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Post by Pixi on Jul 11, 2005 10:17:34 GMT -5
Alright so I was surprised at this I must admit.
Kudos again to Rob Thomas for never doing anything expected. What did we all expect? (or at least what did the majority of speculation, fanfic, etc all indicate?)
That Logan would be angry at Veronica, that there would be huge fallout from her being behind him being accused of killing Lilly by the police or that Logan would feel so guilty about what his Dad did to Veronica that he wouldn't be able to cope and would fall apart, drink heavily, become the Veronica of Neptune High or run away.
And that they wouldn't get back together before November sweeps.
Instead it seems everything is normal. Neither she nor Logan are being ostracized or pursued by paparazzi or anything we all speculated on.
So, since Rob has indicated that they have a rocky road ahead and Logan seems to be acting all possessive and jealous - what horrible things are upcoming?
I am trying to prepare myself for Duncan stuff. But I'm going to be sitting right over there in Logan's corner mad at Veronica if she goes back to Duncan.
Is there a new girlfriend in the offing for Logan? Is the trophy wife or new wild child going to come between them.
GRRRRRRR - I so want to just see them as a couple, fighting, angsting, solving cases together, worried, snarky, smoopy - all the things involved in being a couple.
I don't want to see them macking on others.
Sigh!
But since RT is completely spinning us all around with his first episode I just have to trust him.
What does everyone else think? What lies ahead?
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Post by raenstorm on Jul 11, 2005 11:03:13 GMT -5
My thoughts on it...
What we've seen gives us no indication of what happened during the summer so I'm not positive that there wasn't fallout for her turning him in or what Aaron did to her. But, when you start the story 4 months AFTER the last events we got to see on-screen, I didn't expect us to start where we left off.
So, I'm not ready to agree that Rob isn't going to do what we thought he'd do. I need to hear more about what happened in those months in between before we know that for sure. Plus, it seems odd to me that V is trying for a 'regular' job now and that she has given up doing investigating at school. What caused that? Something obviously changed during the summer because Veronica isn't the type to give up those things easily...
Oh - and? I have to admit I always figured she and Logan would be back together before the show started back up. We still have no idea who was at the door or what happened but I didn't think Veronica would give up on Logan so quickly... there were sparks and those don't just go away. I'm happy to see that they are together but am afraid for what lies ahead. There doesn't have to be much outside interference for their relationship to have a rocky time... consider the foundations on which it was built.
Moving on... it bothers me to hear that Duncan and Logan aren't talking. I was hoping that we'd see they are better friends than that. Though, Logan's kiss and greeting to Veronica have me thinking he's just trying to get a rise out of Duncan and he wouldn't do that if he didn't feel something towards Duncan. Though I don't want V and Duncan to end up together, I do want Logan and Duncan's friendship to survive.
Mostly, I'm trying NOT to think about what the spoilers mean or predict where we're going with those scenes. I don't want to have any expectations for this season because, if they aren't met, I'm likely to be disappointed. I think that's why I have avoided thinking about who is at the door - because when I really think over each person it could be, I end up really wanting it to be just ONE person and I know that is trouble.
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Post by Pixi on Jul 11, 2005 11:41:17 GMT -5
Good points.
I agree - we don't know what happened over the summer. I'm hoping for lots and lots of flashbacks - particularly the door flashback.
Hmmm - I guess I don't really want to see Duncan and Logan friendship. I would like to see more of Duncan's rage and anger issues (though please not in a meltdown way because I, unlike others, was not impressed at the car bashing).
I think my issues with Duncan - where he was okay, he was boring, he was terrible up to A Trip to the Dentist - just solidified into outright dislike with the whole sleeping with my supposed sister gig. I just really dislike him.
I'm sorry for the actor but then again, that's all part of the acting gig. If you are playing a dislikable character, usually the audience is going to dislike you.
That is unless you are Jason Dohring and you play the character with so much talent, charisma and intensity that the audience falls for you no matter how big a jackass you are being.
I'm guessing the reason Veronica is working a "normal" job is either Daddy put his foot down as he threatened to do once before or Veronica herself is trying to be "normal", thinking that now that Lilly's mystery is solved she can try and let all this go.
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Post by raenstorm on Jul 14, 2005 7:47:57 GMT -5
Just passing along the info that there are new spoilers/sides out. I haven't looked at them this time *tries to stay strong* but I thought I'd pass along the info that they are out there. Since I haven't looked, I also did not go searching them down this time. If you want to see them, you can probably find more info on how to get 'em over on the TWOP VM Spoiler Thread.
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Post by Pixi on Jul 14, 2005 9:39:57 GMT -5
Just passing along the info that there are new spoilers/sides out. I haven't looked at them this time *tries to stay strong* but I thought I'd pass along the info that they are out there. Since I haven't looked, I also did not go searching them down this time. If you want to see them, you can probably find more info on how to get 'em over on the TWOP VM Spoiler Thread. Awww - what a good girl you are. I think they came out a couple of days ago. I'm bad - I read them. They are chock full of confusing tidbits. And just to whet your curiosity - there's a new Logan side out. (walks off whistling innocently ) ;D I'm so evil.
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Post by raenstorm on Jul 14, 2005 14:19:19 GMT -5
Just passing along the info that there are new spoilers/sides out. I haven't looked at them this time *tries to stay strong* but I thought I'd pass along the info that they are out there. Since I haven't looked, I also did not go searching them down this time. If you want to see them, you can probably find more info on how to get 'em over on the TWOP VM Spoiler Thread. Awww - what a good girl you are. I think they came out a couple of days ago. I'm bad - I read them. They are chock full of confusing tidbits. And just to whet your curiosity - there's a new Logan side out. (walks off whistling innocently ) ;D I'm so evil. You *ARE* evil... and now I will have to go read it. *sigh* Anyway... here's a UPN press release from today: CHARISMA CARPENTER AND STEVE GUTTENBERG JOIN THE CAST OF UPN'S "VERONICA MARS"
Charisma Carpenter ("Angel") and Steve Guttenberg ("The Poseidon Adventure") have joined the cast of UPN's VERONICA MARS, beginning with the critically acclaimed drama's second season premiere.
Carpenter will play Kendall Casablancas, a sexy trophy wife and stepmother to brothers Dick (Ryan Hansen) and Cassidy "Beaver" (Kyle Gallner) Casablancas, two of Veronica's (Kristen Bell) rival, affluent schoolmates. She will appear in at least six episodes. Meanwhile, Guttenberg will star as Woody Goodman, a charismatic major league baseball team owner and leading candidate in the local race for mayor of Neptune, Calif. To show his support for the community, his daughter will be transferring from her private school to Neptune High. He will appear in at least seven episodes.
VERONICA MARS stars Kristen Bell ("Reefer Madness") as a smart, fearless 18-year-old apprentice private investigator dedicated to solving the toughest mysteries of her wealthy seaside community, Neptune, Calif., where the rich and powerful make the rules, own the town and the high school, and desperately try to keep their dirty little secrets just that...secret.
Carpenter recently completed shooting the feature film "Voodoo Moon" opposite Eric Maibus. In television, she portrayed the character Cordelia Chase for seven years on the hit series "Angel" and "Buffy The Vampire Slayer," after originally being featured in a recurring role. Later, she returned to "Angel" for one episode as a guest star for the series' landmark 100th episode.
In television, Carpenter recently guest starred on "LAX" with Heather Locklear, as well as on several episodes of "Charmed." She also co-starred on "Miss Match" with Alicia Silverstone and Ryan O'Neal. In addition, Carpenter starred in the title role of the television movie "See Jane Date," based on the book by Melissa Senate. She has also appeared in several other television shows and feature films.
Steve Guttenberg, who has starred in a dozen films that earned in excess of $100,000,000 at the American box office, is the star of the upcoming television movie "The Poseidon Adventure." The actor starred in four successful series of films: "Police Academy," "Three Men And A Baby," "Short Circuit" and "Cocoon," as well as such acclaimed dramatic hits as "Diner" and "The Boys From Brazil."
His television credits include the mini-series "The Day After" and "Miracle On Ice."
He has a number of directorial efforts, including "P.S., Your Cat Is Dead," the film version of the respected James Kirkpatrick play, which Guttenberg also starred in, wrote and produced.
VERONICA MARS is from Silver Pictures Television, in association with and distributed by Warner Bros. Television Production Inc. Production services provided by Stu Segall Productions, Inc. The show airs Wednesdays (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on UPN.Sorry, Pixi Good for Erin and Sara for guessing, though.
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Post by raenstorm on Jul 14, 2005 14:20:40 GMT -5
You know... I NEVER would have guessed Steve G. for that role and now it totally changes my view of what Jackie will be like.
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Post by raenstorm on Jul 14, 2005 14:29:01 GMT -5
Just passing along the info that there are new spoilers/sides out. I haven't looked at them this time *tries to stay strong* but I thought I'd pass along the info that they are out there. Since I haven't looked, I also did not go searching them down this time. If you want to see them, you can probably find more info on how to get 'em over on the TWOP VM Spoiler Thread. Awww - what a good girl you are. I think they came out a couple of days ago. I'm bad - I read them. They are chock full of confusing tidbits. And just to whet your curiosity - there's a new Logan side out. (walks off whistling innocently ) ;D I'm so evil. YOU ARE EVIL!! Is it the one with him on the bridge? Tell me! (Ok, confession... I've read them all now... DAMN MY INABILITY TO STAY AWAY!!!)
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Post by leftylady on Jul 14, 2005 17:26:01 GMT -5
Awww - what a good girl you are. I think they came out a couple of days ago. I'm bad - I read them. They are chock full of confusing tidbits. And just to whet your curiosity - there's a new Logan side out. (walks off whistling innocently ) ;D I'm so evil. YOU ARE EVIL!! Is it the one with him on the bridge? Tell me! (Ok, confession... I've read them all now... DAMN MY INABILITY TO STAY AWAY!!!) Yes, EVIL, EVIL, EVIL!!!! I wasn't going to fall to the temptation of spoilers for VM, but you're trying to lead us all down the garden path!!! I'm going to stay strong and not read the latest, but I am relieved to know that Veronica's "boyfriend" is NOT the Doughnut.
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Post by Pixi on Jul 15, 2005 6:52:47 GMT -5
Well color me surprised. I thought Charisma would be too old for the role. I was wrong. Erin - you were right. I bow before your superior knowledge.
And Steve Guttenberg? Steve Guttenberg?
Wow! Just Wow!
Okay - hopefully this will generate buzz. I'm excited. I'm really excited.
Oh and yes - I'm evil.
And Rae - yes, the one on the bridge. Hee, hee.
Why must I resist a temptation to say - made you look?
See - now I would be throwing things at me right now. ;D
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Post by raenstorm on Jul 15, 2005 22:27:19 GMT -5
Well color me surprised. I thought Charisma would be too old for the role. I was wrong. Erin - you were right. I bow before your superior knowledge. And Steve Guttenberg? Steve Guttenberg? Wow! Just Wow! Okay - hopefully this will generate buzz. I'm excited. I'm really excited. Oh and yes - I'm evil. And Rae - yes, the one on the bridge. Hee, hee. Why must I resist a temptation to say - made you look? See - now I would be throwing things at me right now. ;D I don't think CC is too old. She looks fabulous and I can actually buy her in that role more than I bought Aly as Trina (I warmed up to her in HD but I wouldn't want her around too often). It should be interesting but I hope they'll have a good explaination for what happened to the first Mrs. Casablancas and how quickly the new marriage takes place. Ya know? I'm excited about Steve G. I love him and I'm happy to have him on the show.
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Post by Pixi on Jul 16, 2005 5:21:28 GMT -5
Well color me surprised. I thought Charisma would be too old for the role. I was wrong. Erin - you were right. I bow before your superior knowledge. And Steve Guttenberg? Steve Guttenberg? Wow! Just Wow! Okay - hopefully this will generate buzz. I'm excited. I'm really excited. Oh and yes - I'm evil. And Rae - yes, the one on the bridge. Hee, hee. Why must I resist a temptation to say - made you look? See - now I would be throwing things at me right now. ;D I don't think CC is too old. She looks fabulous and I can actually buy her in that role more than I bought Aly as Trina (I warmed up to her in HD but I wouldn't want her around too often). It should be interesting but I hope they'll have a good explaination for what happened to the first Mrs. Casablancas and how quickly the new marriage takes place. Ya know? I'm excited about Steve G. I love him and I'm happy to have him on the show. Yea - I'm excited about Steve. I've always liked him. True CC does look great. I just somehow got the impression they would go with a mid-20's type actress. CC is too old to be a trophy wife in RL but she can play younger - after all she did it in Buffy and all the VM teens are all in their 20's. So I'm happy for her to land such a prestigious gig. As for AH - I am in the camp that she was totally miscast. I just didn't buy her as Trina and she seemed like she was trying (acting) too hard in her scenes. To be fair - the role wasn't that big and perhaps given time she could have done better. CC on the other hand - does do snarky biotch well. This casting plays to her strengths. So I think I could buy her in this more than I bought AH.
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Post by Pixi on Jul 16, 2005 7:21:42 GMT -5
Ohhh - cast appearance at ComicCon yesterday and when asked if Veronica was ready to move beyond the rape and have a sexual relationship this year - RT said yes.
I'm hoping that mean Logan shirtless and some L/V nookie. Wheeee!!!!!
Interesting to read RL reports of the actors - Jason seems quiet and intense and TD, FC - much more cutups.
And I guess CC was on a role. She was asked to describe her character and the words were:
A bitch in a bikini in the first episode.
Hee, hee.
RT was very appreciative of fan support, sounds like a fun time was had by all. Lots more info by those attending - including random fun things over at TWOP.
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Post by raenstorm on Jul 16, 2005 10:02:20 GMT -5
Ohhh - cast appearance at ComicCon yesterday and when asked if Veronica was ready to move beyond the rape and have a sexual relationship this year - RT said yes. I'm hoping that mean Logan shirtless and some L/V nookie. Wheeee!!!!! Interesting to read RL reports of the actors - Jason seems quiet and intense and TD, FC - much more cutups. And I guess CC was on a role. She was asked to describe her character and the words were: A bitch in a bikini in the first episode. Hee, hee. RT was very appreciative of fan support, sounds like a fun time was had by all. Lots more info by those attending - including random fun things over at TWOP. The reports are all so fabulous! I'm not a big fan convention girl 'cuz I don't really want to meet the actors but I'm sooooo JEALOUS right now!
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Post by Pixi on Jul 16, 2005 17:18:53 GMT -5
Ohhh - cast appearance at ComicCon yesterday and when asked if Veronica was ready to move beyond the rape and have a sexual relationship this year - RT said yes. I'm hoping that mean Logan shirtless and some L/V nookie. Wheeee!!!!! Interesting to read RL reports of the actors - Jason seems quiet and intense and TD, FC - much more cutups. And I guess CC was on a role. She was asked to describe her character and the words were: A bitch in a bikini in the first episode. Hee, hee. RT was very appreciative of fan support, sounds like a fun time was had by all. Lots more info by those attending - including random fun things over at TWOP. The reports are all so fabulous! I'm not a big fan convention girl 'cuz I don't really want to meet the actors but I'm sooooo JEALOUS right now! I did some ST cons back in the day but I kind of doubt I would go to one now. Just so much other things I have to spend money on. I've seen some of the pics posted online. What is up with TD''s hair? Hee, hee. Also Jason - the cut is a little too short. It looks like he just got it cut. I'm hoping it grows a little more before filming starts because I like his hair a little longer. Charisma looked fabulous. Thus concludes the shallow portion of my commentary. Hee, hee. Seriously - I would like to listen to RT. The man is very impressive in interviews and sounds like he would be fascinating fun to listen to.
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