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Post by Sue on Apr 23, 2011 23:26:35 GMT -5
Well.
I'm not totally against the doctor dying at 1100+ years old but ..... if he dies in Matt Smith's body then that would imply that he never has any additional regenerations and that would seem to be a problem.
So I'm going to guess that they change history.
Also: I realize that one of the reasons that I like Doctor Who is because it keeps moving along. It's rarely boring. Stuff happens really fast.
But inside-out relationship of River Song and The Doctor is very sad though.
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Post by Riff on Apr 24, 2011 9:18:00 GMT -5
Well. I'm not totally against the doctor dying at 1100+ years old but ..... if he dies in Matt Smith's body then that would imply that he never has any additional regenerations and that would seem to be a problem. So I'm going to guess that they change history. Also: I realize that one of the reasons that I like Doctor Who is because it keeps moving along. It's rarely boring. Stuff happens really fast. But inside-out relationship of River Song and The Doctor is very sad though. The Doctor will live for as long as he is commercially viable. And when he becomes commercially viable again he will be resurrected. ;D The River and the Doctor thing is sad, but it's also sweet and funny. |
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Apr 24, 2011 12:41:00 GMT -5
It's possible that The Doctor can be killed for real for permanent and actually in this 11 version - because he branched off at 10.5. David Tennant could regenerate again and we'd have a half human Doctor with Issues to play with.
It's not the only possibility. But everyone saying 11 can't be dead-dead for Doylist reasons is overstating things a bit. Doctor Who can survive while this Doctor stays dead.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 24, 2011 20:20:01 GMT -5
Well. I'm not totally against the doctor dying at 1100+ years old but ..... if he dies in Matt Smith's body then that would imply that he never has any additional regenerations and that would seem to be a problem. So I'm going to guess that they change history. Also: I realize that one of the reasons that I like Doctor Who is because it keeps moving along. It's rarely boring. Stuff happens really fast. But inside-out relationship of River Song and The Doctor is very sad though. The Doctor will live for as long as he is commercially viable. And when he becomes commercially viable again he will be resurrected. ;D The River and the Doctor thing is sad, but it's also sweet and funny. Sad and sweet and funny indeed. I loved her description of them moving in different directions. Hey, for them as is interested . . . . a chart with timelines for the Doctor and River Song I am told there are no spoilers in the chart, but if you hunt down the original posting (Tumblr & Reddit, I believe), there are spoilers in the comments. |
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Post by Lola m on Apr 24, 2011 20:21:04 GMT -5
Also? New Space Men aliens/villains (we presume) are scary!!!  |
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Post by Queen E on Apr 25, 2011 0:07:32 GMT -5
There's an interesting metaphor here: The Doctor dies in America. I know our adaptations of British programs can really suck, but...  |
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Post by Karen on Apr 25, 2011 9:43:13 GMT -5
There's an interesting metaphor here: The Doctor dies in America. I know our adaptations of British programs can really suck, but... !! Interesting!  As an aside, I'm enjoying the US version of Being Human. |
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Post by Karen on Apr 25, 2011 9:46:06 GMT -5
Well. I'm not totally against the doctor dying at 1100+ years old but ..... if he dies in Matt Smith's body then that would imply that he never has any additional regenerations and that would seem to be a problem. So I'm going to guess that they change history. Also: I realize that one of the reasons that I like Doctor Who is because it keeps moving along. It's rarely boring. Stuff happens really fast. But inside-out relationship of River Song and The Doctor is very sad though. The Doctor will live for as long as he is commercially viable. And when he becomes commercially viable again he will be resurrected. ;D The River and the Doctor thing is sad, but it's also sweet and funny. Song/Who is all of that. And the scene between Rory and River where she explains their relationship, especially bittersweet, because Rory could relate. I am sure there is a parallel there that you could explain more thoroughly. (Hi Riff!) |
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Post by Riff on Apr 27, 2011 8:12:15 GMT -5
It's possible that The Doctor can be killed for real for permanent and actually in this 11 version - because he branched off at 10.5. David Tennant could regenerate again and we'd have a half human Doctor with Issues to play with. It's not the only possibility. But everyone saying 11 can't be dead-dead for Doylist reasons is overstating things a bit. Doctor Who can survive while this Doctor stays dead. I suspect the Doctor will be dead and will not. His death will ensure his life perhaps? I'm just thinking of some grand Moffat paradox as the most likely solution. |
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Post by Riff on Apr 27, 2011 8:16:20 GMT -5
The Doctor will live for as long as he is commercially viable. And when he becomes commercially viable again he will be resurrected. ;D The River and the Doctor thing is sad, but it's also sweet and funny. Sad and sweet and funny indeed. I loved her description of them moving in different directions. Hey, for them as is interested . . . . a chart with timelines for the Doctor and River Song I am told there are no spoilers in the chart, but if you hunt down the original posting (Tumblr & Reddit, I believe), there are spoilers in the comments. Mind you, things work out so well for River that it can't be truly sad. She's so happy and at peace at the end of Forest of the Dead. What I think is great is that we will one day be able to watch River's episodes in her chronological order. I have high hopes for that, in fact.  |
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Post by Riff on Apr 27, 2011 8:25:34 GMT -5
Also? New Space Men aliens/villains (we presume) are scary!!! Indeed! People have referred to the Greys and the Men in Black, but Moffat may also have been drawing on the Slender Man. If you don't know this fantastic internet myth, check google and YouTube (the ongoing project Marble Hornets, for example). Since Moffat's son Joshua is a YouTuber, I wouldn't be surprised if he told his dad about it. Note that the BBC have posted two security camera films of the Silents, both called "are real". They flicker but there is no Silent in them. Or is there? They are very similar to some Slender Man "sightings" on YouTube. |
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Post by Riff on Apr 27, 2011 8:27:26 GMT -5
There's an interesting metaphor here: The Doctor dies in America. I know our adaptations of British programs can really suck, but... Well, Jon Pertwee did. And the US ratings for the 1996 TV movie were... funereal. |
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Post by Riff on Apr 27, 2011 8:34:34 GMT -5
The Doctor will live for as long as he is commercially viable. And when he becomes commercially viable again he will be resurrected. ;D The River and the Doctor thing is sad, but it's also sweet and funny. Song/Who is all of that. And the scene between Rory and River where she explains their relationship, especially bittersweet, because Rory could relate. I am sure there is a parallel there that you could explain more thoroughly. (Hi Riff!) Hello, Karen! We're in for all kinds of revelations this series. The secret of who River is (which will be he Doctor's "darkest hour", according to her in the trailer). Amy has some sort of secret about her real association with the Doctor. The Doctor has secrets and agendas. The Moff was going easy on us last year, you know. He says they're going proper dark, not David Lynch, but proper dark.  |
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Apr 30, 2011 14:00:14 GMT -5
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Post by Riff on May 3, 2011 6:44:16 GMT -5
What exactly are the silence up to? Have a look at the image below.  It appears to be a bench for some sort of medical procedure. A human being would lie on it with his or her head/face in that odd device at the top. The bench is angled toward a large rectangular aperture, which looks for all the world like it’s for... drainage. So what is it? As we see throughout the rest of the scene, a series of tubes lead from the bench and its mysterious canopy to a hole in the floor,  and on into the Silence’s tunnels where they lead directly to this door  and into the workings of the Lodger “TARDIS”? Green goo seems to have dripped onto the floor from the “console”. Tubes of some sort certainly feed into it.   And in this next image they definitely look like the same tubes.  Getting back to the bench itself, here is a closer view of the headset/facemask.  More worrying than anything else, Canton examines a number of the tubes. Here is a close up of what is attached to the end of one of them:  Is that a bone saw? That edge is serrated, isn’t it? Phew! I know we’ve heard the silence have “horrific” needs and that the show will be “proper dark”, but not this dark, surely? Any ideas? |
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