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Post by William the Bloody on Sept 6, 2003 16:47:16 GMT -5
Written by Marti Noxon
Directed by james Whitmore Jr.
Air date: 4/28/98
Sunnydale High School is haunted by the ghosts of a former student and teacher who reenact their tragic romance through the bodies of the school's current inhabitants.
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Post by jeff on Jun 21, 2007 14:58:05 GMT -5
I always love a good ole fashion ghost story. This one was a great one. All characters really shine in this one. Especially DB. When Angel gets possessed, I do beleive it was one of his best acting jobs I have seen him do.
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Post by jeff on Jun 21, 2007 15:20:00 GMT -5
A common theme I noticed in this episode was assumptions. 1. Snyder assuming Buffy was at fault with the first incident at the school. 2. Giles assuming that the ghost is Jenny. 3. Buffy assuming that the guy was all horrible and should pay for what he did no matter what the reason was and that she should be the one to make him pay 4. Angel assuming that Spike is a "special needs boy" and is limited on what he can accomplish. 5. The teacher assuming there is no way the relationship between her and James would never work. 6. James assuming that there is no reason to live after killing her, thus killing himself. Of course there is always the saying "you know what happens when you Assume? you make and ASS out of U and Me.  that was just a few of the assumptions that I noticed. |
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Post by Lola m on Jun 21, 2007 19:47:29 GMT -5
A common theme I noticed in this episode was assumptions. 1. Snyder assuming Buffy was at fault with the first incident at the school. 2. Giles assuming that the ghost is Jenny. 3. Buffy assuming that the guy was all horrible and should pay for what he did no matter what the reason was and that she should be the one to make him pay 4. Angel assuming that Spike is a "special needs boy" and is limited on what he can accomplish. 5. The teacher assuming there is no way the relationship between her and James would never work. 6. James assuming that there is no reason to live after killing her, thus killing himself. Of course there is always the saying "you know what happens when you Assume? you make and ASS out of U and Me. that was just a few of the assumptions that I noticed. **nods a lot** And a subtle assumption that the audience could have been making - that the female teacher would possess Buffy and the male student would possess Angel. Rather than vice versa. Which I've always thought was an ingenious way to go with the story. Because Buffy is a better match for James, really. Not to mention that this is the only way the ghosts can be freed - since Angel can be shot/killed and yet still un-live. Interesting how you can sort of parallel this with using Angel to lure out and destroy Eyghon in The Dark Age. |
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Post by jeff on Jun 21, 2007 20:33:58 GMT -5
A common theme I noticed in this episode was assumptions. 1. Snyder assuming Buffy was at fault with the first incident at the school. 2. Giles assuming that the ghost is Jenny. 3. Buffy assuming that the guy was all horrible and should pay for what he did no matter what the reason was and that she should be the one to make him pay 4. Angel assuming that Spike is a "special needs boy" and is limited on what he can accomplish. 5. The teacher assuming there is no way the relationship between her and James would never work. 6. James assuming that there is no reason to live after killing her, thus killing himself. Of course there is always the saying "you know what happens when you Assume? you make and ASS out of U and Me. that was just a few of the assumptions that I noticed. **nods a lot** And a subtle assumption that the audience could have been making - that the female teacher would possess Buffy and the male student would possess Angel. Rather than vice versa. Which I've always thought was an ingenious way to go with the story. Because Buffy is a better match for James, really. Not to mention that this is the only way the ghosts can be freed - since Angel can be shot/killed and yet still un-live. Interesting how you can sort of parallel this with using Angel to lure out and destroy Eyghon in The Dark Age. that is interesting, I remember Angel saying in that episode that he has had a demon in him for years, just waiting for a fight. Thinking of that I wonder how the demon felt about being possessed by a ghost? It was not like there was any internal struggle there. Just a thought. I know, I know , its just a tv show dammit. ROFL. |
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Post by Lola m on Jun 22, 2007 11:46:32 GMT -5
**nods a lot** And a subtle assumption that the audience could have been making - that the female teacher would possess Buffy and the male student would possess Angel. Rather than vice versa. Which I've always thought was an ingenious way to go with the story. Because Buffy is a better match for James, really. Not to mention that this is the only way the ghosts can be freed - since Angel can be shot/killed and yet still un-live. Interesting how you can sort of parallel this with using Angel to lure out and destroy Eyghon in The Dark Age. that is interesting, I remember Angel saying in that episode that he has had a demon in him for years, just waiting for a fight. Thinking of that I wonder how the demon felt about being possessed by a ghost? It was not like there was any internal struggle there. Just a thought. I know, I know , its just a tv show dammit. ROFL. Heee! ;D Nuthin' wrong with wondering about anything you want, in my book. Heck, look at the amount of discussion we've generated simply about Spike's . . . pants. Angelus was obviously angry about the possession, but that's 'cuz he was cranky about the "in love with Buffy" thing. (Although, methinks he protests too much.) But did the demon in Angelus actually not have a problem with the murderous ghost thing, because, hey! Ghost! Murder! |
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Post by jeff on Jun 22, 2007 14:52:30 GMT -5
that is interesting, I remember Angel saying in that episode that he has had a demon in him for years, just waiting for a fight. Thinking of that I wonder how the demon felt about being possessed by a ghost? It was not like there was any internal struggle there. Just a thought. I know, I know , its just a tv show dammit. ROFL. Heee! ;D Nuthin' wrong with wondering about anything you want, in my book. Heck, look at the amount of discussion we've generated simply about Spike's . . . pants. Angelus was obviously angry about the possession, but that's 'cuz he was cranky about the "in love with Buffy" thing. (Although, methinks he protests too much.) But did the demon in Angelus actually not have a problem with the murderous ghost thing, because, hey! Ghost! Murder! But it had a problem with Eyghon who, hey, demon, wanting to kill people. Angelus's (the Demon's) problem was the whole love thing not the possession thing IMO. It just seems to me if he had a problem with Angel's body being possessed by Eyghon then it should have had a problem being possessed by a ghost of a high school kid who killed a person. To me it made it seem as if the demon was either A. too weak to stop the ghost or B. Didn't know the ghost was actually there or C. Let the ghost in and didn't mind it being there. I don't know, to me the whole ghost possessing a Demon possessing a body thing is not making much sense to me. It was a great story, I just never really thoguht about it until you mentioned Eyghon and the demon's reaction to Eyghon trying to invade its body. |
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Post by Lola m on Jun 22, 2007 16:26:07 GMT -5
Heee! ;D Nuthin' wrong with wondering about anything you want, in my book. Heck, look at the amount of discussion we've generated simply about Spike's . . . pants. Angelus was obviously angry about the possession, but that's 'cuz he was cranky about the "in love with Buffy" thing. (Although, methinks he protests too much.) But did the demon in Angelus actually not have a problem with the murderous ghost thing, because, hey! Ghost! Murder! But it had a problem with Eyghon who, hey, demon, wanting to kill people. Angelus's (the Demon's) problem was the whole love thing not the possession thing IMO. It just seems to me if he had a problem with Angel's body being possessed by Eyghon then it should have had a problem being possessed by a ghost of a high school kid who killed a person. To me it made it seem as if the demon was either A. too weak to stop the ghost or B. Didn't know the ghost was actually there or C. Let the ghost in and didn't mind it being there. I don't know, to me the whole ghost possessing a Demon possessing a body thing is not making much sense to me. It was a great story, I just never really thoguht about it until you mentioned Eyghon and the demon's reaction to Eyghon trying to invade its body. Hmmm. True. 'Cuz it fought and killed Eyghon. Maybe being all possessive? Like, no other demon gets to have this body, it's my body! Or something like that? Which would likely mean the demon wasn't happy about the ghost too, then, so I think you're right. Angelus had lots of reasons to not be happy about presumptuous ghosty. |
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