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Post by karalee on Jul 12, 2003 23:14:39 GMT -5
Maybe us stay-at-homes can send our respective spouses and offspring to the movies (or just out in the yard) and have a pseudo-convention posting party to make up for it.
I haven't been to a convention since, let's see, a Dr Who con when Emily was three. I don't think I have the stamina anymore... ;D I tried to encourage everyone to come here but I had no takers. It must have been the promise of cow manure and grain flies that turned them off.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Jul 12, 2003 23:22:05 GMT -5
I went back and tried it again. The pictures on the picture page were going to a page that said it was no longer available. The pictures on the convention report page work. It must be something wrong on my end. I have seen those before and I noticed him holding my avatar picture. Is that the one you have framed? Please say you told me that once. I'm starting to doubt my memory and its disturbing me Yes, that's the picture! Now you have me! hmm...when I click on those pictures they still come up...however, they ARE still on the old site...(geocities...) and I'll let Vlad know they need to be put on the new site. I don't know why I can still get them. Freaky thing is...the pictures on the convention page AND the picture page are on the same old site. Let's not think about it any more ok? It makes my head hurt. I'll just let Vlad know when he is actually officially back from his vacation, and he'll fix it.
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Post by karalee on Jul 12, 2003 23:27:57 GMT -5
Yes, that's the picture! Now you have me! hmm...when I click on those pictures they still come up...however, they ARE still on the old site...(geocities...) and I'll let Vlad know they need to be put on the new site. I don't know why I can still get them. Freaky thing is...the pictures on the convention page AND the picture page are on the same old site. Let's not think about it any more ok? It makes my head hurt. I'll just let Vlad know when he is actually officially back from his vacation, and he'll fix it. Yes, no more thinky for me either. I am beginning to think that 12:30 should be my cutoff time. I just start saying weird(er) things after then. I have been gone all day but there hasn't been much posted so not much to catch up on.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Jul 12, 2003 23:31:40 GMT -5
Yes, no more thinky for me either. I am beginning to think that 12:30 should be my cutoff time. I just start saying weird(er) things after then. I have been gone all day but there hasn't been much posted so not much to catch up on. it's been really quiet....I've been reading Harry Potter most of the day, and working on stuff, but stayed online. Very few people here today.
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Post by DaveCrenshaw on Jul 12, 2003 23:37:47 GMT -5
Every so often, even though I have ad-blocking software, I get a row of ads at the top of the pages here. The one that struck me was a row of ads for Buffy-related links, including this one to the article that ran in Christianity Today magazine about a year ago, a Christian writer telling why BtVS isn't the immoral garbage that so many Christian sources want to make it out to be without ever actually viewing an episode so they know what they are talking about. www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/136/31.0.htmlI know we've talked about this article before on here, so a lot of us have seen it before. But for anyone who hasn't, it's a fascinating read, and quite unusual that it was carried in a Christian magazine and yet talks about why BtVS is a very healthy show for Christians to watch (although includes strong cautions toward kids watching). As a Christian, I get so irritated by Christian or Moral Majority-type groups who blast Buffy as immoral, paganistic trash. Most of them you can tell never actually watched an episode ever to really understand what it is they're complaining about, they're just upset over the concept (these are the people who would prefer every channel show Touched By An Angel 24-7, without commercial interruption). This article does an excellent job of countering that. In the article is also included a link to the listing by the Parents Television Council (a Christian group that irks me because they don't advertise themselves as such), in which Buffy was listed as the worst show on TV for several reasons, the funny one being it's depiction of witchcraft since Sabrina the Teenage Witch was listed as one of the ten BEST shows on TV, never mind the freakin' main character is a witch! I also get irked by Christian groups who tout themselves as being parental or family groups without really advertising their Christian foundation. If they really were a parents group with universal appeal, they wouldn't be classifying shows as bad because of their depiction of witchcraft since there are probably several Wicca families in this country (not to mention Atheists and Satanists) who find shows that find Touched By An Angel to be unfit for their children to watch on account of it's pushing of the whole God issue. Sorry, didn't mean to go off on a diatribe there. Yeah, I'm a Christian, but I'm also an American. And that means that while I don't agree with everyone else's religion or viewpoint (that is, I prefer to have my own that may or may not mirror yours), I do agree with their right as Americans to have those religions and viewpoints. While Christianity (including those people who sorta kinda believe there is a God but don't really worship) might be the dominant faith group in this country, we're still not a Christian nation and have never adopted a national religion on purpose; we need to always remember that when we start pushing our views and morals on other people, we become no better than those people who drove the Pilgrims, Puritans, etc. out of Europe because they had a viewpoint different than the majority there. Thus endeth the rant. I know, I know -- preaching to the choir.
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Post by karalee on Jul 12, 2003 23:38:44 GMT -5
Well Patti, I think I'm gonna call it a night. I did a lot of yelling at Jordan's game tonight (and caused a lot of people to move away from me. Wimps) and now my throat is sore. I'll talk to you tomorrow.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Jul 13, 2003 1:04:53 GMT -5
Every so often, even though I have ad-blocking software, I get a row of ads at the top of the pages here. The one that struck me was a row of ads for Buffy-related links, including this one to the article that ran in Christianity Today magazine about a year ago, a Christian writer telling why BtVS isn't the immoral garbage that so many Christian sources want to make it out to be without ever actually viewing an episode so they know what they are talking about. www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/136/31.0.htmlI know we've talked about this article before on here, so a lot of us have seen it before. But for anyone who hasn't, it's a fascinating read, and quite unusual that it was carried in a Christian magazine and yet talks about why BtVS is a very healthy show for Christians to watch (although includes strong cautions toward kids watching). As a Christian, I get so irritated by Christian or Moral Majority-type groups who blast Buffy as immoral, paganistic trash. Most of them you can tell never actually watched an episode ever to really understand what it is they're complaining about, they're just upset over the concept (these are the people who would prefer every channel show Touched By An Angel 24-7, without commercial interruption). This article does an excellent job of countering that. In the article is also included a link to the listing by the Parents Television Council (a Christian group that irks me because they don't advertise themselves as such), in which Buffy was listed as the worst show on TV for several reasons, the funny one being it's depiction of witchcraft since Sabrina the Teenage Witch was listed as one of the ten BEST shows on TV, never mind the freakin' main character is a witch! I also get irked by Christian groups who tout themselves as being parental or family groups without really advertising their Christian foundation. If they really were a parents group with universal appeal, they wouldn't be classifying shows as bad because of their depiction of witchcraft since there are probably several Wicca families in this country (not to mention Atheists and Satanists) who find shows that find Touched By An Angel to be unfit for their children to watch on account of it's pushing of the whole God issue. Sorry, didn't mean to go off on a diatribe there. Yeah, I'm a Christian, but I'm also an American. And that means that while I don't agree with everyone else's religion or viewpoint (that is, I prefer to have my own that may or may not mirror yours), I do agree with their right as Americans to have those religions and viewpoints. While Christianity (including those people who sorta kinda believe there is a God but don't really worship) might be the dominant faith group in this country, we're still not a Christian nation and have never adopted a national religion on purpose; we need to always remember that when we start pushing our views and morals on other people, we become no better than those people who drove the Pilgrims, Puritans, etc. out of Europe because they had a viewpoint different than the majority there. Thus endeth the rant. I know, I know -- preaching to the choir. Being as I have to log off so I can go SING in the choir in the morning, I'll just briefly do my 'uh huh, you're right again, Dave' routine....sigh...I can be such a bore... oh well, you're not logged on now anyway. Good night, if anyone is still here.
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Post by RAKSHA on Jul 13, 2003 2:55:44 GMT -5
Every so often, even though I have ad-blocking software, I get a row of ads at the top of the pages here. The one that struck me was a row of ads for Buffy-related links, including this one to the article that ran in Christianity Today magazine about a year ago, a Christian writer telling why BtVS isn't the immoral garbage that so many Christian sources want to make it out to be without ever actually viewing an episode so they know what they are talking about. www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/136/31.0.htmlI know we've talked about this article before on here, so a lot of us have seen it before. But for anyone who hasn't, it's a fascinating read, and quite unusual that it was carried in a Christian magazine and yet talks about why BtVS is a very healthy show for Christians to watch (although includes strong cautions toward kids watching). As a Christian, I get so irritated by Christian or Moral Majority-type groups who blast Buffy as immoral, paganistic trash. Most of them you can tell never actually watched an episode ever to really understand what it is they're complaining about, they're just upset over the concept (these are the people who would prefer every channel show Touched By An Angel 24-7, without commercial interruption). This article does an excellent job of countering that. In the article is also included a link to the listing by the Parents Television Council (a Christian group that irks me because they don't advertise themselves as such), in which Buffy was listed as the worst show on TV for several reasons, the funny one being it's depiction of witchcraft since Sabrina the Teenage Witch was listed as one of the ten BEST shows on TV, never mind the freakin' main character is a witch! I also get irked by Christian groups who tout themselves as being parental or family groups without really advertising their Christian foundation. If they really were a parents group with universal appeal, they wouldn't be classifying shows as bad because of their depiction of witchcraft since there are probably several Wicca families in this country (not to mention Atheists and Satanists) who find shows that find Touched By An Angel to be unfit for their children to watch on account of it's pushing of the whole God issue. Sorry, didn't mean to go off on a diatribe there. Yeah, I'm a Christian, but I'm also an American. And that means that while I don't agree with everyone else's religion or viewpoint (that is, I prefer to have my own that may or may not mirror yours), I do agree with their right as Americans to have those religions and viewpoints. While Christianity (including those people who sorta kinda believe there is a God but don't really worship) might be the dominant faith group in this country, we're still not a Christian nation and have never adopted a national religion on purpose; we need to always remember that when we start pushing our views and morals on other people, we become no better than those people who drove the Pilgrims, Puritans, etc. out of Europe because they had a viewpoint different than the majority there. I've read and enjoyed the article in Christianity Today. I don't have any objection to the Parents Television Council, or other Christian-focussed parents' groups, not advertising their Christian focus/attitude, UNLESS they are formerly affiliated with any religious institution. I'm not a member of any such group and don't plan on becoming one, but I don't know of any laws requiring such groups to identify their tendancies in their titles. I also believe that pushing, or not pushing Christian agendas via TV shows i.e. Touched By An Angel, is a matter for the TV networks and TV audiences to decide. Frankly, I'd rather watch a TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL marathon than one episode of "THE BACHELOR" or "BACHELORETTE" or the ghastly "FEAR FACTOR". I don't think the popularity of TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL is a danger to wicca groups or non-Christian religions, either. As for various pro-Christian fundamentalist groups pushing "TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL" while bashing BUFFY, well, it's a free country. I think it says something for the diverse tastes of the American public that BUFFY managed to last 7 seasons and AtvS is going into its? 5th. Gail
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Jul 13, 2003 6:39:28 GMT -5
Sue, at this point it seems about 50-50 as to who's seen her and who hasn't. I've resigned myself to little Miss Kitty's being off walking somewhere for now (I'll have to give her a flea bath when she comes home). Once she's over the flu, I hope that Betsy will be able to help me find my peripatetic kitten. (Sshh. I don't want to use the word "fix" in case Kitty's loitering about nearby.)
In the meantime, wave if you can see her! Perhaps you can rename her Miss Kitty Absentio?
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Jul 13, 2003 6:40:44 GMT -5
We missed you Mary. Let's see...Faith has visited a couple or 3 times...we started a round-robin fic thing (Spring, me, Rob, and Rae), we've had several really funny and prolific posting parties, Vlad's vacation is almost over and he's running out of food....several new Master S'cubies....anya's going home, and we've decided that politics isn't nearly as important as Spike. Yep, that summarizes it purty good.
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Jul 13, 2003 6:42:25 GMT -5
Last night I posted that the order form on the Amber Beson site for ordering 'Chance' didn't seem to be working. Today I received the 'advertised' email confirmation and a link in it to Paypal, where I was able to send my payment and complete my order, so I wanted to clear this up for any who read my post. The order form does work, it just takes time. So eventually, I will get to see James Marsters and Andy Hallett in Chance. Oh, and Amber Benson, too. If you want to have a viewing party when it arrives, PM me and we'll set up a time.
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Jul 13, 2003 6:47:05 GMT -5
I'm dropping in to say hi. I've read only this section of posts and am thinking I had better log off before I get the silly inclination to go back and wade through the next to last Part. I've spent most of the day working on my thesis and getting nowhere fast. Sure, sure, there was that little incident where I needed to look something up in my lab book and couldn't find it. Sure it required looking through every single not-yet-unpacked box in the apartment, and sure it must have taken me an hour to find the blasted thing in the absolute LAST place I looked. And no, the last place I looked wasn't only the LAST place I looked because at that point I had found the stupid thing and therefore no more searching was required. I had literally already looked in every other box in the house, including the ones I had put in the storage room and there it was, in the mostly unpacked bag hiding behind the ironning board. GRRRR ARRGH Well at least I've found it now =) Ooooo, Trading Spaces is on.... Must dash. Micha Poor Little WaterScubie. I am a veteran of the moving wars and fully sympathize. Lost a needed item once and had to go through 36 boxes to find it. Part of it stems from being married to the pack rat from hell. Ian has every school report card he ever got. He has the design drawings from college, every award from his years in industry and when last we moved, 44 boxes worth of books! How wonderful to find another Trading Spaces watcher. Do you also like What Not to Wear?
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Post by S'ewing S'cubie on Jul 13, 2003 6:57:27 GMT -5
I've read and enjoyed the article in Christianity Today. I don't have any objection to the Parents Television Council, or other Christian-focussed parents' groups, not advertising their Christian focus/attitude, UNLESS they are formerly affiliated with any religious institution. I'm not a member of any such group and don't plan on becoming one, but I don't know of any laws requiring such groups to identify their tendancies in their titles. I also believe that pushing, or not pushing Christian agendas via TV shows i.e. Touched By An Angel, is a matter for the TV networks and TV audiences to decide. Frankly, I'd rather watch a TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL marathon than one episode of "THE BACHELOR" or "BACHELORETTE" or the ghastly "FEAR FACTOR". I don't think the popularity of TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL is a danger to wicca groups or non-Christian religions, either. As for various pro-Christian fundamentalist groups pushing "TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL" while bashing BUFFY, well, it's a free country. I think it says something for the diverse tastes of the American public that BUFFY managed to last 7 seasons and AtvS is going into its? 5th. Gail Well said, Dave & Raksha. I find programs like Bachelor and Bachelorette and their ilk aim at one of our ugliest characteritics, greed. Meanwhile, Survivor and Fear Factor appeal only to lowest instincts in human psychology. What next? Full contact gladiator games? Do we get interactive buttons to push thumbs up or down? Even the ads make me ill. How can this be accepted by our self-proclaimed, self-appointed moral advocates while Buffy is reviled?
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Post by Alice on Jul 13, 2003 8:13:38 GMT -5
While Christianity (including those people who sorta kinda believe there is a God but don't really worship) might be the dominant faith group in this country, we're still not a Christian nation and have never adopted a national religion on purpose; we need to always remember that when we start pushing our views and morals on other people, we become no better than those people who drove the Pilgrims, Puritans, etc. out of Europe because they had a viewpoint different than the majority there. Thus endeth the rant. I know, I know -- preaching to the choir. I so agree with you on this last bit Dave. This is definately one of my hot buttons. It really bothers me that our country which was founded, in part, on the principal of freedom to worship seems everyday to be tying Christianity with patriotism. I get so many e-mails that talk about God, Jesus and our great country and then say "forward this to 10 people you love and the one who sent it to you" - which I never do - that I'm starting to feel like the States are becoming one big Christian club that I'm not going to be a part of when I move home. (Not because of my religious beliefs, but because I hate being made to feel that I have to do or act a certain way in order to be accepted by the mainstream.) There endeth my rant, except to say that I've been lurking for a long time and it's only because I know you guys are such an open, intelligent and tolerant group that I have the nerve to say this.
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Post by Alice on Jul 13, 2003 8:31:10 GMT -5
Ok, after the last rant-away post, here’s something fun…
Alyson Hannigan was on the cover of the Sunday Times Culture section today (English paper) and she is looking really gorgeous. Wish I had a scanner so I could post to you all. It’s a close up of her face and her hair is short again… just touching the base of her neck.
Of course the interview is a promo for "American Wedding", but there’s a little Buffy stuff: “I used to pester the show’s creator, Joss Whedon, to tell me all the future stories. Then, a couple of years ago, he told me all his plans – and most of them did not happen. So, after that, I told him: ‘I don’t wan to know a thing. I will take the twists as they com.’” Don’t you just wish she’d said what he told her that didn’t happen?
I also liked this part:
‘With a name like Hannigan you would suspect an Irish background. She certainly has the looks and she says her father told her of deep roots in the Cork area. On a trip to London recently she took a few days off from a round of television interviews and went to Ireland to search out the Hannigan family history. “I drove a car down the M4, into Wales, took a ferry over and ended up in Cork. It was beautiful,” she says, seemingly unaware that most travelling American actresses need hand-holding to get to the film-company limo to take them 500yd to Gucci.’ One of the ferry ports from Wales is just 10 minutes walk from my house!
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