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Apr 8, 2009 21:22:52 GMT -5
Post by Sue on Apr 8, 2009 21:22:52 GMT -5
Whew!
I was so afraid it was going to end on a cliff-hanger with Crewes in Roman's clutches.
Excellent semi-tie-up of current storylines in case it isn't renewed.
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Apr 8, 2009 23:54:40 GMT -5
Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Apr 8, 2009 23:54:40 GMT -5
Whew! I was so afraid it was going to end on a cliff-hanger with Crewes in Roman's clutches. Excellent semi-tie-up of current storylines in case it isn't renewed. It's a good thing you posted that, because otherwise I'd be hiding in the bathroom right now. "What was his point getting in that SUV?" Julia, Eeek to the eek eek!!!
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Apr 9, 2009 3:04:31 GMT -5
Post by Sue on Apr 9, 2009 3:04:31 GMT -5
Whew! I was so afraid it was going to end on a cliff-hanger with Crewes in Roman's clutches. Excellent semi-tie-up of current storylines in case it isn't renewed. It's a good thing you posted that, because otherwise I'd be hiding in the bathroom right now. "What was his point getting in that SUV?" Julia, Eeek to the eek eek!!! I suppose some people are going to say it was tied up too quickly or conveniently. My problem is that somehow 8 pm on Wed was the single most interrupted hour of my week for the past several months. I should probably have taped it, but the NBC station just doesn't come in all that clearly for us (we live only a few miles from the transmitter tower and the explanation has been that the "real, through the air" signal interferes with the cable signal because it is so strong and creates interference/feedback. It's totally unwatchable unless viewed through the VCR, but oddly doesn't tape well. Anyway, I miss chunk sized pieces of it weeks in a row. So mainly I didn't know who the "know it all woman" was who was working with Ted. I know she pretended to take his class but was really working for the bad cop guy but she seemed a little deus ex machina (?) in the way she knew everything all the time. So I may need others to clarify exactly what and how things were wrapped up. But I did get that both good guys were saved and the bad guy died and, in general, that's enough to keep me happy. Charlie sure did take a huge risk in just killing Roman and assuming he'd come out of it alive -- although maybe he didn't necessarily assume that. And, I liked the "going to Spain" note. So, were ALL the loose ends tied up? If it does get renewed one wonders "what now?"
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Apr 9, 2009 7:42:42 GMT -5
Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Apr 9, 2009 7:42:42 GMT -5
I asserted myself. I told The Husband I wanted to watch Life in real time, I couldn't wait, and if he preferred AI, that was his loss and we'd watch together later anyway. Another couldn't-get-to-sleep night filled with thinky thoughts. That was magnificent. Brilliant. Best Show Ever. I woke up this morning with thoughts about love and the misuse of love going around in my head. Crewes offered his life for his partner's, because he loved her. I don't think it was a sexual love (and what about last week, and Seavers talking about "sexual tension between partners"?), more of a comrades in arms love. Also, the look on Dani's face when she realised what he was doing, and her expression at the end, and for that matter, Charlie's face at the end, as if he'd been freed, finally, for real - he found his Zen, and he never needed that "bigger gun" after all. Roman misused love and destroyed love; he controlled people by threatening their loved ones. And everybody got what they deserved, and justice was served, and even, something bad (Charlie's time in jail) led to something that could be considered good (Charlie being able to kill Roman before anyone could stop him), and that was one hell of a ride, wasn't it. I'm still incoherent and babbling. This was right up there with "Choices" and the last episode of Crossing Jordan. I hope there's more Life, but if this is it, what a way to go. By the way, early in the episode when Roman was walking through the hallway kissing his women, there was one shot that really really reminded me of Spike and Dru in S2 of BtVS - I have to go and look at it again, but it was almost posed that way. Now I get to read everybody else's thoughts, and try not to get all emotional before breakfast. Damn, that was a good piece of TV. P.S. And, you know, I don't think anyone's ever loved Dani that much before, that she knew of. Although I think Tidwell might; he was ready to take on Roman and his barbarian hordes for her. And Tidwell was the one who figured out the location of the warehouse, because he knows what a subway sounds like. Yes, we in So Cal do have a subway, just a little one, but no, I wouldn't have a clue what it sounds like because I don't live or work anywhere near it. P.P.S. More thoughts keep bubbling up... "What do you want? I want a peaceful soul. What do you need? I need a bigger gun. " Charlie got his bigger gun, and didn't need it. Looks like he got his peaceful soul, too.
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Apr 9, 2009 9:52:42 GMT -5
Post by Sue on Apr 9, 2009 9:52:42 GMT -5
I woke up this morning with thoughts about love and the misuse of love going around in my head. Crewes offered his life for his partner's, because he loved her. I don't think it was a sexual love (and what about last week, and Seavers talking about "sexual tension between partners"?), more of a comrades in arms love. Also, the look on Dani's face when she realised what he was doing, and her expression at the end, and for that matter, Charlie's face at the end, as if he'd been freed, finally, for real - he found his Zen, and he never needed that "bigger gun" after all. Roman misused love and destroyed love; he controlled people by threatening their loved ones. And everybody got what they deserved, and justice was served, and even, something bad (Charlie's time in jail) led to something that could be considered good (Charlie being able to kill Roman before anyone could stop him), and that was one hell of a ride, wasn't it. .... "What do you want? I want a peaceful soul. What do you need? I need a bigger gun. " Charlie got his bigger gun, and didn't need it. Looks like he got his peaceful soul, too. Anne-- Great thoughts. Life and Love and peaceful souls. It's definitely a show of big ideas. Yeah. Crewes had love and loyalty issues of his own: his dad, his lawyer, his wife, even the girl he rescued. I often thought that the show introduced characters/storylines that they never followed up on but it's possible that it appeared that way to me because of the bits and pieces (and occasional chunks) that I missed. I mean, I looked down at a math problem I was working and missed the moment of Roman's death -- it happened so fast. So I sometimes wonder where characters went (like the lawyer, the wife, the dad, the girl) and why. But taken in a broader context that may be symbolic of Crewes' life: people are there and then they go away; they can't be depended on; people are like clues which lead you down a false alley until you come to a deadend and you have to start over with a different lead. But all of Charlie's partners have come through: the guy, the new (straight arrow, by the book, I've got a plan for my career) girl and especially Dani. Charlie seems to have some quality about him that inspires great trust and loyalty in his partners. And Ted. Family and lovers have failed Charlie but not his friends and partners. So (dare I say, like Buffy) his partners became his family. So I agree with Anne that there was not even a suggestion that what Crewes felt toward Dani was romantic love (the ep was clear that that was Tidwell's domain) but something in some ways far stronger. Romantic love may come and go (see Ted as well as Charlie) but Charlie would give up his life for Dani. That quote about the peaceful soul and the gun really is a perfect piece of writing. And Charlie got both. He got the "bigger gun" of his love for Dani and his absolute belief that he was doing the right thing AND he got his peaceful soul. We were given a bit of foreshadowing when Roman asked about the black detective's family, but Charlie still couldn't be certain that the thugs wouldn't just kill him. But I don't think he was worried about that. He was doing what he had to do and the consequences would just have to fall out as they would. What did you think of the underlying explanation/motivation of how all this started? That the guy picked Charlie out as his "successor" and was trying to get to him by dirtying his partner? Maybe pre-prison Charlie would has followed the destiny chosen for him. Anyway, all in all a satisfying resolution so kudos to the show runners and I still hope they get to come back.
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Apr 9, 2009 10:32:47 GMT -5
Post by Julia, wrought iron-y on Apr 9, 2009 10:32:47 GMT -5
It's a good thing you posted that, because otherwise I'd be hiding in the bathroom right now. "What was his point getting in that SUV?" Julia, Eeek to the eek eek!!! I suppose some people are going to say it was tied up too quickly or conveniently. My problem is that somehow 8 pm on Wed was the single most interrupted hour of my week for the past several months. I should probably have taped it, but the NBC station just doesn't come in all that clearly for us (we live only a few miles from the transmitter tower and the explanation has been that the "real, through the air" signal interferes with the cable signal because it is so strong and creates interference/feedback. It's totally unwatchable unless viewed through the VCR, but oddly doesn't tape well. Anyway, I miss chunk sized pieces of it weeks in a row. So mainly I didn't know who the "know it all woman" was who was working with Ted. I know she pretended to take his class but was really working for the bad cop guy but she seemed a little deus ex machina (?) in the way she knew everything all the time. So I may need others to clarify exactly what and how things were wrapped up. But I did get that both good guys were saved and the bad guy died and, in general, that's enough to keep me happy. Charlie sure did take a huge risk in just killing Roman and assuming he'd come out of it alive -- although maybe he didn't necessarily assume that. And, I liked the "going to Spain" note. So, were ALL the loose ends tied up? If it does get renewed one wonders "what now?" I think it showed a good understanding of why people worked for Roman- he killed his own people with impunity, and only fear held them. Julia, and when the source of the fear is gone, there was no loyalty or common purpose.
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Apr 9, 2009 11:00:05 GMT -5
Post by Sue on Apr 9, 2009 11:00:05 GMT -5
I suppose some people are going to say it was tied up too quickly or conveniently. My problem is that somehow 8 pm on Wed was the single most interrupted hour of my week for the past several months. I should probably have taped it, but the NBC station just doesn't come in all that clearly for us (we live only a few miles from the transmitter tower and the explanation has been that the "real, through the air" signal interferes with the cable signal because it is so strong and creates interference/feedback. It's totally unwatchable unless viewed through the VCR, but oddly doesn't tape well. Anyway, I miss chunk sized pieces of it weeks in a row. So mainly I didn't know who the "know it all woman" was who was working with Ted. I know she pretended to take his class but was really working for the bad cop guy but she seemed a little deus ex machina (?) in the way she knew everything all the time. So I may need others to clarify exactly what and how things were wrapped up. But I did get that both good guys were saved and the bad guy died and, in general, that's enough to keep me happy. Charlie sure did take a huge risk in just killing Roman and assuming he'd come out of it alive -- although maybe he didn't necessarily assume that. And, I liked the "going to Spain" note. So, were ALL the loose ends tied up? If it does get renewed one wonders "what now?" I think it showed a good understanding of why people worked for Roman- he killed his own people with impunity, and only fear held them. Julia, and when the source of the fear is gone, there was no loyalty or common purpose. And maybe Charlie was especially able to recognize that dynamic from his years of incarceration.
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Apr 9, 2009 12:43:24 GMT -5
Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Apr 9, 2009 12:43:24 GMT -5
I woke up this morning with thoughts about love and the misuse of love going around in my head. Crewes offered his life for his partner's, because he loved her. I don't think it was a sexual love (and what about last week, and Seavers talking about "sexual tension between partners"?), more of a comrades in arms love. Also, the look on Dani's face when she realised what he was doing, and her expression at the end, and for that matter, Charlie's face at the end, as if he'd been freed, finally, for real - he found his Zen, and he never needed that "bigger gun" after all. Roman misused love and destroyed love; he controlled people by threatening their loved ones. And everybody got what they deserved, and justice was served, and even, something bad (Charlie's time in jail) led to something that could be considered good (Charlie being able to kill Roman before anyone could stop him), and that was one hell of a ride, wasn't it. .... "What do you want? I want a peaceful soul. What do you need? I need a bigger gun. " Charlie got his bigger gun, and didn't need it. Looks like he got his peaceful soul, too. Anne-- Great thoughts. Life and Love and peaceful souls. It's definitely a show of big ideas. Yeah. Crewes had love and loyalty issues of his own: his dad, his lawyer, his wife, even the girl he rescued. I often thought that the show introduced characters/storylines that they never followed up on but it's possible that it appeared that way to me because of the bits and pieces (and occasional chunks) that I missed. I mean, I looked down at a math problem I was working and missed the moment of Roman's death -- it happened so fast. So I sometimes wonder where characters went (like the lawyer, the wife, the dad, the girl) and why. But taken in a broader context that may be symbolic of Crewes' life: people are there and then they go away; they can't be depended on; people are like clues which lead you down a false alley until you come to a deadend and you have to start over with a different lead. But all of Charlie's partners have come through: the guy, the new (straight arrow, by the book, I've got a plan for my career) girl and especially Dani. Charlie seems to have some quality about him that inspires great trust and loyalty in his partners. And Ted. Family and lovers have failed Charlie but not his friends and partners. So (dare I say, like Buffy) his partners became his family. So I agree with Anne that there was not even a suggestion that what Crewes felt toward Dani was romantic love (the ep was clear that that was Tidwell's domain) but something in some ways far stronger. Romantic love may come and go (see Ted as well as Charlie) but Charlie would give up his life for Dani. That quote about the peaceful soul and the gun really is a perfect piece of writing. And Charlie got both. He got the "bigger gun" of his love for Dani and his absolute belief that he was doing the right thing AND he got his peaceful soul. We were given a bit of foreshadowing when Roman asked about the black detective's family, but Charlie still couldn't be certain that the thugs wouldn't just kill him. But I don't think he was worried about that. He was doing what he had to do and the consequences would just have to fall out as they would. What did you think of the underlying explanation/motivation of how all this started? That the guy picked Charlie out as his "successor" and was trying to get to him by dirtying his partner? Maybe pre-prison Charlie would has followed the destiny chosen for him. Anyway, all in all a satisfying resolution so kudos to the show runners and I still hope they get to come back. I keep getting bits of Buffy dialogue in my head about this episode - I just looked it up, and it's from "Intervention": BUFFY: I know you, you're the first slayer.
Guide: This is a form. I am the guide.
BUFFY: I have a few questions. About being the slayer. What about love. Not just boyfriend love.
Guide: You think you're losing your ability to love.
BUFFY: I didn't say that. Yeah.
Guide: You're afraid that being the slayer means losing your humanity.
BUFFY: Does it?
Guide: You are full of love. You love with all your soul. It's brighter than the fire, blinding. That's why you pull away from it.
BUFFY: I'm full of love? I'm not losing it?
Guide: Only if you reject it. Love is pain and the slayer forges strength from pain. Love. Give. Forgive. Risk the pain. It is your nature. For it will bring you to your gift.
BUFFY: What?
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BUFFY: I'm sorry, I'm just a little confused. I'm full of love, which is nice. And love will lead me to my gift?
Guide: Yes.
BUFFY: I'm getting a gift? or do you mean that I have gift to give to someone else?
Guide: Death is your gift.
BUFFY: Death...
Guide:...*is* your gift.
Charlie is full of love, and death (and justice) are his gifts. Joss gets pretty Zen himself. No wonder I love both shows. You're absolutely right, Sue, Charlie's partners are his family, and so is Ted. Although Ted is also reconnecting with his daughter, so more family. And I have to admit - all that "peaceful soul" stuff had me very worried that Charlie would give his life to save Dani, like Buffy jumping off the tower, or Spike taking out the Hellmouth. Why, yes, I am a BtVS fan, why do you ask?
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Apr 9, 2009 21:52:54 GMT -5
Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Apr 9, 2009 21:52:54 GMT -5
I just watched this episode again with Paul. If anything, it was even more powerful. Wow. Just. Wow. TV too good for TV. Anne, stupid dust in my eyes
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Apr 9, 2009 22:14:46 GMT -5
Post by Spaced Out Looney on Apr 9, 2009 22:14:46 GMT -5
Ooh! Roman's being interviewed for the documentary. Wait, how does that work? I love the intercutting of the documentary, but I'm getting really confused as to when in the timeline this documentary is being produced and who is producing it.
Aren't you supposed to be in prison? No man is supposed to be in prison. Has Roman been listening to Crews' zen tapes?
A man offered to serve my time for me. Well, that was nice of him! Heh, interviewer agrees with me.
Whup, there goes the producer. I guess my questions will never be answered now. Or maybe they will. This is kind of cool for Roman to take over. I think.
Nice music here.
Is that Dani? Yep, it's her.
Roman wants Roman.
Now the entire department is behind Crews. Nice contrast to the beginning of season 1.
FBI Lady wasn't in on it? Does this mean that the FBI made a deal with Roman despite themselves? Or he coerced them somehow?
Crews crashes his car into the garage. Dude! That was AWESOME!
Oh, assassin was also FBI. So there was a shadow operation or something? Or corruption?
Stockpiling Raybourne's blood? Ah, to stage his death. OK
Watching a movie in the minivan. Hee.
FBI guy talks with Crews' about his whole backstory. this is a nice conversation.
Oh, are they eating In N Out?
Roman killed Jack?
Seaver's figured out a way to work helping Crews into her 15 year plan. Hee.
Hiding out at the homeless shelter. Not a bad plan, actually.
Love the look of death Crews gives Raybourne.
Crews starts to figure things out. AWESOME.
What exactly is it that Raybourne does? Just a run of the mill crime and money laundrying? Did I miss something?
Is this the bar that they used to own?
Confrontation with Roman. It's...wait for it... AWESOME.
Crews wants to know if Roman likes oranges? Huh? Oh, the orange grove. Cool.
Great music here too.
Crews is the Dread Pirate Raybourne. And he exchanges himself for Reese. This should be interesting.
Are Reese and Seaver going to partner up for a while then?
He calls you an animal. But it's not so bad because I've seen him with his dog and he really loves that animal. Heh.
Crews twists the screws. Very cool.
Crews is essentially back in prison. But he's stronger now. Nice lighting effect.
Whoa. Did Crews just kill Roman?
Well, there's still Raybourne to contend with.
And Ted goes chasing Olivia. Sigh.
That word is love.
Crews looks upwards. Like in the pilot. He's finally free. Neat.
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Apr 10, 2009 19:21:35 GMT -5
Post by Spaced Out Looney on Apr 10, 2009 19:21:35 GMT -5
I asserted myself. I told The Husband I wanted to watch Life in real time, I couldn't wait, and if he preferred AI, that was his loss and we'd watch together later anyway. Another couldn't-get-to-sleep night filled with thinky thoughts. That was magnificent. Brilliant. Best Show Ever. I woke up this morning with thoughts about love and the misuse of love going around in my head. Crewes offered his life for his partner's, because he loved her. I don't think it was a sexual love (and what about last week, and Seavers talking about "sexual tension between partners"?), more of a comrades in arms love. Also, the look on Dani's face when she realised what he was doing, and her expression at the end, and for that matter, Charlie's face at the end, as if he'd been freed, finally, for real - he found his Zen, and he never needed that "bigger gun" after all. Roman misused love and destroyed love; he controlled people by threatening their loved ones. And everybody got what they deserved, and justice was served, and even, something bad (Charlie's time in jail) led to something that could be considered good (Charlie being able to kill Roman before anyone could stop him), and that was one hell of a ride, wasn't it. I'm still incoherent and babbling. This was right up there with "Choices" and the last episode of Crossing Jordan. I hope there's more Life, but if this is it, what a way to go. By the way, early in the episode when Roman was walking through the hallway kissing his women, there was one shot that really really reminded me of Spike and Dru in S2 of BtVS - I have to go and look at it again, but it was almost posed that way. Now I get to read everybody else's thoughts, and try not to get all emotional before breakfast. Damn, that was a good piece of TV. P.S. And, you know, I don't think anyone's ever loved Dani that much before, that she knew of. Although I think Tidwell might; he was ready to take on Roman and his barbarian hordes for her. And Tidwell was the one who figured out the location of the warehouse, because he knows what a subway sounds like. Yes, we in So Cal do have a subway, just a little one, but no, I wouldn't have a clue what it sounds like because I don't live or work anywhere near it. P.P.S. More thoughts keep bubbling up... "What do you want? I want a peaceful soul. What do you need? I need a bigger gun. " Charlie got his bigger gun, and didn't need it. Looks like he got his peaceful soul, too. *Nods* The way they developed the theme of love was really great. Too often shows only explore familial love or romantic love. Eetah about no one ever loving Dani that much before; her expression at the end really said it all. It's about the love between friends, closer than friends even. They had become members of the same tribe. Very heartwarming.
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Apr 10, 2009 19:34:49 GMT -5
Post by Spaced Out Looney on Apr 10, 2009 19:34:49 GMT -5
I woke up this morning with thoughts about love and the misuse of love going around in my head. Crewes offered his life for his partner's, because he loved her. I don't think it was a sexual love (and what about last week, and Seavers talking about "sexual tension between partners"?), more of a comrades in arms love. Also, the look on Dani's face when she realised what he was doing, and her expression at the end, and for that matter, Charlie's face at the end, as if he'd been freed, finally, for real - he found his Zen, and he never needed that "bigger gun" after all. Roman misused love and destroyed love; he controlled people by threatening their loved ones. And everybody got what they deserved, and justice was served, and even, something bad (Charlie's time in jail) led to something that could be considered good (Charlie being able to kill Roman before anyone could stop him), and that was one hell of a ride, wasn't it. .... "What do you want? I want a peaceful soul. What do you need? I need a bigger gun. " Charlie got his bigger gun, and didn't need it. Looks like he got his peaceful soul, too. Anne-- Great thoughts. Life and Love and peaceful souls. It's definitely a show of big ideas. Yeah. Crewes had love and loyalty issues of his own: his dad, his lawyer, his wife, even the girl he rescued. I often thought that the show introduced characters/storylines that they never followed up on but it's possible that it appeared that way to me because of the bits and pieces (and occasional chunks) that I missed. I mean, I looked down at a math problem I was working and missed the moment of Roman's death -- it happened so fast. So I sometimes wonder where characters went (like the lawyer, the wife, the dad, the girl) and why. But taken in a broader context that may be symbolic of Crewes' life: people are there and then they go away; they can't be depended on; people are like clues which lead you down a false alley until you come to a deadend and you have to start over with a different lead. But all of Charlie's partners have come through: the guy, the new (straight arrow, by the book, I've got a plan for my career) girl and especially Dani. Charlie seems to have some quality about him that inspires great trust and loyalty in his partners. And Ted. Family and lovers have failed Charlie but not his friends and partners. So (dare I say, like Buffy) his partners became his family. So I agree with Anne that there was not even a suggestion that what Crewes felt toward Dani was romantic love (the ep was clear that that was Tidwell's domain) but something in some ways far stronger. Romantic love may come and go (see Ted as well as Charlie) but Charlie would give up his life for Dani. That quote about the peaceful soul and the gun really is a perfect piece of writing. And Charlie got both. He got the "bigger gun" of his love for Dani and his absolute belief that he was doing the right thing AND he got his peaceful soul. We were given a bit of foreshadowing when Roman asked about the black detective's family, but Charlie still couldn't be certain that the thugs wouldn't just kill him. But I don't think he was worried about that. He was doing what he had to do and the consequences would just have to fall out as they would. What did you think of the underlying explanation/motivation of how all this started? That the guy picked Charlie out as his "successor" and was trying to get to him by dirtying his partner? Maybe pre-prison Charlie would has followed the destiny chosen for him. Anyway, all in all a satisfying resolution so kudos to the show runners and I still hope they get to come back. The other relationships in Crews' life do seem like loose ends to me, but I kind of like your theory here. I don't really understand what inspired the Conspiracy in the first place. I think I'm going to have to rewatch the series to figure it out. I a lot of the details confused me the first time around. I did like how it turned out to be all about Crews and he had no idea. I don't know if he would have fallen for it if he hadn't gone to prison. I'll have to ponder that some more.
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Apr 10, 2009 19:36:31 GMT -5
Post by Spaced Out Looney on Apr 10, 2009 19:36:31 GMT -5
I suppose some people are going to say it was tied up too quickly or conveniently. My problem is that somehow 8 pm on Wed was the single most interrupted hour of my week for the past several months. I should probably have taped it, but the NBC station just doesn't come in all that clearly for us (we live only a few miles from the transmitter tower and the explanation has been that the "real, through the air" signal interferes with the cable signal because it is so strong and creates interference/feedback. It's totally unwatchable unless viewed through the VCR, but oddly doesn't tape well. Anyway, I miss chunk sized pieces of it weeks in a row. So mainly I didn't know who the "know it all woman" was who was working with Ted. I know she pretended to take his class but was really working for the bad cop guy but she seemed a little deus ex machina (?) in the way she knew everything all the time. So I may need others to clarify exactly what and how things were wrapped up. But I did get that both good guys were saved and the bad guy died and, in general, that's enough to keep me happy. Charlie sure did take a huge risk in just killing Roman and assuming he'd come out of it alive -- although maybe he didn't necessarily assume that. And, I liked the "going to Spain" note. So, were ALL the loose ends tied up? If it does get renewed one wonders "what now?" I think it showed a good understanding of why people worked for Roman- he killed his own people with impunity, and only fear held them. Julia, and when the source of the fear is gone, there was no loyalty or common purpose. *nods*
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Apr 10, 2009 19:48:49 GMT -5
Post by Spaced Out Looney on Apr 10, 2009 19:48:49 GMT -5
I find it neat how Crews has now actually committed murder... which is what he was sentenced with in the first place. It reminds me of that quote from Shawshank Redemption (which is also a Count of Monte Cristo story) "The funny thing is, on the outside, I was an honest man, straight as an arrow. I had to come to prison to be a crook."
BTW, am I the only one seeing this as a Count of Monte Cristo story? Does anyone know if the creators have said that they were inspired by the book or even that they were fans of it? Anyone know if any critics who have brought it up? Other fans? Cause once it occurred to me, it seems so obvious. I find it hard to believe that I'm the only one.
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Apr 11, 2009 11:19:15 GMT -5
Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Apr 11, 2009 11:19:15 GMT -5
I woke up this morning with thoughts about love and the misuse of love going around in my head. Crewes offered his life for his partner's, because he loved her. I don't think it was a sexual love (and what about last week, and Seavers talking about "sexual tension between partners"?), more of a comrades in arms love. Also, the look on Dani's face when she realised what he was doing, and her expression at the end, and for that matter, Charlie's face at the end, as if he'd been freed, finally, for real - he found his Zen, and he never needed that "bigger gun" after all. Roman misused love and destroyed love; he controlled people by threatening their loved ones. And everybody got what they deserved, and justice was served, and even, something bad (Charlie's time in jail) led to something that could be considered good (Charlie being able to kill Roman before anyone could stop him), and that was one hell of a ride, wasn't it. .... "What do you want? I want a peaceful soul. What do you need? I need a bigger gun. " Charlie got his bigger gun, and didn't need it. Looks like he got his peaceful soul, too. That quote about the peaceful soul and the gun really is a perfect piece of writing. And Charlie got both. He got the "bigger gun" of his love for Dani and his absolute belief that he was doing the right thing AND he got his peaceful soul.Sue, I wanted to say, before I forgot again that the "bigger gun" being Charlie's love for Dani - yes, you're absolutely right. I was also thinking about the close shots they used during the exchange - just their faces, and their hands (and their hands just brushing gave me shivers and tears in my eyes, even the second time, it's like they're saying goodbye) - I know it was because they were shooting around Sarah Shahi's pregnancy, but it also worked really well as a cinematic device. It made the scene much more effective emotionally than the standard overhead "gunfight on Main Street" shot would have. Also (I am very slow) the reason Dani had a bag over her head in the long shots in the warehouse (or her hair hanging down concealing her face)? Body double. Also, again, very effective at emphasising her helplessness. But still, I am an idiot. By the way, Amazon is taking preorders for the S2 DVD set. I didn't see a release date (that may have changed by now) but it's a good sign. Even if they have to change the music, it's still worth watching. Over, and over, and over... The cover is much prettier this time - not that police barricade tape yellow. I think I've spent more mental effort (and obsession) on this show than anything I can remember since Buffy. *Sigh*
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