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Post by artemis on Jun 20, 2008 21:29:17 GMT -5
Oh, and there goes the not bright woman. Don't go inside!! (Just a nit to pick, but why do people who are trying to bring something important to other people's attention always keep repeating "hey, look at this" "listen to me" or "this might be important, actually", which everyone always ignores? Instead, why don't they yell something like "hey, there's a monster" or "duck so the large swinging ax doesn't cut your head off" or " hey look a large panel just opened in the library wall and we can either escape out of it or perhaps bad things are about to attack us from it") Ahem. Back on tangent. or "LISTEN UP!! WE MIGHT BE ABOUT TO DIE!!"
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Post by Lola m on Jun 20, 2008 21:29:29 GMT -5
making shadows scary: win then making them into a lurching imitable monster: double win making libraries scary: not win but presumably the scare is there's bad things making it unsafe to use a good place, not the place is bad. I think the 'saved' thing is a bit obvious for nobody on screen to have thought of it. I also hope for a sneaky way to reintroduce the concept of the Matrix ala Time Lords because, you know, the Doctor knows the Time Lords are all dead... but have they been saved? Meeting a companion from the future... you know, technically they did that with Mel, but they did it really badly then. This is instead interesting. The Doctor is indeed pretty. True...'cause I'd love to go to a library planet. I really enjoyed this episode...but I have a feeling it will hang together much better as a two-parter, rather than just on its own. Which has been the case with every two parter except Human Nature/Family of Blood, which stood alone quite well. Which is odd, since Human Nature ended in a cliffhanger. Stephen Moffat does like his strange walking, animatronic, make ordinary things scary as hell stuff, doesn't he? Clockwork robots, marble statues... This feels very much like a "needs both parts" two-parter, but I am enjoying it. It has the same scary of Blink, only with more twists.
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Post by Lola m on Jun 20, 2008 21:30:46 GMT -5
Oh, and there goes the not bright woman. Don't go inside!! (Just a nit to pick, but why do people who are trying to bring something important to other people's attention always keep repeating "hey, look at this" "listen to me" or "this might be important, actually", which everyone always ignores? Instead, why don't they yell something like "hey, there's a monster" or "duck so the large swinging ax doesn't cut your head off" or " hey look a large panel just opened in the library wall and we can either escape out of it or perhaps bad things are about to attack us from it") Ahem. Back on tangent. or "LISTEN UP!! WE MIGHT BE ABOUT TO DIE!!" **nods vigorously** That would have been an excellent thing to yell!!
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Post by Rachael on Jun 21, 2008 11:26:04 GMT -5
meh. i am not enjoying this episode. Huh. And here I thought it was the best one in weeks. I agree with becca; none of these people are from the pre-computer age, so why doesn't the latest meaning of "saved" enter their minds? I wonder if it's gonna turn out to be a deeper mystery; the million million lifeforms are clearly the books; has the library been "saving" people since well before the shadows came? And...they're all in with the little girl, who's actually the mind of a security 'bot...in a Matrixy constructed mindworld, and most of them don't know it? That's where they go when they get saved?
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Post by Rachael on Jun 21, 2008 11:31:34 GMT -5
And the story about a woman from his future? Fascinating.
I DO have all sorts of trouble with Donna not getting it...time travel, dear. It's really only a matter of time before you cross your own timestream, one would think. *I* got it the second she started talking like she knew him - "Oh. She's from his future."
What IS odd is that, barring the flimsy bit with Mel, I can't remember the Doctor ever crossing his own timeline before. ("Multiple Doctors" episodes notwithstanding - those are different.) I always figured it was something about Time Lords - they were immune to that, or knew instinctively how to avoid it. Maybe now that Gallifrey is gone, he's lost that ability, too.
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Post by Lola m on Jun 21, 2008 19:57:15 GMT -5
And the story about a woman from his future? Fascinating. I DO have all sorts of trouble with Donna not getting it...time travel, dear. It's really only a matter of time before you cross your own timestream, one would think. *I* got it the second she started talking like she knew him - "Oh. She's from his future." Yes!! I was a bit confused by the Doctor's reaction too, seeming to be a bit too confused by things. But then I decided it could be him worried about crossing timeline (like you mention below) and all. Well, we've seen small instances of crossing, like the recent one in Blink where the woman from the story sees the Doctor and Donna before they do all the stuff and gives them the transcript needed to do the stuff. But yeah, I don't think we've seen large-scale crossing into his own time stream. And we know how jumpy he is about that kind of thing.
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Post by Queen E on Jun 21, 2008 20:09:52 GMT -5
It kind of makes me wonder if there is going to be some kind of weird split or something? Like they'll be two of him running around?
I mean, there's been a lot of focus on parallels and weird meetings and things not being what they seem. I mean, there always is, but in this season, there's been an alien breeding exercise masked as a weight loss pill, false Sybils and a volcanic eruption that wasn't, an air purifying device that poisons, a cloned Time Lord, a vicar who is actually a giant wasp, and now "nodes" with human faces (plus more things I can't talk about yet 'cause some of you haven't seen the episodes yet).
Does that mean we'll get a Doctor who isn't The Doctor?
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Post by Sara on Jun 21, 2008 20:58:56 GMT -5
meh. i am not enjoying this episode. Huh. And here I thought it was the best one in weeks. I agree with becca; none of these people are from the pre-computer age, so why doesn't the latest meaning of "saved" enter their minds?I wonder if it's gonna turn out to be a deeper mystery; the million million lifeforms are clearly the books; has the library been "saving" people since well before the shadows came? And...they're all in with the little girl, who's actually the mind of a security 'bot...in a Matrixy constructed mindworld, and most of them don't know it? That's where they go when they get saved? Well, I'm living in the computer age and it didn't occur to me until about 2 minutes before the reveal that "saved" might mean something other than "rescued." I'm with you in having thoroughly enjoyed this one, and I thought Tennant and Kingston had terrific chemistry—I'm really looking forward to finding out more about her connection to the Doctor.
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Post by artemis on Jun 22, 2008 19:24:10 GMT -5
i wish i HAD liked it - steven moffat's other episodes are some of my favorites out of the whole series, and i love libraries. hopefully i will enjoy part two more. to respond to erin's idea: or maybe there will be two DTs like there were two crichtons on farscape for a while. ETA don't forget the martha clone too.
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