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Post by Lola m on Oct 6, 2006 19:54:14 GMT -5
Wow! Cool ending big fight thing. I like that it was actually a trap for the wolf thing. And another noble guy, dying for the rest of them. "My wife will remember me with honor." Ahh, did Vickie get bit? Is she hiding things? Hmmmmm?
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Oct 6, 2006 23:01:26 GMT -5
And, more importantly, when is Torchwood premiering? Is it going to be viewable in the US? I want Captain Jack Harkness!
Julia, hating this left-coastieness when I want to discuss things and almost everyone has gone to bed!
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Post by Rachael on Oct 7, 2006 13:05:34 GMT -5
Eh. I think it's clear that the weaker episodes are near the beginnings of the seasons. Nevertheless, some fun bits. "Don't do that. No. Just don't." ;D And I thought it very interesting that they're still going with "wolf" this season...plus the Torchwood thing. Is it all just advertising, or is it this season's "Bad Wolf"? And Dave and I were talking about which members of the royal family we suspected were werewolves five minutes before the Doctor and Rose were.
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Post by Shan on Oct 7, 2006 13:28:20 GMT -5
Eh. I think it's clear that the weaker episodes are near the beginnings of the seasons. Nevertheless, some fun bits. "Don't do that. No. Just don't." ;D And I thought it very interesting that they're still going with "wolf" this season...plus the Torchwood thing. Is it all just advertising, or is it this season's "Bad Wolf"? And Dave and I were talking about which members of the royal family we suspected were werewolves five minutes before the Doctor and Rose were. Hee! Yeah, I liked that "Don't do that" bit, too. I didn't realize that David Tennant was actually Scottish until quite a bit later when I read his bio. I just thought he did an amazingly good Scottish accent. Turns out it's his English accent that's amazingly good. I didn't like the very mild reaction to Rose's clothes, though. These were people who covered up piano legs, remember?
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Post by Rachael on Oct 7, 2006 13:32:12 GMT -5
Eh. I think it's clear that the weaker episodes are near the beginnings of the seasons. Nevertheless, some fun bits. "Don't do that. No. Just don't." ;D And I thought it very interesting that they're still going with "wolf" this season...plus the Torchwood thing. Is it all just advertising, or is it this season's "Bad Wolf"? And Dave and I were talking about which members of the royal family we suspected were werewolves five minutes before the Doctor and Rose were. Hee! Yeah, I liked that "Don't do that" bit, too. I didn't realize that David Tennant was actually Scottish until quite a bit later when I read his bio. I just thought he did an amazingly good Scottish accent. Turns out it's his English accent that's amazingly good. I didn't like the very mild reaction to Rose's clothes, though. These were people who covered up piano legs, remember? The husband and wife kissed each other in front of other people, on the mouth, repeatedly. I was all with the objections and piano-leg examples.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 7, 2006 17:20:41 GMT -5
They want the house. Ooh, ninja monks!! With Matrix moves!!! What's in the box under the sheet?! the 70s. antigrav olympics. Cool. China invaded Vietnam in '79? 1879. Of course. Horrible Scottish accents. Queen Victoria. Trying to get the Queen to say "we are not amused." Hee. Torchwood estate. The endeavor. A telescope. Argh, I only remember the US history of telescopes. Is this historically accurate? Wolf... like the Bad Wolf? The Queen on ghost stories. meta commentary. Yep, it's about the Bad Wolf. About the Doctor's accent. This is not my world. Mistletoe. Hmm... Druidic lore. Recutting the perfect stone. She said it!!! Hee. No thanks for the saviors. Queen Victoria and hemophelia. But did they really not know how it was passed on to her? I don't remember that being any sort of mystery. Founding of the Torchwood Institute. Ah. Founded so Earth can defend itself from the Doctor. Good establishment of mood in this episode. Queen Victoria rocks.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 7, 2006 17:29:11 GMT -5
Just looked it up, and indeed one of the oldest uses of mistletoe is as a ward against werewolves. Huh. Learn something new every day. And I vaguely remember something more about mistletoe having some other mystical thing. Like . . . it was supposedly a weapon against . . . you made a weapon out of it or . . . Dang. Can't remember. Are you thinking of this? Because this is what first occurred to me, thanks to having read Asterix books. (from www.candlegrove.com/mistletoe.html)Mistletoe was used by the Druid priesthood in a very special ceremony held around this time...five days after the New Moon following winter solstice, to be precise. The Druid priests would cut mistletoe from a holy oak tree with a golden sickle. The branches had to be caught before they touched the ground. The priest then divided the branches into many sprigs and distributed them to the people, who hung them over doorways as protection against thunder, lightning and other evils. The folklore, and the magical powers of this plant, blossomed over the centuries A sprig placed in a baby's cradle would protect the child from faeries. Giving a sprig to the first cow calving after New Year would protect the entire herd. And so forth.
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Post by Shan on Oct 7, 2006 19:49:48 GMT -5
And I vaguely remember something more about mistletoe having some other mystical thing. Like . . . it was supposedly a weapon against . . . you made a weapon out of it or . . . Dang. Can't remember. Are you thinking of this? Because this is what first occurred to me, thanks to having read Asterix books. (from www.candlegrove.com/mistletoe.html)Mistletoe was used by the Druid priesthood in a very special ceremony held around this time...five days after the New Moon following winter solstice, to be precise. The Druid priests would cut mistletoe from a holy oak tree with a golden sickle. The branches had to be caught before they touched the ground. The priest then divided the branches into many sprigs and distributed them to the people, who hung them over doorways as protection against thunder, lightning and other evils. The folklore, and the magical powers of this plant, blossomed over the centuries A sprig placed in a baby's cradle would protect the child from faeries. Giving a sprig to the first cow calving after New Year would protect the entire herd. And so forth. I've read also that the red and white berries (and their juice) were symbolic of the red blood of the mother goddess and the white...er...of the father god, and so therefore very powerful due to the combination of the strongest and most basic of both the female and male aspects of life.
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Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Oct 7, 2006 21:53:14 GMT -5
They want the house. Ooh, ninja monks!! With Matrix moves!!! What's in the box under the sheet?! the 70s. antigrav olympics. Cool. China invaded Vietnam in '79? 1879. Of course. Horrible Scottish accents. Queen Victoria. Trying to get the Queen to say "we are not amused." Hee. Torchwood estate. The endeavor. A telescope. Argh, I only remember the US history of telescopes. Is this historically accurate? Wolf... like the Bad Wolf? The Queen on ghost stories. meta commentary. Yep, it's about the Bad Wolf. About the Doctor's accent. This is not my world. Mistletoe. Hmm... Druidic lore. Recutting the perfect stone. She said it!!! Hee. No thanks for the saviors. Queen Victoria and hemophelia. But did they really not know how it was passed on to her? I don't remember that being any sort of mystery. Founding of the Torchwood Institute. Ah. Founded so Earth can defend itself from the Doctor. Good establishment of mood in this episode. Queen Victoria rocks. My memory, from decades ago, is that the assumption has always been that hemophilia was a new mutation with Victoria as no relatives in her line had ever shown it before. If it was any other disorder I'd say "wise child who knows her own father" and let it go, but prior to this century it was rare for male hemophiliacs to live to adulthood, and a spontaneous mutation may well be more probable. Julia, in any case, it was a disasterous thing to pass down
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Post by Lola m on Oct 8, 2006 19:56:55 GMT -5
And I vaguely remember something more about mistletoe having some other mystical thing. Like . . . it was supposedly a weapon against . . . you made a weapon out of it or . . . Dang. Can't remember. Are you thinking of this? Because this is what first occurred to me, thanks to having read Asterix books. (from www.candlegrove.com/mistletoe.html)Mistletoe was used by the Druid priesthood in a very special ceremony held around this time...five days after the New Moon following winter solstice, to be precise. The Druid priests would cut mistletoe from a holy oak tree with a golden sickle. The branches had to be caught before they touched the ground. The priest then divided the branches into many sprigs and distributed them to the people, who hung them over doorways as protection against thunder, lightning and other evils. The folklore, and the magical powers of this plant, blossomed over the centuries A sprig placed in a baby's cradle would protect the child from faeries. Giving a sprig to the first cow calving after New Year would protect the entire herd. And so forth. Ah, thank you so much for the link!! Yes, Loki's arrow made of mistletoe was exactly what I was thinking of! Whew. I'm always happy when it turns out I wasn't totally imagining something.
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