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Post by Queen E on May 30, 2008 21:48:49 GMT -5
Yeah, you really don't want to mess with librarians...
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Jun 2, 2008 19:44:19 GMT -5
making shadows scary: win
then making them into a lurching imitable monster: double win
making libraries scary: not win
but presumably the scare is there's bad things making it unsafe to use a good place, not the place is bad.
I think the 'saved' thing is a bit obvious for nobody on screen to have thought of it.
I also hope for a sneaky way to reintroduce the concept of the Matrix ala Time Lords
because, you know, the Doctor knows the Time Lords are all dead... but have they been saved?
Meeting a companion from the future... you know, technically they did that with Mel, but they did it really badly then. This is instead interesting.
The Doctor is indeed pretty.
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Post by Queen E on Jun 2, 2008 20:03:30 GMT -5
making shadows scary: win then making them into a lurching imitable monster: double win making libraries scary: not win but presumably the scare is there's bad things making it unsafe to use a good place, not the place is bad. I think the 'saved' thing is a bit obvious for nobody on screen to have thought of it. I also hope for a sneaky way to reintroduce the concept of the Matrix ala Time Lords because, you know, the Doctor knows the Time Lords are all dead... but have they been saved? Meeting a companion from the future... you know, technically they did that with Mel, but they did it really badly then. This is instead interesting. The Doctor is indeed pretty. True...'cause I'd love to go to a library planet. I really enjoyed this episode...but I have a feeling it will hang together much better as a two-parter, rather than just on its own. Which has been the case with every two parter except Human Nature/Family of Blood, which stood alone quite well. Which is odd, since Human Nature ended in a cliffhanger. Stephen Moffat does like his strange walking, animatronic, make ordinary things scary as hell stuff, doesn't he? Clockwork robots, marble statues... |
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Jun 3, 2008 11:59:29 GMT -5
This is cool, but I have no idea what’s going on.
How do you get around?
By wishing.
Something wants in.
Is it the Doctor?
Yep.
Credits.
The smell of books.
The Doctor would like Jenny Calendar.
51st century.
Isn’t this when Jack is from?
The planet is The Library.
That’s AWESOME. I so want to go there.
Biographies, always a death in the end.
But it’s a good death.
Spoilers.
Hee!
The Library is completely empty.
He never lands on Sundays because Sundays are boring.
Tons of life, just not humanoid.
The books are alive?
Donna’s thinking the same thing as me.
So are they or aren’t they?
I feel like this is a cross between Hitchhiker’s Guide and Serenity.
Count the shadows.
Huh?
The slightly psychic paper can pick up messages?
Is that new?
And we’re back at the beginning of the episode.
A security camera.
The girl was seeing through a security camera?
And the girl's words show up on the LED.
Guys in hazmat suits.
Androids.
Archaeologists.
The Doctor points and laughs at archaeologists.
If you understand me look very, very scared.
Are the shadows like the ones in that X-Files episode where they're like dark matter or something?
OtherDave.
Hee.
Professor River Song.
So we’re exploring fear of the dark in this episode.
Oh, Curly Hair was the chick on ER. I like her.
Pretty Boy. I think that should be the Doctor’s new name.
Ah, Curly Hair called the Doctor.
And they know each other somehow.
So who is she?
Phone ringing. Ugh.
Only the girl can hear the ringing.
Girl and the Doctor talking.
Flipping through the channels.
Can’t see inside the book. It’s against the rules.
The Doctor’s rules.
Hidden buttons on the remote.
Love the books flying all over the place.
It’s like a combination of Harry Potter and Mary Poppins.
A skeleton.
The skeleton was Pretty Girl.
A data ghost. Cool.
Spoilers in the book.
Of course.
Dr. Moon and Professor Song?
Dr. Moon knows about the reality of the library.
And how does he know that?
The Doctor hasn't met Song yet.
The message got misdirected to before they met.
Song also know about Donna.
Two shadows.
Ew... the shadow got into his suit.
That's icky.
Lots of shadows now. Really cool.
Donna Noble has been saved.
Ooh, the info-bot’s face is now Donna’s.
Cliff-hanger ending.
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Post by Queen E on Jun 6, 2008 21:30:08 GMT -5
You know, it's probably crazy, but with this being the 51st century and the squareness gun? Why I am thinking that River Song is somehow connected to Captain Jack? Coincidence?
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Post by Lola m on Jun 20, 2008 20:06:00 GMT -5
A very pretty library. Ooooh! The Doctor and Donna are in the Library in her mind? Coolio! Except that probably means it's not in her mind, eh?  Oh! So it follows from the last ep - talking about people always reading. Nice.  A Library world!!!! I'd so like to live there. "Maybe everyone's really really quiet." ;D A million million life forms that we can't see or hear? Are they tiny tiny? Oooh! Alive books? Nifty. Now, what's going to go horribly wrong so they end up rushing in on the little girl like they're running from something? |
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Post by Lola m on Jun 20, 2008 20:41:56 GMT -5
Message follows: Run. For God's sake, run. Nowhere is safe. Heh. Love that she goes thru all normal speech before giving up that little bit of info. "Count the shadows." So, some of the shadows aren't shadows? He got a message on his psychic paper? From who? From the library itselfm maybe? Or . . . ? Oh!! And this is where we started! Heeee! Donna kicked the door in! Ohhhh! The little girl is a security camera? Or is she projecting her mind into a security camera? Or is she really the camera and the doctor and dad are being imagined by the camera? Or . . . ? "The library has been breached. Others are coming." Donna freaks about the face and then eeeeep! What's casting the shadow? It's not dark, the shadows are moving. "Hello sweetie" and "get back in your ship" and heee! Oh, it's her! I like that actress. Doctor is not best pleased and wants them gone and gives the scary shadow speech. Other Dave? Heeee! He's funny. **snicker** Simultaneous tearing of contracts. This all happened a hundred years ago? Not irrational, it's "vashta nerada"(sp?)? What's in the dark? Yes. Yes you are very pretty. There is no fighting it, Doctor. I don't think Donna likes them snarking about the one silly woman. |
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Post by artemis on Jun 20, 2008 20:54:21 GMT -5
meh. i am not enjoying this episode.
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Post by Lola m on Jun 20, 2008 20:56:10 GMT -5
Is she from the Doctor's future then? Oh! A future companion or lover or something like that?! Her diary is like the TARDIS. How is this little girl connected with the library? The library's never been on television before. And he's soooooooooooo very curious about her diary. Not allowed to "see inside the book". I'm thinking this is like how he told Donna not to look at the biographies that were from ahead of her time. Flying books!! Oh poor silly pretty rather stupid woman. Pride and patent? What happened. Oh, and there goes the not bright woman. Don't go inside!! (Just a nit to pick, but why do people who are trying to bring something important to other people's attention always keep repeating "hey, look at this" "listen to me" or "this might be important, actually", which everyone always ignores? Instead, why don't they yell something like "hey, there's a monster" or "duck so the large swinging ax doesn't cut your head off" or " hey look a large panel just opened in the library wall and we can either escape out of it or perhaps bad things are about to attack us from it") Ahem. Back on tangent.  Saved but no survivors. So, did they get turned into books? And of course the not-bright woman goes into the wall without anyone noticing. |
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Post by Lola m on Jun 20, 2008 21:02:26 GMT -5
Turned to a skelaton. Whoa. Speedy.  "She's ghosting." Her last moment. Reassuring the "data ghost" that everything is gong to be fine.  Asking to talk to Donna. Well, that was really rather affecting and sad and touchingly well done.  |
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Post by artemis on Jun 20, 2008 21:09:17 GMT -5
nope, waiting till the end to write more hasn't really changed my opinion at all. i agree that the "being saved" seems so obvious that it seems contrived that no one on screen would have thought of it. for some reason i also found alex kingston's character rather annoying, even though i've liked her in other things i've seen her in (the ER character she played, btw, is elizabeth corday). plus i'm feeling rather tired of Creepy Little Girl being the go-to stereotype for scary episodes on tv. but maybe the car alarm that's been running outside for twenty minutes has colored my feelings.  :-P |
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Post by Lola m on Jun 20, 2008 21:10:00 GMT -5
The real world and the world of nightmares. The real world is a lie. Nightmares are real. Only you can save them. Well. Hee! She spills her guts and Donna is all "what the hell are you talking about?" "Where am I in the future?" Oh, Donna! Never ask those things. Pirahnas of the air. So, those are all the life forms that the library detected. Not every shadow. Well. That's comforting. First, statues. Now, shadows and dust motes and air. Let's just be scared of everything in existance then, shall me? Shadows!! Run!! Eeeep!! |
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Post by Lola m on Jun 20, 2008 21:16:28 GMT -5
Ooopsie. Looks like they got Dave the first. Well. And now the shadows can walk around, it seems. "Donna Noble has been saved." So, all the people who are gone are, like, downloaded? Into the library computer or the books or something? Oh! All the faces! Are the people who were in the library. So, you just have to get them out of the program and back into the people and so on. The dueling repeating voices are both icky/scary and also kind of annoying. |
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Post by Lola m on Jun 20, 2008 21:17:31 GMT -5
Yeah, you really don't want to mess with librarians... So, are we thinking the little girl is the librarian or the library? |
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Post by Lola m on Jun 20, 2008 21:26:50 GMT -5
making shadows scary: win then making them into a lurching imitable monster: double win Triple win, with the info faces now all being eepsome too. And now our intrepid heroes get to help make the good place good again. Well, yes. I am thinking the same kind of thing . . . but I'm trying very hard not to get my hopes up. Oh my yes. Yes indeedy deed adoo. |
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Asking to talk to Donna. 
:-P