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Post by beccaelizabeth on Jul 4, 2004 17:47:03 GMT -5
Nothing in canon; in one of the Tales of the Slayer stories there's a Slayer who made it to 30, but that's not canon. Buffy: “Yeah, but you’re an amateur – fry cook and I come from a long line of fry cooks that don’t live past 25.” (Doomed) so somewhat contradicted by canon
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Post by Rachael on Jul 5, 2004 9:59:36 GMT -5
Buffy: “Yeah, but you’re an amateur – fry cook and I come from a long line of fry cooks that don’t live past 25.” (Doomed) so somewhat contradicted by canon Sure, but that can't possibly be intended to indicate that Buffy knew the lifespan of every Slayer there ever was. It was Season 5 before she even started taking an active interest in the history of the Slayer. I think canon is deliberately vague about which Slayers might have lived the longest - except that we are to assume that Buffy is one of the more successful among them.
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Post by Lissa on Aug 5, 2004 4:27:01 GMT -5
Heartbroken at the loss of his friend, Xander’s seemingly flip comments do little to hide his terrible grief. Now he transfers that unwavering loyalty to Buffy. We will have reason time and again to celebrate that Buffy chooses her friends so well. I think this is why Buffy is the most successfull Slayer and her greatest strength. She surrounds herself with the best people she can get. (Not everybody is welcome in the gang).
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Post by Linda on Aug 23, 2004 1:10:33 GMT -5
The Harvest; a Long Way to Go Looking Back Part II ”Who do you kill around here for fun?" Continuing my review of this, the first episodes series in reverse perspective. The beginning—as seen from the end. <snipped for space> However, here is also where we learn how well Buffy has chosen her new friends. Willow, so shy and sweet and helpless appearing. Now for the first time we learn is how invaluable Willow will become in computer and book research. A scene in the computer lab gives us foreshadowing of the confidence she will gain from her association with Buffy and even the first hint of the darkness that lurks deep beneath the Peter Pan collars and corduroy jumpers.<snipped for space> “From now on, we're gonna have a little less ritual...and a little more fun around here.” And we do. Hi Diane! Another great review / retrospective. And for some reason, after reading your review, I seem to be looking forward to the third episode of season 2. ;D I just wanted to mention that I see Willow's *sweet* little "Deliver" revenge on Cordy as a defense/retaliation on behalf of Buffy and herself. A sign of Willow's self-confidence, but not so much some darker power-play. IMO, it was up front and proportional. I actually believe that Cordy may have even gained some respect for Willow. She didn't seem to hold a grudge against her for it. Although it is kinda hard to tell, since she was so mean to Willow from the get-go. I agree, however, with those who posted that Willow's hacking of the city plans is an ominous foreshadowing of her character's future development. Willow's darker side seems to me to manifest itself as hidden and secretive so that she doesn't need to adhere to the constrictive rules that she feels obliged to follow in public. Linda, only caught up by two episodes this weekend
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jun 17, 2005 20:42:24 GMT -5
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Post by Lola m on Jun 19, 2005 17:05:56 GMT -5
Liked your list of the things that work in this ep. One of the things that really struck me when re-watching with a purpose last summer (taking notes, paying attention, etc.) is how much of season one does work for me. I think sometimes I blow season one off a bit in my own head. It was a partial season, it contains all those awkward bits that can happen when a show first begins and we are being introduced to everything. Many shows that you’ve watched and enjoyed for years look . . . young and gawky when you go back to the first eps. Things seem so telegraphed – so “introduce this character, now have someone explain what’s going on, now make sure the audience understands why these people are here, etc.”. But much more works in these first eps than I sometimes remember. The opening teaser with Darla (like the later slightly slo-mo shot of her skipping towards the Bronze, a schoolgirl come to kill everyone she can get her fangs on) is, as you say, a great hook. I loved your point about how Joss really goes after that “little blonde girl” sterotype in so many way. She doesn’t just go into the dark alley and kick the monster’s ass, she might find that the monster is another little blond girl. We’re not gonna have just a simple swap. (And yay for that!) I really liked how you describe Buffy as the bridge between Willow and Cordelia – between them as far as characterization and also bringing them together – a “working relationship” as they eventually all come together to fight demons. I’ve never looked at it that way before and it is very true. Nice point about the camera pan that should indicate to us that the Master is beneath them – foreshadowing the hellmouth beneath the school. Which of course makes me circle back around to season 7 and TFE. Everything is beneath them. (Just as Spike is beneath Cecily and then Buffy – recurring theme, much? ;D ) Much snickering over your comment that the Buffy line “I didn't say I'd never slay another vampire. It's not like I have all these fluffy bunny feelings for them, I'm just not gonna get way extracurricular with it. You know, if I see one, sure I'll...” is so ironic coming right after meeting Angel – soon to the the cause of many fluffy bunny feelings. I have to add that she’s also gonna get a bit extracurricular with him, with unintented consecquences. #smirk# Interesting thoughts! I look forward to working my way through all your LJ episode commentaries. Lola
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Post by jeff on Mar 31, 2007 12:46:26 GMT -5
Ah the first computer clutch! I love how they can access all this info in the computer. LOL
I liked watching the first time Xander was all gung ho about helping Buffy go after Jessie, I like the way he stays true to his nature the entire series. He never cared if it was dangerous, he always thought he could help, and never hesitated to go into the worst situations.
You also have Buffy trying to protect him, thus the ongoing relationship between the two of them. Buffy trying to protect Xander, yet she would need him all throughout the series, because without him she would not have achieved everything she did. The fact that he didnt have extraordinary strength even makes him more of a hero to me, he is just your average joe, willing to do what it takes to help his friends.
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Post by jeff on Mar 31, 2007 12:52:33 GMT -5
I really dont like Angel being all cryptic in the first 2 episodes. Just seems like a waste of time to be so cryptic.
also if Xander followed Buffy, I find it interesting he didnt run into Angel, I mean it was Daylight , Angel was in the mosolium (sp?). Yet Xander had to come that way, So where did Angel go? Did he just hide and watch? This bothers me as well.
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Post by jeff on Mar 31, 2007 12:53:51 GMT -5
Again Cordy being very mean to Willow but again she was around her friends. Just showing the cool/nerd part of highschool. But Willow gets a little payback with "how do you save it?"
"Deliver." ROFL
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Post by jeff on Mar 31, 2007 12:56:43 GMT -5
OK, did anyone else notice just how fast Jessie turned into a vampire, I mean he was going to be a meal, then he was upgraded to Bait, then Buffy and Xander were trying to save him and BAM! He is a vampire. Love the early years before you knew all about the actual process of becoming a vamp. That would not have went over in year 3 thru 7 IMO.
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Post by jeff on Mar 31, 2007 12:59:23 GMT -5
Super human strength , Yet she needed Xander to help her close the door in the tunnels. Also Xander pulling Buffy up from the Tunnels. Joss really set forth from the beginning how much Buffy would need Xanders help to make it through.
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Post by jeff on Mar 31, 2007 13:03:48 GMT -5
So I could never remember how the Master wound up down there, I never noticed Willow telling Giles about the rash of murders right before the Earthquake of 37, so the Master was in Sunnydale then. The earthquake happened and he was trapped in the church.?
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Post by jeff on Mar 31, 2007 13:09:55 GMT -5
"If you dont go out its the end of the World." I love the fact that Joyce said that as a sort of way to undermine what she is going through, its just a great way of showing how the parents just dont understand.
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Post by jeff on Mar 31, 2007 13:24:59 GMT -5
Xanders first kill was his best friend, his distaste for vampires started from this episode, and never extinguished.
Line of the Episode for me. "The Earth is Doomed." Giles. Great way to end the episode on a light note, after the death of Jessie. It said we are going to have death and destruction, but we are going to have fun too dammit! I loved the ending , I loved the entire episode.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 8, 2007 11:36:19 GMT -5
"If you dont go out its the end of the World." I love the fact that Joyce said that as a sort of way to undermine what she is going through, its just a great way of showing how the parents just dont understand. **nods** I tend to forget that season one has subtle versions of the "hellmouth and demons as metaphor for the horrors of teen years and high school". The obvious ones jump out at you in season one, but there are more layers than you see at first.
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