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Post by Betsy on Oct 30, 2003 15:15:44 GMT -5
Betsy, would you also be sure to post this on the pictures link. It'll get lost here. When I get home tonite, I'm actually going to upload the pics to my server and put them on the pictures thread for all to view. I just can't do that here from work as I want to optimize the photos to compress the size.
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Post by Sue on Oct 30, 2003 15:19:49 GMT -5
Did anybody mention:
Lorne says he has to go back out and take care of the party..."ice buckets need filling..."
Spike raises his hand and says, "Me! Me! I'm the people person!"
What childish glee.
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Post by Sue on Oct 30, 2003 15:23:31 GMT -5
I always did think he was a good actor, but musing on Wes' change in personalities make me appreciate AD even more. You have Buffy Wes, 1st Season Wes, 4th Season Dark Wes, and to now play Wes regressed--lots of subtley there.
Am also coming to appreciate DB much more.
JM always shines, but Spike is so melodramatic that you get to see all of the moods and personality changes. (Not that he doesn't also play him in a 100 little subtle ways.)
But acting stoic and still being able to convey some range is very difficult. I think DB may be a better actor than I have given him credit for.
Can't wait to see my next season two ep later today, but gotta go again for now.
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Post by DaveCrenshaw on Oct 30, 2003 15:25:01 GMT -5
Did anybody mention: Lorne says he has to go back out and take care of the party..."ice buckets need filling..." Spike raises his hand and says, "Me! Me! I'm the people person!" What childish glee. My question with that one was, what does filling the ice buckets have to do with people persons? Maybe Lorne should have asked Gunn to fill the buckets. Lord knows Gunn was trying his best to fill everything else, including Welsey's shoes and Angel's chair.
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Post by Betsy on Oct 30, 2003 15:26:41 GMT -5
Tru Calling - Articles For The Premiere2003 - 10 - 30 For those that don't want to be spoiled, I read through each article and deleted anything that referred to tonite's premiere episode or future episodes. I'm mainly posting a critique of ED and her new series. From Usatoday.com
'Tru' : Death becomes her Wouldn't life be simpler if the dead were more direct ?
Eliza Dushku's Tru Davies takes the Six Feet Under of talking to the dead one step futher : she does their bidding. By Anthony Mandler, Fox
Granted, none of us really knows how much energy the dead must expend crossing the mortal plane. Still, if they're going to go to all that trouble to contact us, they might as well go that extra mile and make the contact intelligible.
But no : It's all rattling chains and low moans and chills in the air. Or worse, it's the dead waking up just long enough to mutter "help me" to some poor schnook like Tru Davies, the put-upon heroine of Fox's Tru Calling. (Related item : See a clip from Tru Calling)
Having dumped their problems on Tru (nicely played by Buffy's Eliza Dushku), the dead then miraculously send her back in time, one day only, for reasons that are not explained. She must right whatever went wrong for the dearly departed, which is her reward for wishing she could have somehow prevented her mother's murder when she was a little girl.
Actually, while she's wishing, Tru should also put in a request for a car, a bike or a bus pass. Then she wouldn't be spending half of tonight's episode dashing from place to place, an apparent attempt to remind TV viewers of a movie most of them haven't seen, Run Lola Run.
Yes, Tru was a track star. We hear that twice. And yes, Dushku looks cute on the run. But it doesn't take long for the device to become unintentionally comic.
To be fair, Tru's pace slows in a future episode. The show's basic problem, however, remains. You have a heroine with no official contacts playing Junior G-Man every week, hunting down clues and making intuitive leaps that would make Sherlock Holmes blanch. One glimpse of a blanket and the crime falls into place.
** Spoiler Removed **
Tru may be a bit odd and dreary for mass consumption, but for fantasy fans searching for an alternative to Friends and Survivor, it does have its virtues. Dushku gives an appealing performance in a role that allows her to be more vulnerable and less aggressive than Buffy's far tougher Faith. The show doesn't overreach : Tru can't solve everyone's problems every time. And the plots, if not always involving, are at least complicated.
Unduly complicated, but that's not Tru's fault. Blame the dead. *********************** From Courier-journal.com
New 'Tru' features chats with the dead By TOM DORSEY tdorsey@courier-journal.com The Courier-Journal
The hereafter is calling again.
"Tru Calling," which has its debut on Fox at 8 tonight, stars a young woman who chats with corpses.
The idea of crossing over has largely been confined to syndicated series, such as the one John Edward does, until this year.
Showtime kicked off the trend with "Dead Like Me" about a teenage girl who gets hit by a meteorite and finds herself part of a dearly departed squad. Then CBS launched "Joan of Arcadia" about another teenager who has everyday conversations with God.
Now Fox joins the group with "Tru Calling" starring Eliza Dushku as Tru Davies. She needs a job, so she takes one on the graveyard shift at the city morgue. It all fits into her plans to attend medical school.
The first thing you know, the dead speak up and sometimes ask for help. That freaks her out, but she sticks with it, maybe because her mother lay in her coffin a decade before she whispered to Tru that she was all right.
That's not all. It's not even the main part of the plot. The real story line pops up the next morning when she awakes from dreams to begin reliving the day before. It's kind of like Bill Murray's character in "Groundhog Day." What happens next will remind you of the old CBS series "Early Edition," in which the guy got tomorrow's newspaper today and dashed out to save people he knows will otherwise die or be in some sort of hot water.
Tru's job is to save someone from a fate worse than death before tomorrow arrives. She's got to beat the clock and sometimes must solve a crime before it happens.
Sounds like an intriguing idea. Who hasn't wished they could live yesterday over and correct blunders before they happen ? The trouble is Dushku sleep-walks through the role. She's not driven enough to make the character riveting. **********************
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Post by DaveCrenshaw on Oct 30, 2003 15:28:12 GMT -5
I always did think he was a good actor, but musing on Wes' change in personalities make me appreciate AD even more. You have Buffy Wes, 1st Season Wes, 4th Season Dark Wes, and to now play Wes regressed--lots of subtley there. Am also coming to appreciate DB much more. JM always shines, but Spike is so melodramatic that you get to see all of the moods and personality changes. (Not that he doesn't also play him in a 100 little subtle ways.) But acting stoic and still being able to convey some range is very difficult. I think DB may be a better actor than I have given him credit for. Can't wait to see my next season two ep later today, but gotta go again for now. Talking about the many faces of Wesley, the episode that to me showed Alexis Denisof's worthiness of the Emmy was Billy. He completely creeped me out when he went chasing Fred through the halls of the Hyperion, but then at the end when his heart broke because of what he had done. That experience is still having it's toll. Wesley was about to tell Fred what he thought of her just in time for Billy to come screw it all up. If Wesley hadn't been infected by the blood, he and Fred might have ended up together. As it is, Wesley has never been able to voice his feelings, and Fred is still completely oblivious to them.
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Post by DaveCrenshaw on Oct 30, 2003 15:29:35 GMT -5
Tru Calling - Articles For The Premiere2003 - 10 - 30 For those that don't want to be spoiled, I read through each article and deleted anything that referred to tonite's premiere episode or future episodes. I'm mainly posting a critique of ED and her new series. From Usatoday.com
'Tru' : Death becomes her Wouldn't life be simpler if the dead were more direct ?
Eliza Dushku's Tru Davies takes the Six Feet Under of talking to the dead one step futher : she does their bidding. By Anthony Mandler, Fox
Granted, none of us really knows how much energy the dead must expend crossing the mortal plane. Still, if they're going to go to all that trouble to contact us, they might as well go that extra mile and make the contact intelligible.
But no : It's all rattling chains and low moans and chills in the air. Or worse, it's the dead waking up just long enough to mutter "help me" to some poor schnook like Tru Davies, the put-upon heroine of Fox's Tru Calling. (Related item : See a clip from Tru Calling)
Having dumped their problems on Tru (nicely played by Buffy's Eliza Dushku), the dead then miraculously send her back in time, one day only, for reasons that are not explained. She must right whatever went wrong for the dearly departed, which is her reward for wishing she could have somehow prevented her mother's murder when she was a little girl.
Actually, while she's wishing, Tru should also put in a request for a car, a bike or a bus pass. Then she wouldn't be spending half of tonight's episode dashing from place to place, an apparent attempt to remind TV viewers of a movie most of them haven't seen, Run Lola Run.
Yes, Tru was a track star. We hear that twice. And yes, Dushku looks cute on the run. But it doesn't take long for the device to become unintentionally comic.
To be fair, Tru's pace slows in a future episode. The show's basic problem, however, remains. You have a heroine with no official contacts playing Junior G-Man every week, hunting down clues and making intuitive leaps that would make Sherlock Holmes blanch. One glimpse of a blanket and the crime falls into place.
** Spoiler Removed **
Tru may be a bit odd and dreary for mass consumption, but for fantasy fans searching for an alternative to Friends and Survivor, it does have its virtues. Dushku gives an appealing performance in a role that allows her to be more vulnerable and less aggressive than Buffy's far tougher Faith. The show doesn't overreach : Tru can't solve everyone's problems every time. And the plots, if not always involving, are at least complicated.
Unduly complicated, but that's not Tru's fault. Blame the dead. *********************** From Courier-journal.com
New 'Tru' features chats with the dead By TOM DORSEY tdorsey@courier-journal.com The Courier-Journal
The hereafter is calling again.
"Tru Calling," which has its debut on Fox at 8 tonight, stars a young woman who chats with corpses.
The idea of crossing over has largely been confined to syndicated series, such as the one John Edward does, until this year.
Showtime kicked off the trend with "Dead Like Me" about a teenage girl who gets hit by a meteorite and finds herself part of a dearly departed squad. Then CBS launched "Joan of Arcadia" about another teenager who has everyday conversations with God.
Now Fox joins the group with "Tru Calling" starring Eliza Dushku as Tru Davies. She needs a job, so she takes one on the graveyard shift at the city morgue. It all fits into her plans to attend medical school.
The first thing you know, the dead speak up and sometimes ask for help. That freaks her out, but she sticks with it, maybe because her mother lay in her coffin a decade before she whispered to Tru that she was all right.
That's not all. It's not even the main part of the plot. The real story line pops up the next morning when she awakes from dreams to begin reliving the day before. It's kind of like Bill Murray's character in "Groundhog Day." What happens next will remind you of the old CBS series "Early Edition," in which the guy got tomorrow's newspaper today and dashed out to save people he knows will otherwise die or be in some sort of hot water.
Tru's job is to save someone from a fate worse than death before tomorrow arrives. She's got to beat the clock and sometimes must solve a crime before it happens.
Sounds like an intriguing idea. Who hasn't wished they could live yesterday over and correct blunders before they happen ? The trouble is Dushku sleep-walks through the role. She's not driven enough to make the character riveting. ********************** The critics as a whole are not being kind to Tru Calling. We might just get our series about the Rogue Slayer sooner than later.
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Post by RaeBot on Oct 30, 2003 15:36:17 GMT -5
Ahh, the quote and reply buttons should be back now.
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Post by DaveCrenshaw on Oct 30, 2003 15:36:20 GMT -5
Moloch seems to be awake. I'll start a new section.
Sorry about the troubles, folks. We'll have things running again momentarily.
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Post by Betsy on Oct 30, 2003 15:37:57 GMT -5
I hope this isn't considered a spoiler, since she is already on the show . . . but does this mean we'll see more of her . . . . I hope not.
October 29, 2003
According to an interview on eonline!, Mercedes McNab will become a regular on Angel sometime after the first of the year.
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Post by John G on Oct 30, 2003 15:39:22 GMT -5
I hope this isn't considered a spoiler, since she is already on the show . . . but does this mean we'll see more of her . . . . I hope not. October 29, 2003
According to an interview on eonline!, Mercedes McNab will become a regular on Angel sometime after the first of the year.Yes we will! Hooray! Don't know if this is a spoiler, but expect Harmony to be around in all but 6.
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Post by DaveCrenshaw on Oct 30, 2003 15:41:55 GMT -5
Thanks to activity from Moloch making it difficult for some of our posters to post, I'm shutting down this section. Section 62 is open and available for posting already. See you there.
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