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Post by William the Bloody on Jun 6, 2003 3:47:21 GMT -5
Let the discussion begin!
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Post by Linda on Jan 1, 2004 17:30:49 GMT -5
Dear Spring, I have always meant to comment on how insightful your Spikecentric reviews have been, and how much I enjoy reading them. My comments for ALL of your reviews so far would be: Wow. Cool. I never noticed that... THANK YOU! However, for School Hard, I just wanted to give you an example about how much you influenced my enjoyment of the series... I went looking for "Stupid Thing" by Nickel. It is kinda hard to find. I had to take a chance and order the CD from a company I don't recognize online. I never do that. But I wanted a song to commemorate the first momentous meeting between Buffy and Spike. A meeting whose consequences no one, not even JW, could forsee. Thanks for pointing out the (possibly unintentional) prophetic lyrics. I thought you would be curious to know the full lyrics (as near as I can tell from listening): I did a stupid thing last night I called you A moment of weakness No, not a moment More like three months of weakness. I'm one step away from crashin' to my knees One step away from spillin' my guts to you I did a stupid thing last night I called you I'm doin' alright No, don't feel sorry for me Really, I'm all right. I'm one step away from crashin' to my knees One step away from spillin' my guts to you You see, There's this huge chunk of me missing It's gone, But I can feel it I can feel it I can feel itI did a stupid thing last night I called you This is the last time And maybe tomorrow might be the last time I'm one step away from crashin' to my knees One step away from spillin' my guts to you ... Huh, substitute "years" for months in the song and maybe we have a season 5 prophecy... In any case, THANK YOU! for your reviews. I look forward to them and love to read them and think about them. And the smile on my face is for the intellectual thrill and has nothing to do with the spicy extras... Linda, who is trying to be better at letting people know about how much I appreciate what they do
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Post by SpringSummers on Jan 1, 2004 22:38:35 GMT -5
Dear Spring, I have always meant to comment on how insightful your Spikecentric reviews have been, and how much I enjoy reading them. My comments for ALL of your reviews so far would be: Wow. Cool. I never noticed that... THANK YOU! Thank you! For letting me know. Well - I think the lyrics intentionally described Spike and the possibilities ahead . . . but I doubt Joss had it very well formed beyond that. Thanks - I had never heard all the lyrics. Very appropriate! Yes. It is a purely intellectual exercise for me, too. And you are doing a good job. Thanks again.
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Tesla
Junior S'cubie
the ice is getting thinner
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Post by Tesla on Feb 16, 2004 10:20:29 GMT -5
I was watching this last night (2/15/04), when I was startled by Spike saying to Drusilla, "Tell Daddy."
Now, considering that, even in Season 2, we were about to find out that Angel was Dru's sire and incestuous Daddy, it was suddenly interesting to me to hear TEXTSpikeTEXT call himself Dru's "Daddy". He had managed to insinuate himself in the forefront of her mind...of course, only to have Angelus return and take over.
I go back to look for the lack of JM's underwear. Damn this lit. crit. background!
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 16, 2004 13:52:41 GMT -5
I was watching this last night (2/15/04), when I was startled by Spike saying to Drusilla, "Tell Daddy." Now, considering that, even in Season 2, we were about to find out that Angel was Dru's sire and incestuous Daddy, it was suddenly interesting to me to hear TEXTSpike TEXT call himself Dru's "Daddy". He had managed to insinuate himself in the forefront of her mind...of course, only to have Angelus return and take over. I go back to look for the lack of JM's underwear. Damn this lit. crit. background! Yes - Angel had been gone from Spike and Dru's lives for many years by the time we get to SchoolHard . . . Spike is Dru's lover and her caretaker. And don't let your lit-crit background get in the way of the fun to be had keeping a close eye on those black jeans.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Oct 9, 2004 1:48:54 GMT -5
Not only do they "take over their worlds," as you describe above, Spring, but by the end of the episode, together Spike and Buffy have completely turned the forces of evil on its head (Buffy killed the Master. Spike set up the Annoying One's Second-in-Command to be killed by Buffy outside the Bronze, set up several more vampires to be killed by Buffy through his poorly planned attack on the school, and killed the Annoying One. By the end of the episode, the Master's treasured Order of Aurelius, which was supposed to be all that for centuries, is essentially no more. The remaining scattered minions gravitate towards the resident Big Bad Spike-->Angel-->the Mayor-->preyed upon by initiative-->no one?. By season 5, vampires are hardly the worst threat.
Similarly, through the course of the series Buffy has "taken over her world" by turning the way the forces of good are structured on its head (from a Watchers Council with rigid rules and one slayer being "the tool by which the Council fights," to an extended Scooby Gang and many empowered Slayers). Thanks to the their combined efforts, the Buffyverse looks very different at the end of the series than it did at the beginning.
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Post by SpringSummers on Oct 10, 2004 0:21:58 GMT -5
Not only do they "take over their worlds," as you describe above, Spring, but by the end of the episode, together Spike and Buffy have completely turned the forces of evil on its head (Buffy killed the Master. Spike set up the Annoying One's Second-in-Command to be killed by Buffy outside the Bronze, set up several more vampires to be killed by Buffy through his poorly planned attack on the school, and killed the Annoying One. By the end of the episode, the Master's treasured Order of Aurelius, which was supposed to be all that for centuries, is essentially no more. The remaining scattered minions gravitate towards the resident Big Bad Spike-->Angel-->the Mayor-->preyed upon by initiative-->no one?. By season 5, vampires are hardly the worst threat. Similarly, through the course of the series Buffy has "taken over her world" by turning the way the forces of good are structured on its head (from a Watchers Council with rigid rules and one slayer being "the tool by which the Council fights," to an extended Scooby Gang and many empowered Slayers). Thanks to the their combined efforts, the Buffyverse looks very different at the end of the series than it did at the beginning. Oh - I love this overview. Never really looked at it from that angle, exactly. I like the extra illumination, thank you!
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