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Post by William the Bloody on Sept 6, 2003 16:34:45 GMT -5
Written by Ty King
Directed by Michael E. Gershman
Air date: 2/24/98
Angel steps up his torment of Buffy and her friends even as Jenny Calendar searches for a way to restore his soul.
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Post by Lola m on Aug 27, 2006 18:31:06 GMT -5
Fiery passion. Lust. Love. Angst. Pain.
Ecstasy, despair, sexual abandon, and jealous seething! [/center] Sounds like we've reached the ninth week of the 2006 Sizzlin’  Episode Festival. 
And what was the 2nd most requested Buffy episode? Why, Passion, of course! And this is the thread to discuss it.
Passion. It lies in all of us. Sleeping... ...waiting...  I know how hard this is for you. All right, I don't. But as the Slayer, you don't have the luxury of being a slave to your, your passions. Buffy: It's so weird... Every time something like this happens, my first instinct is still to run to Angel. I can't believe it's the same person. He's completely different from the guy that I knew. Willow: Well, sort of, except... Buffy: Except what? Willow: You're still the only thing he thinks about.   Jenny: Rupert... I was raised by the people that Angel hurt the most. My duty to them was the first thing I was ever taught. I didn't come here to hurt anyone, and I lied to you because I thought it was the right thing to do. I... I didn't know what would happen. I didn't know I was gonna fall in love with you. Angelus: You have to help me. Joyce. I need, I need to be with her. You can convince her. You have to convince her.[ . . . ] I'll die without Buffy. She'll die without me. [ . . . ] I know you understand. Joyce: Just leave us alone! (Angelus is unable to enter) Buffy: Sorry, Angel. Changed the locks.  Angelus: Sorry, Jenny, this is where you get off. (snaps her neck) Ah... I never get tired of doing that.  Without passion, we'd be truly dead.
Want to also read Spring’s excellent Spikecentricity analysis of Passion?
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Post by SpringSummers on Aug 29, 2006 8:56:09 GMT -5
Passion is just a wonderful episode, and one of my favorite Giles eps.
ASH is just spectacular in it - his face, when he finds Jenny, deals with the police, starts to beat the hell out of Angel . . . he really makes you feel it all. You feel how he - the prim Giles of earlier in the ep - has become completely, totally overwhelmed. Angel's not the only one whose demon is showing in that scene in The Factory.
I love the scene that will follow, in Season 3, when he first sees Angel again (I forget the ep) and he pulls out that crossbow . . .
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Post by Lola m on Aug 29, 2006 12:29:56 GMT -5
Passion is just a wonderful episode, and one of my favorite Giles eps. ASH is just spectacular in it - his face, when he finds Jenny, deals with the police, starts to beat the hell out of Angel . . . he really makes you feel it all. You feel how he - the prim Giles of earlier is in the ep - has become completely, totally overwhelmed. Angel's not the only one whose demon is showing in that scene in The Factory. I love the scene that will follow, in Season 3, when he first sees Angel again (I forget the ep) and he pulls out that crossbow . . . **nods** And the scene between those two - when Angelus is torturing him and he snarks right back. I think that it's moments like that that prepare us for him killing Ben in season 5. Like the scene with Willow going after Glory prepare us for her as a "big bad" of season 6. |
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Post by Queen E on Aug 31, 2006 23:57:56 GMT -5
Oh, this is a heartbreaking episode to watch. And I remember listening to the commentary (or interview), in which Joss talked about how he had Angelus kill Jenny in vamp face, because otherwise the audience would never want to see him kiss Buffy again.
What do you guys think about that?
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Post by SpringSummers on Sept 1, 2006 7:29:30 GMT -5
Oh, this is a heartbreaking episode to watch. And I remember listening to the commentary (or interview), in which Joss talked about how he had Angelus kill Jenny in vamp face, because otherwise the audience would never want to see him kiss Buffy again. What do you guys think about that? Mostly, I think Joss is a smart businessman. Which is a good thing. And the vamp-face choice does serve the whole way the show is set up - there's a Buffy POV feel to the whole series. In Buffy's mind, there was a sharp distinction between Angel & Angelus; an absolute separation. And - though ultimately, we're meant to be able to see deeper than Buffy, and we're given the tools to do so, as an audience - Buffy kept that ability to be OK with letting her kiss him again, and further ANGEL kept the ability to allow himself to kiss her again, in the same way that the audience kept the ability to be OK with it. I.e., she found some way to tell herself: Well, that murder had absolutely nothing to do with my Angel. It was essential for Buffy. |
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Post by Michelle on Sept 1, 2006 16:01:07 GMT -5
Oh, this is a heartbreaking episode to watch. And I remember listening to the commentary (or interview), in which Joss talked about how he had Angelus kill Jenny in vamp face, because otherwise the audience would never want to see him kiss Buffy again. What do you guys think about that? And that makes me think of how Spike was not in vamp face during the AR. And he never kissed Buffy again. |
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Post by Karen on Sept 3, 2006 18:49:21 GMT -5
Oh, this is a heartbreaking episode to watch. And I remember listening to the commentary (or interview), in which Joss talked about how he had Angelus kill Jenny in vamp face, because otherwise the audience would never want to see him kiss Buffy again. What do you guys think about that? And that makes me think of how Spike was not in vamp face during the AR. And he never kissed Buffy again. Oh. Good point. Huh. |
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Post by jeff on Jun 14, 2007 16:58:24 GMT -5
And that makes me think of how Spike was not in vamp face during the AR. And he never kissed Buffy again. Oh. Good point. Huh. I agree , the vamp face really shows the seperation between human emotion and monstrous acts. Even though humans can sometimes do monstrous things, and even demons can show compassion and human emotion. Showing the face was the right thing to do. If Angel had killed Jenny with a human face it would have dramatically changed the way he was viewed by people. To this day I still have to fast foward through the whole bathroom scene between Spike and Buffy. I just can't watch it. Not that him having the Vamp face would have made the act any less monstrous, it would have taken out some of the human emotion side of it. It still would have been disturbing mind you, just not as, for me anyway. |
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