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Post by Karen on Sept 10, 2005 10:43:00 GMT -5
So say we all.
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Post by Shan on Sept 11, 2005 10:49:30 GMT -5
I had suspicions about the reporter and wondered if there was a way of finding out whether we'd actually seen all 12 models yet. Then I thought...nah, that would be too obvious, making her either a Cylon or one of their agents. And yet...they did it anyway.
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Post by Lola m on Sept 11, 2005 12:22:00 GMT -5
I had suspicions about the reporter and wondered if there was a way of finding out whether we'd actually seen all 12 models yet. Then I thought...nah, that would be too obvious, making her either a Cylon or one of their agents. And yet...they did it anyway. **nods, nods** Like you and Onjel, they really got me by playing on my expectations. Expecting they'd not have it be a hatchet job, that it would turn out to be stirring and moving and all. And it was. So then, I'm like, OK, now we expect something with the reporter so they won't give it to us, just to be twisty.  ;D |
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Post by Shan on Sept 11, 2005 15:48:20 GMT -5
I had suspicions about the reporter and wondered if there was a way of finding out whether we'd actually seen all 12 models yet. Then I thought...nah, that would be too obvious, making her either a Cylon or one of their agents. And yet...they did it anyway. **nods, nods** Like you and Onjel, they really got me by playing on my expectations. Expecting they'd not have it be a hatchet job, that it would turn out to be stirring and moving and all. And it was. So then, I'm like, OK, now we expect something with the reporter so they won't give it to us, just to be twisty. ;D And also, did you ever hate a towel so much? |
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Post by Lola m on Sept 12, 2005 7:35:18 GMT -5
**nods, nods** Like you and Onjel, they really got me by playing on my expectations. Expecting they'd not have it be a hatchet job, that it would turn out to be stirring and moving and all. And it was. So then, I'm like, OK, now we expect something with the reporter so they won't give it to us, just to be twisty. ;D And also, did you ever hate a towel so much? Hate it. Want to be it. Hate it and wish it were gone. Worship it and want to change places. I tell you, it was an emotional rollercoaster.  |
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Post by Onjel on Sept 12, 2005 8:38:37 GMT -5
And also, did you ever hate a towel so much? Hate it. Want to be it. Hate it and wish it were gone. Worship it and want to change places. I tell you, it was an emotional rollercoaster. How did you capture the essence that was my thinking about that towel?  *sigh* *pictures towel and what was under it, goes again to happy place* ;D |
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Post by Karen on Sept 12, 2005 12:06:08 GMT -5
I had suspicions about the reporter and wondered if there was a way of finding out whether we'd actually seen all 12 models yet. Then I thought...nah, that would be too obvious, making her either a Cylon or one of their agents. And yet...they did it anyway. **nods, nods** Like you and Onjel, they really got me by playing on my expectations. Expecting they'd not have it be a hatchet job, that it would turn out to be stirring and moving and all. And it was. So then, I'm like, OK, now we expect something with the reporter so they won't give it to us, just to be twisty. ;D So, obviously (to me, and assume the IMO) the Cylons have been 'playing' the Galacitica and all the survivors all along. I have no doubt that if they truly wanted to 'kill' them all off, that they could've done it already. (Ok - I'm stating the obvious, huh?) The last scene, where the Cylon copies were sitting in a 'viewing' area - watching the humans as if they were in a play was especially creepifying. Reminded me a lot of the Star Trek episode "Plato's Stepchildren". Which makes me fear for Kara and her escape from Caprica - because if it was really all in the Cylon's 'plan' for her, I wonder what they have in store for her and her progeny. Oh, yeah. Six already told us - they're working on the destruction of mankind. Birth/rebirth kind of thing? I watched a bit of the old BSG this morning before work. The old Apollo, Starbuck and Boomer were quite yummy, too. More of an old west feel to their costumery. Especially Starbuck with his sidearm. It was actually a pretty funny scene that I watched. I'll have to check these old episodes out. Anyway......after hearing the theme music, I realized that that was the music playing during the Cylon documentary. I knew it sounded familiar, but couldn't put my finger on it at the time! So, whose idea was it to have the full-access documentary made?  |
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Post by Karen on Sept 12, 2005 12:08:00 GMT -5
Hate it. Want to be it. Hate it and wish it were gone. Worship it and want to change places. I tell you, it was an emotional rollercoaster. How did you capture the essence that was my thinking about that towel? *sigh* *pictures towel and what was under it, goes again to happy place* ;D EETAHING the TOWEL and all it managed to cover and uncover!  |
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Post by Sara on Sept 12, 2005 15:57:12 GMT -5
**nods, nods** Like you and Onjel, they really got me by playing on my expectations. Expecting they'd not have it be a hatchet job, that it would turn out to be stirring and moving and all. And it was. So then, I'm like, OK, now we expect something with the reporter so they won't give it to us, just to be twisty. ;D So, obviously (to me, and assume the IMO) the Cylons have been 'playing' the Galacitica and all the survivors all along. I have no doubt that if they truly wanted to 'kill' them all off, that they could've done it already. (Ok - I'm stating the obvious, huh?) The last scene, where the Cylon copies were sitting in a 'viewing' area - watching the humans as if they were in a play was especially creepifying. Reminded me a lot of the Star Trek episode "Plato's Stepchildren". Which makes me fear for Kara and her escape from Caprica - because if it was really all in the Cylon's 'plan' for her, I wonder what they have in store for her and her progeny. Oh, yeah. Six already told us - they're working on the destruction of mankind. Birth/rebirth kind of thing? I watched a bit of the old BSG this morning before work. The old Apollo, Starbuck and Boomer were quite yummy, too. More of an old west feel to their costumery. Especially Starbuck with his sidearm. It was actually a pretty funny scene that I watched. I'll have to check these old episodes out. Anyway......after hearing the theme music, I realized that that was the music playing during the Cylon documentary. I knew it sounded familiar, but couldn't put my finger on it at the time! So, whose idea was it to have the full-access documentary made? I got the impression from their first exchange that it was Roslin's idea. However... Once they revealed that D'Anna is a Cylon, I started wondering just how extensive this particular manipulation was. After all, Roslin only got the idea for the documentary after D'Anna's piece on the Gideon incident aired--before that, as Roslin noted, it was a firestorm that had finally shrunk down to embers. But once something than damning hits the airwaves it becomes only logical that the fleet and the government would be interested in damage control, and a full-access, warts-and-all documentary filmed by the very same person who'd stirred things up to begin with is the most obvious means by which to do that. And thus the Cylons get one of their people not only invited onto Galatica but also guaranteed the kind of access they'd need in order to find out if Sharon of Nine is still alive and great with child. Moreover, the timing of the Cylon attack becomes very interesting. Because without that firefight and its aftermath providing D'Anna with such an extensive and intense look at what the Galactica soldiers experience every day, no one on that ship or in the audience has any reason to believe D'Anna will produce such a fair and balanced piece of journalism. If D'Anna doesn't experience a Cylon fight first-hand, the admiration and empathy her closing words convey ring very, very hollow--to the point where you'd almost have to assume she did such a nice segment on Galactica merely because she's angling for a favor somewhere down the line. And that's not an attitude that's going to engender a lot of trust towards her. But because she was there for that battle her change of heart feels not only plausible but probable; her final tribute is only surprising in a "Huh. Good for her" way, and not in a "Where the HELL did that come from?" way. In other words, I strongly suspect that sending those Cylon ships after the Galactica at that time was, for the Cylons, akin to inducing one's opponent to take out one of your pawns in order to clear the way for you to move one of you stronger pieces into a more favorable position. And if the Cylons really are that canny and that good at predicting the humans' moves... well, it doesn't bode well for the Homo sapiens team. |
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Post by Lola m on Sept 12, 2005 16:32:56 GMT -5
So, obviously (to me, and assume the IMO) the Cylons have been 'playing' the Galacitica and all the survivors all along. I have no doubt that if they truly wanted to 'kill' them all off, that they could've done it already. (Ok - I'm stating the obvious, huh?) The last scene, where the Cylon copies were sitting in a 'viewing' area - watching the humans as if they were in a play was especially creepifying. Reminded me a lot of the Star Trek episode "Plato's Stepchildren". Which makes me fear for Kara and her escape from Caprica - because if it was really all in the Cylon's 'plan' for her, I wonder what they have in store for her and her progeny. Oh, yeah. Six already told us - they're working on the destruction of mankind. Birth/rebirth kind of thing? I watched a bit of the old BSG this morning before work. The old Apollo, Starbuck and Boomer were quite yummy, too. More of an old west feel to their costumery. Especially Starbuck with his sidearm. It was actually a pretty funny scene that I watched. I'll have to check these old episodes out. Anyway......after hearing the theme music, I realized that that was the music playing during the Cylon documentary. I knew it sounded familiar, but couldn't put my finger on it at the time! So, whose idea was it to have the full-access documentary made? I got the impression from their first exchange that it was Roslin's idea. However... Once they revealed that D'Anna is a Cylon, I started wondering just how extensive this particular manipulation was. After all, Roslin only got the idea for the documentary after D'Anna's piece on the Gideon incident aired--before that, as Roslin noted, it was a firestorm that had finally shrunk down to embers. But once something than damning hits the airwaves it becomes only logical that the fleet and the government would be interested in damage control, and a full-access, warts-and-all documentary filmed by the very same person who'd stirred things up to begin with is the most obvious means by which to do that. And thus the Cylons get one of their people not only invited onto Galatica but also guaranteed the kind of access they'd need in order to find out if Sharon of Nine is still alive and great with child. Moreover, the timing of the Cylon attack becomes very interesting. Because without that firefight and its aftermath providing D'Anna with such an extensive and intense look at what the Galactica soldiers experience every day, no one on that ship or in the audience has any reason to believe D'Anna will produce such a fair and balanced piece of journalism. If D'Anna doesn't experience a Cylon fight first-hand, the admiration and empathy her closing words convey ring very, very hollow--to the point where you'd almost have to assume she did such a nice segment on Galactica merely because she's angling for a favor somewhere down the line. And that's not an attitude that's going to engender a lot of trust towards her. But because she was there for that battle her change of heart feels not only plausible but probable; her final tribute is only surprising in a "Huh. Good for her" way, and not in a "Where the HELL did that come from?" way. In other words, I strongly suspect that sending those Cylon ships after the Galactica at that time was, for the Cylons, akin to inducing one's opponent to take out one of your pawns in order to clear the way for you to move one of you stronger pieces into a more favorable position. And if the Cylons really are that canny and that good at predicting the humans' moves... well, it doesn't bode well for the Homo sapiens team. This is so plausible that it is (as Karen said) extremely creepifying. |
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Post by Onjel on Sept 12, 2005 19:55:25 GMT -5
So, obviously (to me, and assume the IMO) the Cylons have been 'playing' the Galacitica and all the survivors all along. I have no doubt that if they truly wanted to 'kill' them all off, that they could've done it already. (Ok - I'm stating the obvious, huh?) The last scene, where the Cylon copies were sitting in a 'viewing' area - watching the humans as if they were in a play was especially creepifying. Reminded me a lot of the Star Trek episode "Plato's Stepchildren". Which makes me fear for Kara and her escape from Caprica - because if it was really all in the Cylon's 'plan' for her, I wonder what they have in store for her and her progeny. Oh, yeah. Six already told us - they're working on the destruction of mankind. Birth/rebirth kind of thing? I watched a bit of the old BSG this morning before work. The old Apollo, Starbuck and Boomer were quite yummy, too. More of an old west feel to their costumery. Especially Starbuck with his sidearm. It was actually a pretty funny scene that I watched. I'll have to check these old episodes out. Anyway......after hearing the theme music, I realized that that was the music playing during the Cylon documentary. I knew it sounded familiar, but couldn't put my finger on it at the time! So, whose idea was it to have the full-access documentary made? I got the impression from their first exchange that it was Roslin's idea. However... Once they revealed that D'Anna is a Cylon, I started wondering just how extensive this particular manipulation was. After all, Roslin only got the idea for the documentary after D'Anna's piece on the Gideon incident aired--before that, as Roslin noted, it was a firestorm that had finally shrunk down to embers. But once something than damning hits the airwaves it becomes only logical that the fleet and the government would be interested in damage control, and a full-access, warts-and-all documentary filmed by the very same person who'd stirred things up to begin with is the most obvious means by which to do that. And thus the Cylons get one of their people not only invited onto Galatica but also guaranteed the kind of access they'd need in order to find out if Sharon of Nine is still alive and great with child. Moreover, the timing of the Cylon attack becomes very interesting. Because without that firefight and its aftermath providing D'Anna with such an extensive and intense look at what the Galactica soldiers experience every day, no one on that ship or in the audience has any reason to believe D'Anna will produce such a fair and balanced piece of journalism. If D'Anna doesn't experience a Cylon fight first-hand, the admiration and empathy her closing words convey ring very, very hollow--to the point where you'd almost have to assume she did such a nice segment on Galactica merely because she's angling for a favor somewhere down the line. And that's not an attitude that's going to engender a lot of trust towards her. But because she was there for that battle her change of heart feels not only plausible but probable; her final tribute is only surprising in a "Huh. Good for her" way, and not in a "Where the HELL did that come from?" way. In other words, I strongly suspect that sending those Cylon ships after the Galactica at that time was, for the Cylons, akin to inducing one's opponent to take out one of your pawns in order to clear the way for you to move one of you stronger pieces into a more favorable position. And if the Cylons really are that canny and that good at predicting the humans' moves... well, it doesn't bode well for the Homo sapiens team. Oooooh! That's really good, and totally plausible. And creepy.  |
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Post by Karen on Sept 14, 2005 16:49:21 GMT -5
So, obviously (to me, and assume the IMO) the Cylons have been 'playing' the Galacitica and all the survivors all along. I have no doubt that if they truly wanted to 'kill' them all off, that they could've done it already. (Ok - I'm stating the obvious, huh?) The last scene, where the Cylon copies were sitting in a 'viewing' area - watching the humans as if they were in a play was especially creepifying. Reminded me a lot of the Star Trek episode "Plato's Stepchildren". Which makes me fear for Kara and her escape from Caprica - because if it was really all in the Cylon's 'plan' for her, I wonder what they have in store for her and her progeny. Oh, yeah. Six already told us - they're working on the destruction of mankind. Birth/rebirth kind of thing? I watched a bit of the old BSG this morning before work. The old Apollo, Starbuck and Boomer were quite yummy, too. More of an old west feel to their costumery. Especially Starbuck with his sidearm. It was actually a pretty funny scene that I watched. I'll have to check these old episodes out. Anyway......after hearing the theme music, I realized that that was the music playing during the Cylon documentary. I knew it sounded familiar, but couldn't put my finger on it at the time! So, whose idea was it to have the full-access documentary made? I got the impression from their first exchange that it was Roslin's idea. However... Once they revealed that D'Anna is a Cylon, I started wondering just how extensive this particular manipulation was. After all, Roslin only got the idea for the documentary after D'Anna's piece on the Gideon incident aired--before that, as Roslin noted, it was a firestorm that had finally shrunk down to embers. But once something than damning hits the airwaves it becomes only logical that the fleet and the government would be interested in damage control, and a full-access, warts-and-all documentary filmed by the very same person who'd stirred things up to begin with is the most obvious means by which to do that. And thus the Cylons get one of their people not only invited onto Galatica but also guaranteed the kind of access they'd need in order to find out if Sharon of Nine is still alive and great with child. Moreover, the timing of the Cylon attack becomes very interesting. Because without that firefight and its aftermath providing D'Anna with such an extensive and intense look at what the Galactica soldiers experience every day, no one on that ship or in the audience has any reason to believe D'Anna will produce such a fair and balanced piece of journalism. If D'Anna doesn't experience a Cylon fight first-hand, the admiration and empathy her closing words convey ring very, very hollow--to the point where you'd almost have to assume she did such a nice segment on Galactica merely because she's angling for a favor somewhere down the line. And that's not an attitude that's going to engender a lot of trust towards her. But because she was there for that battle her change of heart feels not only plausible but probable; her final tribute is only surprising in a "Huh. Good for her" way, and not in a "Where the HELL did that come from?" way. In other words, I strongly suspect that sending those Cylon ships after the Galactica at that time was, for the Cylons, akin to inducing one's opponent to take out one of your pawns in order to clear the way for you to move one of you stronger pieces into a more favorable position. And if the Cylons really are that canny and that good at predicting the humans' moves... well, it doesn't bode well for the Homo sapiens team. Oh, yeah. I like this! Which makes me wonder who the unpredictable human will be that will save the day? OR maybe it will be a Cylon. I need to rewatch because I want to know how the whole segment with Col. Tight fits into all of this. |
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