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Post by Queen E on Sept 16, 2011 11:36:02 GMT -5
Discuss!
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Sept 17, 2011 23:00:33 GMT -5
Didn't see that coming. It was right and appropriate, but I really didn't see that coming.  And it looks like the Doctor has taken a step back from the dark path of becoming a feared warrior - he realized what he was doing to his friends, and he let them go. Also, God Complex? A fair description of the Doctor's mindset these days, but perhaps a wee bit heavyhanded. So, what was in the Doctor's room? Himself? All the people he let down (see "Let's Kill Hitler")? Guesses, anyone? |
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Post by spacecat1974 on Sept 18, 2011 1:38:32 GMT -5
My guess would be an astronaut.
Nice way to end things with the companions, that's for sure. Can't wait to meet the next companion!
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Post by beccaelizabeth on Sept 18, 2011 2:04:40 GMT -5
Didn't see that coming. It was right and appropriate, but I really didn't see that coming. And it looks like the Doctor has taken a step back from the dark path of becoming a feared warrior - he realized what he was doing to his friends, and he let them go. Also, God Complex? A fair description of the Doctor's mindset these days, but perhaps a wee bit heavyhanded. So, what was in the Doctor's room? Himself? All the people he let down (see "Let's Kill Hitler")? Guesses, anyone? He's go nobody around to check him, to reflect at him, to tell him when he's forgetting to be a person. He's cutting himself off from feedback. This isn't likely to make him a kinder gentler person. Plus, realised what he was doing? In what sense? He doesn't want to get them killed... after making a lot of references to them as children. That's not going to smooth out the god complex. If he doesn't see other people as equals he's going to continue being a git. |
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Sept 18, 2011 8:48:10 GMT -5
Didn't see that coming. It was right and appropriate, but I really didn't see that coming. And it looks like the Doctor has taken a step back from the dark path of becoming a feared warrior - he realized what he was doing to his friends, and he let them go. Also, God Complex? A fair description of the Doctor's mindset these days, but perhaps a wee bit heavyhanded. So, what was in the Doctor's room? Himself? All the people he let down (see "Let's Kill Hitler")? Guesses, anyone? He's go nobody around to check him, to reflect at him, to tell him when he's forgetting to be a person. He's cutting himself off from feedback. This isn't likely to make him a kinder gentler person. Plus, realised what he was doing? In what sense? He doesn't want to get them killed... after making a lot of references to them as children. That's not going to smooth out the god complex. If he doesn't see other people as equals he's going to continue being a git. Good point about the Doctor's need for someone to check him, although it looked from the previews like he's working on that. Now, if we could just get River back into the mix, that'd help. My feeling, for what it's worth, is that the Doctor sees all humans as children, and Amy in particular, because that's when he first met her. I'm not saying he's perfect, but I do think he's considering the consequences of his actions on others, and that's a step in the right direction. This season has been kind of uneven that way; I wonder if it's intentional or just sloppy writing. |
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Post by Sue on Sept 18, 2011 15:19:09 GMT -5
Not sure I really believe that we've seen the last of Amy and Rory.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Sept 18, 2011 18:13:23 GMT -5
Well, at least this episode is generating discussion; according to Katherine, on her Dr Who forum, a whole lot of argumentation.
And somebody on Pharyngula (don't ask) suggested that what's in the Doctor's room is - River Song. Which now that I think about it makes sense; she did try to kill him.
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Post by Queen E on May 24, 2012 20:38:19 GMT -5
Well, at least this episode is generating discussion; according to Katherine, on her Dr Who forum, a whole lot of argumentation. And somebody on Pharyngula (don't ask) suggested that what's in the Doctor's room is - River Song. Which now that I think about it makes sense; she did try to kill him. I just rewatched this episode last night, and my guess is that the person in the Doctor's room--is himself. I think he's more scared of himself than anything else. Plus, it was Room 11. Just my thoughts. |
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Post by Sue on May 25, 2012 9:58:32 GMT -5
Well, at least this episode is generating discussion; according to Katherine, on her Dr Who forum, a whole lot of argumentation. And somebody on Pharyngula (don't ask) suggested that what's in the Doctor's room is - River Song. Which now that I think about it makes sense; she did try to kill him. I just rewatched this episode last night, and my guess is that the person in the Doctor's room--is himself. I think he's more scared of himself than anything else. Plus, it was Room 11. Just my thoughts. Totally agree. Noticed that BBC is re-showing the eps from season one (reboot -- Eccleston) so Jim and I rewatched 01/01 the other night and I'm recording the others. Eccleston was far more abrasive. Tennant was younger, Smith even younger. Thinking the next reboot will need to be someone more mature. |
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Post by Queen E on May 25, 2012 11:35:17 GMT -5
I just rewatched this episode last night, and my guess is that the person in the Doctor's room--is himself. I think he's more scared of himself than anything else. Plus, it was Room 11. Just my thoughts. Totally agree. Noticed that BBC is re-showing the eps from season one (reboot -- Eccleston) so Jim and I rewatched 01/01 the other night and I'm recording the others. Eccleston was far more abrasive. Tennant was younger, Smith even younger. Thinking the next reboot will need to be someone more mature. You know what's weird, though? Performance-wise, I think Smith reads older than either of them, even though he is physically the youngest. |
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Post by Sue on May 25, 2012 12:09:43 GMT -5
Totally agree. Noticed that BBC is re-showing the eps from season one (reboot -- Eccleston) so Jim and I rewatched 01/01 the other night and I'm recording the others. Eccleston was far more abrasive. Tennant was younger, Smith even younger. Thinking the next reboot will need to be someone more mature. You know what's weird, though? Performance-wise, I think Smith reads older than either of them, even though he is physically the youngest. You may be right in that the character is working toward coming to terms with his personal history. Eccleston is pretty raw and reacts fairly (word?) um reactionarily (like a teen might to criticism or advice from an adult). Tennent is starting to be more introspective and Smith seems to be somewhat resigned but also forgiving of himself and others -- which, yes, I would call a sign of maturity. |
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