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Post by Micha on Jul 13, 2003 8:51:43 GMT -5
Poor Little WaterScubie. I am a veteran of the moving wars and fully sympathize. Lost a needed item once and had to go through 36 boxes to find it. Part of it stems from being married to the pack rat from hell. Ian has every school report card he ever got. He has the design drawings from college, every award from his years in industry and when last we moved, 44 boxes worth of books! How wonderful to find another Trading Spaces watcher. Do you also like What Not to Wear? Oh. My. Goodness.... Thank heavens I didn't have that much junk to tote to the new place. I have maybe...*looks around and counts* nine semi-unpacked boxes left now, but those are all the worst ones (i.e. the ones with stuff I didn't know where to put in the old apartment let alone in the new place.) Yup. Love Trading Spaces. I'll watch What Not to Wear if I happen to catch it, but I won't go out of my way to watch it. Trading Spaces on the other hand I love. Especially Vern and "Uncle" Frank. And Paige, she is just the sweetest thing. Believe it or not, I prefer Amy-Wynn to Ty, I think he tries too hard to be funny. Reminds me of too many comedians I don't like (Jim Carrey springs to mind.) I also adore Changing Rooms (the British original) and I like how it shows a much more realistic outcome. Oh come on... You think Trading Spaces really does that room on $1000? They don't count all the supplies like paint brushes, painting tape, step ladders, paint trays nails, stapples.... need I go on? Anyone who has ever painted knows that a great deal of the money goes into the paint supplies. And you just know that these designers never pay full price. On last night's episode I watched Hildi pay $100 to an electrician for moving two outlets. Electricians charge more than that for even showing up at your house! (Okay okay, I'm ranting again. I'm over it now.) I could type all day about home reno. shows, but I had better not. The thesis calls. (Alright, alright, shut up already, I hear you! I'm coming, I'm coming!) Gotta dash, Micha
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Post by Joshua Adams on Jul 13, 2003 9:13:46 GMT -5
I so agree with you on this last bit Dave. This is definately one of my hot buttons. It really bothers me that our country which was founded, in part, on the principal of freedom to worship seems everyday to be tying Christianity with patriotism. I get so many e-mails that talk about God, Jesus and our great country and then say "forward this to 10 people you love and the one who sent it to you" - which I never do - that I'm starting to feel like the States are becoming one big Christian club that I'm not going to be a part of when I move home. (Not because of my religious beliefs, but because I hate being made to feel that I have to do or act a certain way in order to be accepted by the mainstream.) There endeth my rant, except to say that I've been lurking for a long time and it's only because I know you guys are such an open, intelligent and tolerant group that I have the nerve to say this. Revisionist history is a dangerous thing. You'll hear plenty of people trying to enact legislation go on and on about how this country was founded as Christian nation, despite the fact that any of our early documents are completely non-supportive of any religous institution and many of the founding father's were Deists. I'm sure most Americans don't realize that the pledge of allegiance is tied up with the Communist Red Scare nonsense of the 50's and congressmen of the 30's (give or take a few years) put the In God We Trust on the currency becuase they knew the president of the time would veto it, and they could thus go back to their home voters and make a show about voting for God. There are too many people today who seem to believe what they believe should be enforced by the government. I don't know what to say to people who think questioning the American government is somehow being un-patriotic.
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Post by Joshua Adams on Jul 13, 2003 9:16:04 GMT -5
Oh. My. Goodness.... Thank heavens I didn't have that much junk to tote to the new place. I have maybe...*looks around and counts* nine semi-unpacked boxes left now, but those are all the worst ones (i.e. the ones with stuff I didn't know where to put in the old apartment let alone in the new place.) Yup. Love Trading Spaces. I'll watch What Not to Wear if I happen to catch it, but I won't go out of my way to watch it. Trading Spaces on the other hand I love. Especially Vern and "Uncle" Frank. And Paige, she is just the sweetest thing. Believe it or not, I prefer Amy-Wynn to Ty, I think he tries too hard to be funny. Reminds me of too many comedians I don't like (Jim Carrey springs to mind.) I also adore Changing Rooms (the British original) and I like how it shows a much more realistic outcome. Oh come on... You think Trading Spaces really does that room on $1000? They don't count all the supplies like paint brushes, painting tape, step ladders, paint trays nails, stapples.... need I go on? Anyone who has ever painted knows that a great deal of the money goes into the paint supplies. And you just know that these designers never pay full price. On last night's episode I watched Hildi pay $100 to an electrician for moving two outlets. Electricians charge more than that for even showing up at your house! (Okay okay, I'm ranting again. I'm over it now.) I could type all day about home reno. shows, but I had better not. The thesis calls. (Alright, alright, shut up already, I hear you! I'm coming, I'm coming!) Gotta dash, Micha Good luck on that thesis, Micha. But stop ruining my happy Trading Spaces universe. TLC would never lie to me! NEVER!
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Post by RAKSHA on Jul 13, 2003 11:38:30 GMT -5
I so agree with you on this last bit Dave. This is definately one of my hot buttons. It really bothers me that our country which was founded, in part, on the principal of freedom to worship seems everyday to be tying Christianity with patriotism. I get so many e-mails that talk about God, Jesus and our great country and then say "forward this to 10 people you love and the one who sent it to you" - which I never do - that I'm starting to feel like the States are becoming one big Christian club that I'm not going to be a part of when I move home. (Not because of my religious beliefs, but because I hate being made to feel that I have to do or act a certain way in order to be accepted by the mainstream.) There endeth my rant, except to say that I've been lurking for a long time and it's only because I know you guys are such an open, intelligent and tolerant group that I have the nerve to say this. I must live in a different part of the country. I have never felt pressured to be patriotic or seen any official government attempt to exclude non-Christians from patriotic activities; and thank God I never get religious e-spam, just stupid spam with subject lines about mail order brides. I remember a time, back in childhood, when the rabbi, during temple services, used to mention how lucky we were to live in America. In my part of New England, criticising the government and demonstrating against the current administration's policies is more prevalent than public displays of patriotism. People, as individuals or as groups, can be stupid, arrogant and bigoted. But there is still a difference between the expression of individual and group opinions and public policy. Freedom of worship exists all over this country, and no one checks for patriotism when you enter the church, temple, mosque, or grove (don't know where wiccans usually worship), thank God. Gail
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Post by RAKSHA on Jul 13, 2003 11:47:22 GMT -5
There are too many people today who seem to believe what they believe should be enforced by the government. I don't know what to say to people who think questioning the American government is somehow being un-patriotic. I personallly don't know anyone who thinks that questioning the American government is un-patriotic. If you're thinking of the flap over the Dixie Chicks; I believe they were wrong to display the level of hatred towards the president that they did at a rock concert (rather than a political event) in another country while American soldiers were at war. It was inappropriate. That is my opinion. There was absolutely no official reaction from any government authority or agency. But people are free to express their opinions in the United States, and they did. Anyway, from what I've heard, the Dixie Chicks are as or more popular than they've ever been.
Gail,
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Post by Nickim on Jul 13, 2003 11:56:05 GMT -5
I'm sure most Americans don't realize that the pledge of allegiance is tied up with the Communist Red Scare nonsense of the 50's Actually written by a company that made flags, so they could sell more.
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Post by RAKSHA on Jul 13, 2003 12:03:15 GMT -5
Poor Little WaterScubie. I am a veteran of the moving wars and fully sympathize. Lost a needed item once and had to go through 36 boxes to find it. Part of it stems from being married to the pack rat from hell. Ian has every school report card he ever got. He has the design drawings from college, every award from his years in industry and when last we moved, 44 boxes worth of books! How wonderful to find another Trading Spaces watcher. Do you also like What Not to Wear? If TRADING SPACES is similar to CHANGING ROOMS, you should read this short fanfic I found at the Sandlot site, called "Changing Rooms". I have no idea to link; so if this URL doesn't work, go to www.the-sandlot.com and go to the "Humor" fiction section and I think it's on page 2. www.the-sandlot.com/fic.php?mode=fic&fic_id=446Gail
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Jul 13, 2003 12:35:34 GMT -5
If you want to have a viewing party when it arrives, PM me and we'll set up a time. sounds like a plan! Don't hold your breathe though, the site said the pics would be immediately sent out, the dvds would be sent when they received enough orders! I say MY order is enough to send my DVD, but...
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Jul 13, 2003 12:37:22 GMT -5
Poor Little WaterScubie. I am a veteran of the moving wars and fully sympathize. Lost a needed item once and had to go through 36 boxes to find it. Part of it stems from being married to the pack rat from hell. Ian has every school report card he ever got. He has the design drawings from college, every award from his years in industry and when last we moved, 44 boxes worth of books! How wonderful to find another Trading Spaces watcher. Do you also like What Not to Wear? *raises her hand twice* - I like them...but I haven't watched them in probably 8 months. Maybe there would actually be an episode I haven't seen 5 times now...
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Jul 13, 2003 12:50:57 GMT -5
Revisionist history is a dangerous thing. You'll hear plenty of people trying to enact legislation go on and on about how this country was founded as Christian nation, despite the fact that any of our early documents are completely non-supportive of any religous institution and many of the founding father's were Deists. I'm sure most Americans don't realize that the pledge of allegiance is tied up with the Communist Red Scare nonsense of the 50's and congressmen of the 30's (give or take a few years) put the In God We Trust on the currency becuase they knew the president of the time would veto it, and they could thus go back to their home voters and make a show about voting for God. There are too many people today who seem to believe what they believe should be enforced by the government. I don't know what to say to people who think questioning the American government is somehow being un-patriotic. Ya know...for someone who is so rarely here, Dave sure knows how to stir it up, doesn't it? Maybe it's something he learned in one of those Public Relations classes....can't wait til he's back with us full time...
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Post by Joshua Adams on Jul 13, 2003 13:15:48 GMT -5
I personallly don't know anyone who thinks that questioning the American government is un-patriotic. If you're thinking of the flap over the Dixie Chicks; I believe they were wrong to display the level of hatred towards the president that they did at a rock concert (rather than a political event) in another country while American soldiers were at war. It was inappropriate. That is my opinion. There was absolutely no official reaction from any government authority or agency. But people are free to express their opinions in the United States, and they did. Anyway, from what I've heard, the Dixie Chicks are as or more popular than they've ever been.
Gail, There were a whole lot of people who felt that peace protestors leading up to the most recent Gulf War were unpatriotic. From politicians to pundits filling the airwaves. There are always people trying to enforce morality, which stems from their religous views. Take congressman Santaurum (whose name I am undoubtedly misspelling) who equates gay sex with pedophilia. The Supreme Court couldn't even reach a unanimous decision that how adults have consensual sex is no business of the government. Marjuana is far less dangerous a drug than alcohol or cigarettes. Yet the US spends billions of dollars every year to fight (and lose) the war on drugs. The US is filled with laws restricting freedoms for cuases heralded by the "moral" majority. You'd feel different about the government and such non-government but highly politically active groups if it they wanted to make the things you do illegal.
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Post by Joshua Adams on Jul 13, 2003 13:20:31 GMT -5
Ya know...for someone who is so rarely here, Dave sure knows how to stir it up, doesn't it? Maybe it's something he learned in one of those Public Relations classes....can't wait til he's back with us full time... He's obviously religous and politically conservative, but he understands that our countries founding principles are tolerance, pluralism, and unity. A person who actually seems to believe in what he preaches both religously and politically. (Or maybe it's all a show to win votes among S'Cubies when he runs for public office in twelve years)
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Post by Laura on Jul 13, 2003 13:41:05 GMT -5
Ok, after the last rant-away post, here’s something fun… Alyson Hannigan was on the cover of the Sunday Times Culture section today (English paper) and she is looking really gorgeous. Wish I had a scanner so I could post to you all. It’s a close up of her face and her hair is short again… just touching the base of her neck. Of course the interview is a promo for "American Wedding", but there’s a little Buffy stuff: “I used to pester the show’s creator, Joss Whedon, to tell me all the future stories. Then, a couple of years ago, he told me all his plans – and most of them did not happen. So, after that, I told him: ‘I don’t wan to know a thing. I will take the twists as they com.’” Don’t you just wish she’d said what he told her that didn’t happen? I also liked this part: ‘With a name like Hannigan you would suspect an Irish background. She certainly has the looks and she says her father told her of deep roots in the Cork area. On a trip to London recently she took a few days off from a round of television interviews and went to Ireland to search out the Hannigan family history. “I drove a car down the M4, into Wales, took a ferry over and ended up in Cork. It was beautiful,” she says, seemingly unaware that most travelling American actresses need hand-holding to get to the film-company limo to take them 500yd to Gucci.’ One of the ferry ports from Wales is just 10 minutes walk from my house! Alice, after reading your description, I found the article on the Sunday Times Online, and posted it in the Interviews and Articles forum. It's there (in two parts) for anyone who wants to read it. Aly comes across as a lovely person (which we all knew anyway, but we want everybody to know it!).
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Post by Laura on Jul 13, 2003 13:45:46 GMT -5
Perhaps you can rename her Miss Kitty Absentio? LOL!!! Good idea! ;D
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Post by Becky H on Jul 13, 2003 14:35:48 GMT -5
If TRADING SPACES is similar to CHANGING ROOMS, you should read this short fanfic I found at the Sandlot site, called "Changing Rooms". I have no idea to link; so if this URL doesn't work, go to www.the-sandlot.com and go to the "Humor" fiction section and I think it's on page 2. www.the-sandlot.com/fic.php?mode=fic&fic_id=446Gail
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