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Post by Onjel on Apr 14, 2006 21:09:22 GMT -5
Wow! The minion takes over. She's going to wipe his brain. OMG! She's even more evil than he is. Totally!! She was a joy to behold, she was. ;D ;D She was pretty good. The brain wipe is creepy though.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 14, 2006 21:09:50 GMT -5
Nah. She did it because he killed 200 men in a quixotic desire to have a pet dalek under his control. He'd done it to the guy at the beginning because the guy at the beginning was arguing with his ideas. I think Goddard's an improvement. Well, that's what she said, but I got a different vibe from her. Maybe it's just me, and you are probably right. Hey, I didn't say she wasn't ambitious as all hell! I just think she's gonna be a leetle less insane than whatsishead was. She's happy as heck that she got the Klingon-type promotion, and she's gonna make the best of it: but I rather like her, myself. Of course, I may be completely on crack.
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Post by Onjel on Apr 14, 2006 21:11:58 GMT -5
Well, that's what she said, but I got a different vibe from her. Maybe it's just me, and you are probably right. Hey, I didn't say she wasn't ambitious as all hell! I just think she's gonna be a leetle less insane than whatsishead was. She's happy as heck that she got the Klingon-type promotion, and she's gonna make the best of it: but I rather like her, myself. Of course, I may be completely on crack. LOL! She's no wallflower, that's for sure. Could be what you like, so it doesn't make you a crack-head, per se . . . ;D
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Post by Lola m on Apr 14, 2006 21:27:50 GMT -5
Totally!! She was a joy to behold, she was. ;D ;D She was pretty good. The brain wipe is creepy though. Very creepy! "A few days from now you'll be a homeless junkie"!
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Post by Rachael on Apr 14, 2006 23:03:12 GMT -5
"Someone's collecting aliens. That makes you Exhibit A." Does that strike anyone else as an incautious thing to say? I mean, dude looks human. Maybe he could have passed.
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Post by Rachael on Apr 14, 2006 23:38:45 GMT -5
It fixed itself. And now it knows everything. "The Daleks survive in me." That can't be good. Stop shootig and run away! They're dispensible but the Dalek isn't?! ?! ?! They should shoot this guy first and then get the Dalek! Holy crap!!! They solved the whole "stairs stop them" pertty dang effectively! (Heeeeeee on the scene - have them say all the things fans have said for years and then . . . make them eat those words! ;D ;D ;D ) Actually, they've been able to levitate for years. At least since the Sixth Doctor. I think it was him. Maybe Seventh. Plus, bad actor. Stiff as a board. And not in a good way. I wonder if it...well, the Daleks are all gone. It needs to make more if the race is to continue, right? It took something "genetic" from Rose to fix itself - if it doesn't mind adding some of her DNA to its own...maybe the folks in Salt Lake City have worse things to worry about than being electrocuted.
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Post by Rachael on Apr 15, 2006 0:03:28 GMT -5
Did the Dalek give something/put something in Rose when she touched it? T'other way 'round, huh? I find myself displeased with the ending. Mostly because...the last of a race, and now even that one is dead. Plus, I was hoping for more. The story was good, but I find myself dissatisfied, all the same.
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Post by Rachael on Apr 15, 2006 10:11:41 GMT -5
Still trying to work through my reactions to last night's episode. Thing is...I felt like it was leading somewhere it didn't go. I still do, sort of - it's leading to something bigger, later in the season.
Which has partly to do with having been told over and over how great this episode was - it was going to be nearly impossible to live up to that hype, unless the writers were Joss.
Right now, I'm watching primarily to see Christopher Eccleston act - he's wonderful, and I'd sit down to watch him (to use an already-overused cliche) read from the phone book.
I'm not saying, incidentally, that I thought it was a bad episode - I didn't. I really enjoyed most of it. But I guess I feel that it suffered from a lack of the action that usually makes Doctor Who fun. The writers seem to think they can do "character development" or "action" but not both in the same episode.
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Post by Karen on Apr 15, 2006 11:48:23 GMT -5
Yeah, that's right up there with "this ship is unsinkable" and "at least it can't get worse". ;D Brainshare!! And eetah! It so got out. Now they're in for it. How do they know it isn't this incident that starts the final Time War? Or all the Time Wars? I mean, maybe everything is circular, ya know?Could be. I was wondering about that. Of course, I've seen the last two episodes in the season, and I still don't know what happened. Me, too. I have been noticing all the references to what we find out at the end every once and a while. Of course, I still can't make out what it all means. I should go read Riff's analysis.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 15, 2006 20:58:35 GMT -5
It fixed itself. And now it knows everything. "The Daleks survive in me." That can't be good. Stop shootig and run away! They're dispensible but the Dalek isn't?! ?! ?! They should shoot this guy first and then get the Dalek! Holy crap!!! They solved the whole "stairs stop them" pertty dang effectively! (Heeeeeee on the scene - have them say all the things fans have said for years and then . . . make them eat those words! ;D ;D ;D ) Actually, they've been able to levitate for years. At least since the Sixth Doctor. I think it was him. Maybe Seventh. I'd heard about the levitating, but haven't seen any of the eps with them in. But I guess what I was thinking of was all the "back in the day" fan joking about the Daleks. That's where I thought it might be going as well. I mean, one answer to "I'm the only one left" is to, well, make more if you can.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Apr 16, 2006 10:11:40 GMT -5
Wow, lots of stuff in this episode.
I'm with whoever said that they think of daleks like the fear demon. Killing machine: not scary. Maybe as a civilization scary, but individually, #rofl1#
American actors playing the Americans? Or British with American accents?
Whoa, Rose, bad hair day, huh? Maybe the Doctor shouldn't have let you take your bag aboard.
"Bad Wolf"
I liked the curly haired chick
British science nerd as a mini-doctor
Chest of the Doctor! #liplick#
Torture is supposed to be scary, but whenever I see a torture scene, I think kinky.
I liked that they addressed the Dalek getting around stairs and such.
Good stuff about the Doctor vs Dalek conversations, Rose can be objective because she doesn't know the history.
I'm the last one. I won.
Why can't the science guy come along?
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Post by Riff on Apr 16, 2006 14:26:09 GMT -5
Stunning conversation between the Doctor and the Dalek.
We are the same. The writers have been playing with that idea ever since "Genesis of the Daleks". It may be that this season will resolve it. Whatever final act finished the Time War, the Doctor is responsible. He pushed the button, sending shockwaves through time and space, laying low higher species. He destroyed the Daleks, but took the Time Lords with them. The Doctor killed his entire race.
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Post by Riff on Apr 16, 2006 14:27:33 GMT -5
A Dalek is honest. The Dalek is better than this guy . . . After seeing what he's doing to both the Dalek and the Doctor, I gotta agree. Rose!! Don't save the Dalek, save the Doctor!!!! Do you fear me? You should fear it, Rose!!! Run!
Rose!!!!!! What you gonna do, sucker me to death? Well, yeah. This is what I tell people, but they won't listen.
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Post by Riff on Apr 16, 2006 14:28:22 GMT -5
Nothing can escape the cage. Famous last words. Oh Rose, Rose, Rose. Don't do it! She doesn't fear the Dalek. She should fear the Dalek. Is there anything I can do? OMG! Oh no! Bad news! Rose! What the hell have you done? It got out. And again!
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Post by Riff on Apr 16, 2006 14:30:47 GMT -5
Nothing can escape the cage. Famous last words. Yeah, that's right up there with "this ship is unsinkable" and "at least it can't get worse". ;D Brainshare!! And eetah! It so got out. Now they're in for it. How do they know it isn't this incident that starts the final Time War? Or all the Time Wars? I mean, maybe everything is circular, ya know?
Interesting idea. From what I can tell, the Time Wars transcended time itself. Casualities of the wars were removed from all time and space.
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