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Post by Sara on Dec 20, 2006 16:51:49 GMT -5
Part IV Heh. The Doctor carrying the torch. That was wonderful. Cheesy and dorky and yet awwwwww as well. **nods** Thump, thump, I hear foreshadow-y boots falling all over the place. Huh. Really? I don't get that vibe at all...
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Post by Rachael on Dec 20, 2006 18:49:12 GMT -5
Huh. The Doctor is a Trekkie. Who knew? And I'm with Rose, I have to say. I want to give the alien a good spanking. It doesn't help that I find the actress playing Chloe completely annoying, and the whispery breath voice of the aliens entirely stupid as a directorial choice, either....
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Post by Rachael on Dec 20, 2006 18:59:21 GMT -5
That must have been one hell of a coverup, yeah? To make the people not remember that 80,000 people disappeared on the day the torch was lit?
Finally, a little keen observiness of my own: all of Rose's foreshadowing is one thing, but there's something else in there, a tad more subtle. All season long, she's been afraid of being left behind. It happened again in this episode - everyone BUT the Doctor reappeared.
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Post by Onjel on Dec 20, 2006 22:07:08 GMT -5
Huh. The Doctor is a Trekkie. Who knew? And I'm with Rose, I have to say. I want to give the alien a good spanking. It doesn't help that I find the actress playing Chloe completely annoying, and the whispery breath voice of the aliens entirely stupid as a directorial choice, either.... Yeah. The whispery voice annoyed me too. As did the spoiled brat behavior of the alien. *keeping quiet as to the rest so as not to spoil.*
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Post by Lola m on Dec 21, 2006 8:23:27 GMT -5
Part II The Doctor can mind meld? Or something? Shadow proclamation. Car crash. Hmm. Rose and Doctor differ on the isolus. Doctor was a dad once. Rose knows so little about him, really. Time Lords have limited telepathic abilities. The most interesting example of this is what has become known in fandom as Doctor's Orders. He seems to have the ability (though he's loathe to use it) of simply telling people what to do, and they obey without question. It was seen in the last season when he orders a group of suspicious soldiers into action in "The Aliens of London" or when he stops Jackie in full flow in "Father's Day" and she meekly obeys him. But the most notable instance is probably from the classic series, when the Seventh Doctor walks into the middle of a battlefield and simply orders everyone to stop fighting. This ability has never been openly discussed in the show, and is only used rarely. Interesting, though. I've never really thought of it that way . . . . interesting!
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Post by Lola m on Dec 21, 2006 8:25:22 GMT -5
That must have been one hell of a coverup, yeah? To make the people not remember that 80,000 people disappeared on the day the torch was lit? Sunnydale syndrome on a massive scale, for sure. ;D Oooooh, that's a very intriguing observation there.
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Post by Rachael on Dec 21, 2006 9:55:25 GMT -5
Time Lords have limited telepathic abilities. The most interesting example of this is what has become known in fandom as Doctor's Orders. He seems to have the ability (though he's loathe to use it) of simply telling people what to do, and they obey without question. It was seen in the last season when he orders a group of suspicious soldiers into action in "The Aliens of London" or when he stops Jackie in full flow in "Father's Day" and she meekly obeys him. But the most notable instance is probably from the classic series, when the Seventh Doctor walks into the middle of a battlefield and simply orders everyone to stop fighting. This ability has never been openly discussed in the show, and is only used rarely. Interesting, though. I've never really thought of it that way . . . . interesting! I actually thought the "fingers on lips!" thing was a minor example of that, too.
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Post by Riff on Dec 22, 2006 13:59:13 GMT -5
True, but how can that level of subtlety possibly be repeated? ;D Uh-huh. I'm resigned to the fact that something awful involving Rose is gonna happen, but I've managed to keep from being spoiled about it, which is hard when the entire series has aired somewhere else already. I just hope they can refrain from killing her. I mean, it's a kids' show...no need to kill the teenager. It's not like she's Adric. But any number of things short of killing her will still result in emotional damage to the Doctor, which I suspect is the goal.... How can I possibly answer that one without being spoilery? I'll just stroke my chin thoughtfully and not give anything away.
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Post by Riff on Dec 22, 2006 14:03:14 GMT -5
Huh. The Doctor is a Trekkie. Who knew? And I'm with Rose, I have to say. I want to give the alien a good spanking. It doesn't help that I find the actress playing Chloe completely annoying, and the whispery breath voice of the aliens entirely stupid as a directorial choice, either.... I agree on both counts. I mean, it is possible to find child actors that aren't annoying, especially now.
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Post by Riff on Dec 22, 2006 14:08:09 GMT -5
That must have been one hell of a coverup, yeah? To make the people not remember that 80,000 people disappeared on the day the torch was lit? Finally, a little keen observiness of my own: all of Rose's foreshadowing is one thing, but there's something else in there, a tad more subtle. All season long, she's been afraid of being left behind. It happened again in this episode - everyone BUT the Doctor reappeared. Someone (I can't remember who) said that, even in our happiest moments, we're sad because we know the happiness can't last forever. Rose is either in that state or in denial about it. Also, as Queen Victoria noted, the Doctor and Rose seem to take far too much pleasure from some of the catastrophes they're involved with...
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Post by Riff on Dec 22, 2006 14:10:42 GMT -5
Time Lords have limited telepathic abilities. The most interesting example of this is what has become known in fandom as Doctor's Orders. He seems to have the ability (though he's loathe to use it) of simply telling people what to do, and they obey without question. It was seen in the last season when he orders a group of suspicious soldiers into action in "The Aliens of London" or when he stops Jackie in full flow in "Father's Day" and she meekly obeys him. But the most notable instance is probably from the classic series, when the Seventh Doctor walks into the middle of a battlefield and simply orders everyone to stop fighting. This ability has never been openly discussed in the show, and is only used rarely. Interesting, though. I've never really thought of it that way . . . . interesting! Thank you. Also, whenever the Doctor's various selves have met up, they've always linked themselves telepathically. None of this has ever been examined or discussed in canon, though; it's simply been shown.
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Post by Riff on Dec 22, 2006 14:14:10 GMT -5
I've never really thought of it that way . . . . interesting! I actually thought the "fingers on lips!" thing was a minor example of that, too. It was! When one stops to think about it, there are probably many examples. How on earth does he manage to persuade total strangers to take him seriously, anyway? The fact that the question, "Erm, why are you dressed like that?" rarely comes up must have some explanation. ;D
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