now, I just have to make the time to watch.
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Post by Karen on Jul 23, 2005 9:29:11 GMT -5
Yeah; I guess I would have preferred working the backstory in another way, because it felt like you could see the strings, if you know what I mean. But then, Star Trek did that coma/flashback/exposition thing all the time. Joss has me spoiled, though. Yep, I do know what you mean. My gut instinct on first showing is that this was a longer episode that was cut down for production reasons. After viewing it again, I feel even more like that was the case. If it was, that might explain some things. If not, I think they need a meeting. This episode has a lot in it; but, IMHO, it is not up to the level of season 1. Hoping episode 2 is a bit better. Thanks for the review, havoc! I agree that the first episode was Tigh's episode. The exploration of his and Adama's relationship this season is what I'm going to be interested in - IF Adama lives. Will he continue to be loyal to Adama, or will it fall apart under pressure from Tigh's wife and the commanding of the Galactica. Because even though Tigh may say Adama is still in command, he really isn't - he's in a coma. I'm glad you brought up how Apollo has taken command of the situation with the Cylons. I hadn't thought of what that might mean. He seems to have stepped up with his father being out of commission and Kara being off-ship.
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Post by Lola m on Jul 24, 2005 13:24:08 GMT -5
Nice review, Havoc!
Bookmarker this ep is being called by many, and I'd agree. But I also say that a bookmarker or placeholder is just what was needed. Something to let us open up this universe and be reminded of where we are in the story - where all our characters are and why. And to point the direction that they are all going.
So Adama stays in his coma because this episode, as you point out, is Tigh's. Showing us more of his and Adama's past (tantalizing glimpses of how they got where they are now) and showing us just how much Tigh (despite his wife's ambition) does not/b] want to be in charge. Such touching (and telling) moments on the bridge where he just freezes - locks down, unable to move past the fact that Adama has been shot.
Eetahing you and everyone else who is wondering exactly who was doing the shooting on Kobol. If those were Cylons, I'll eat my hat! I think we're once again being pointed to look at something that will be a factor for the upcoming season.
The scenes with Boomer were also very interesting. Boomer continues to be such a . . . . different cylon. Even for the human-looking ones. She presents such a genuine appearance of not knowing what she is doing. Not really reacting like a cylon most of the time. And, acting as if the bad things she does are really a surprise to her as well. As if she is just suddenly compelled to do them and then totally lost. Which makes her fascinating and dangerous and a very interesting possibility.
Liked your ending - "Now what?"
'Cuz I think that's exactly the point this episode was designed to drive home.
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Post by havoc on Jul 24, 2005 14:09:54 GMT -5
Nice review, Havoc! Bookmarker this ep is being called by many, and I'd agree. But I also say that a bookmarker or placeholder is just what was needed. Something to let us open up this universe and be reminded of where we are in the story - where all our characters are and why. And to point the direction that they are all going. So Adama stays in his coma because this episode, as you point out, is Tigh's. Showing us more of his and Adama's past (tantalizing glimpses of how they got where they are now) and showing us just how much Tigh (despite his wife's ambition) does not/b] want to be in charge. Such touching (and telling) moments on the bridge where he just freezes - locks down, unable to move past the fact that Adama has been shot.
Eetahing you and everyone else who is wondering exactly who was doing the shooting on Kobol. If those were Cylons, I'll eat my hat! I think we're once again being pointed to look at something that will be a factor for the upcoming season.
The scenes with Boomer were also very interesting. Boomer continues to be such a . . . . different cylon. Even for the human-looking ones. She presents such a genuine appearance of not knowing what she is doing. Not really reacting like a cylon most of the time. And, acting as if the bad things she does are really a surprise to her as well. As if she is just suddenly compelled to do them and then totally lost. Which makes her fascinating and dangerous and a very interesting possibility.
Liked your ending - "Now what?"
'Cuz I think that's exactly the point this episode was designed to drive home.
Thank you. Boomer's seeming subliminal programming does continue to intrigue; but, I have to say that of all that went on, I enjoyed Tigh's part in this the most. As you said, seeing him freeze when he'd normally be right on things was interesting. It kinda lets you know point blank where his mind is. He's overwhelmed. Been there, done that, burnt the t-shirt. It's one of the things that really sells this show. The acting is brilliant. I was a little tough this time out - ok, a lot tough; but, it just didn't seem to answer the intensity of the cliffhanger. Having now seen ep 2, I'm much more pleased with it. And the 'Now what' turned to an "oh crap" - gonna enjoy writing that one...
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