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Post by Lola m on Sept 25, 2007 22:17:50 GMT -5
I loved it. I started watching around 11:15, very tired, thinking I might not be able to stay up and watch this and I was riveted. Though the opening with snorable Mo (sorry Lola, not a fan) was the weak link. Heee! You just have to tune him out and enjoy the pretty. He's one of those, "hush, don't speak" guys. ;D IntoThePast!Hiro is going to be so much fun! **snicker** OMG, that beard! It now rivals Lost!Jack's Beard of Doom. Hmmmm. I'm thinking the guy who went over the roof with Mr. N was someone totally else, maybe someone we've never seen before. But it being Peter would be very intriguing. 'Course, then we need a storyline that gets him from there to a box in Ireland. Or from Ireland to the roof . . . Or that there's a different timeline or something . ... All of which is certainly possible on this show. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Sept 25, 2007 22:18:42 GMT -5
HRG is a worker bee at a real paper company? I'd like to personally slap the arrogant little supervisor.
Clare's new friend is a young hottie.
I see that Nathan has kept the spine he grew.
Who's CreepyGuy trying to recruit Mo-Mo? Didn't I once see him playing a serial killer on Picket Fences....Mo-Mo is still delectable.
Where are Niki/Jessica and family?
Glad to see that Matt is a cop again; and is caring for Molly. But is Molly channeling Sylar?
GAIL
I recognized him as Ned Ryerson from "Groundhog Day." I checked his page at imdb, which does list a a guest shot on Picket Fences, but doesn't list the Heroes gig, so I dunno if it's the same guy or not. Yes! Ned Ryerson!!
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Post by Lola m on Sept 25, 2007 22:20:08 GMT -5
I loved it. I started watching around 11:15, very tired, thinking I might not be able to stay up and watch this and I was riveted. Though the opening with snorable Mo (sorry Lola, not a fan) was the weak link. I'm also not a fan of Nikki and Paola, 2.0 version. I thought the storyline dragged down when they were on screen. However - WHOO HOO - David Anders was awesome. AWESOME! I loved he and Hiro's interaction. And I think Raksha is absolutely correct. Hiro will indeed become his own hero. I like it. And I was dreading this SL, thinking it would be boring. Other things I loved: Drunk Nathan and his beard of doom. Claire and her now "Look I can fly" possible boyfriend Daddy taking down the paper manager. Hee, hee (reminded me a little of Arnold taking down the car salesman in True Lies) Scary new eyes/voice villain. Yikes! A friend of mine is speccing that it was Peter who killed Sulu. Since he lost his memory and was wearing the little evil doodad. The body silhouette looked right but why? And sniff. Sulu - no. (although it was kind of dumbass to hang around on a roof for Pete's sake after you get a death threat). Hmm. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's not Peter. Just my thought, but why spend so much time building up his character as empathetic and not wanting to do harm to the world and then have him as an amnesiac killer. My speculation is that it is one of the older generation heroes, one of the "nine" that Keito talked about. It was obviously someone Keito knew well, hence his: "I never thought it would be you." For a moment, I actually thought it was Claude, but far too short for Christopher Eccleston. Also, I'm not sure Claude counts as part of the older generation; he seems kind of "mid" generation. Oooh, yes, I like that! I had a thought that it could be Claude too, but then why not be invisible. But the idea that it is someone from the old line, as it were, would really fit. Also would explain why they all knew the signal meant they were going to be killed.
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Post by Lola m on Sept 25, 2007 22:24:33 GMT -5
I loved it and was disappointed at the same time. I need more answers - NOW - but that a personal problem on my part. There were soooooo many little things that had me going WTF? So, we need a list of all the questions the first episode brought up. Like - who's killing the elder heroes? What's up with Nathan and those scars? Is that not really Nathan? Why was Peter locked up in a box? Who cut his hair?What was this whole - 'we put your ability in a box.' Something like that. Reminded me of BSG and boxing the cylons. Who shoved Hiro's daddy off the roof? Are they both dead? What's up with Ando's hair?Who is this new flying boy? Where is Sylar? How did Mohinder and Matt end up rooming together? Why did Molly get so freaked out? Who did she keep seeing, and is she keeping his identity a secret to protect Matt or this unknown person? What's up with Mr. Muggles and mom? When will she crack? Where is the Haitian? Who are these new people?? How in the world are we going to be able to keep track of all of this stuff? Prioritizing your concerns and dealing with the most crucial first: it's obvious that Ando has acquired the power of stealing hair and Peter's hair has left him and been grafted on to Ando's. Also, possibly that Ando is a big fan of the vampire-who's-hair-stands-straight-up! ;D Well, I always suspected Cordy was right when she said it was all really about the hair . . .
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Post by Karen on Sept 25, 2007 22:46:50 GMT -5
I think he was hallucinating nuked Peter. Poor Nathan, drunk and guilt-tripping. Yup, I thought he saw Peter in the mirror, too. On the second watch, I'm pretty sure you both are right. It was Peter. He had the old Peter hair on. Which Nathan should've seen as being burned off, but maybe he just couldn't bring himself to hallucinate the actual Peter. So, that's why Peter's hair is short now. It's only got 4 months growth to it. Hopefully, we'll get the curly lock of hair back. Oh, maybe that's what's in the box.
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Post by Karen on Sept 25, 2007 22:48:20 GMT -5
I loved it and was disappointed at the same time. I need more answers - NOW - but that a personal problem on my part. There were soooooo many little things that had me going WTF? So, we need a list of all the questions the first episode brought up. Like - who's killing the elder heroes? What's up with Nathan and those scars? Is that not really Nathan? Why was Peter locked up in a box? Who cut his hair?What was this whole - 'we put your ability in a box.' Something like that. Reminded me of BSG and boxing the cylons. Who shoved Hiro's daddy off the roof? Are they both dead? What's up with Ando's hair?Who is this new flying boy? Where is Sylar? How did Mohinder and Matt end up rooming together? Why did Molly get so freaked out? Who did she keep seeing, and is she keeping his identity a secret to protect Matt or this unknown person? What's up with Mr. Muggles and mom? When will she crack? Where is the Haitian? Who are these new people?? How in the world are we going to be able to keep track of all of this stuff? Prioritizing your concerns and dealing with the most crucial first: it's obvious that Ando has acquired the power of stealing hair and Peter's hair has left him and been grafted on to Ando's. Also, possibly that Ando is a big fan of the vampire-who's-hair-stands-straight-up! ;D Hee! And who could blame him?
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Post by Pixi on Sept 26, 2007 8:13:49 GMT -5
I loved it. I started watching around 11:15, very tired, thinking I might not be able to stay up and watch this and I was riveted. Though the opening with snorable Mo (sorry Lola, not a fan) was the weak link. I'm also not a fan of Nikki and Paola, 2.0 version. I thought the storyline dragged down when they were on screen. However - WHOO HOO - David Anders was awesome. AWESOME! I loved he and Hiro's interaction. And I think Raksha is absolutely correct. Hiro will indeed become his own hero. I like it. And I was dreading this SL, thinking it would be boring. Other things I loved: Drunk Nathan and his beard of doom. Claire and her now "Look I can fly" possible boyfriend Daddy taking down the paper manager. Hee, hee (reminded me a little of Arnold taking down the car salesman in True Lies) Scary new eyes/voice villain. Yikes! A friend of mine is speccing that it was Peter who killed Sulu. Since he lost his memory and was wearing the little evil doodad. The body silhouette looked right but why? And sniff. Sulu - no. (although it was kind of dumbass to hang around on a roof for Pete's sake after you get a death threat). Hmm. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's not Peter. Just my thought, but why spend so much time building up his character as empathetic and not wanting to do harm to the world and then have him as an amnesiac killer. My speculation is that it is one of the older generation heroes, one of the "nine" that Keito talked about. It was obviously someone Keito knew well, hence his: "I never thought it would be you." For a moment, I actually thought it was Claude, but far too short for Christopher Eccleston. Also, I'm not sure Claude counts as part of the older generation; he seems kind of "mid" generation. I don't think it's Peter either but I thought it was an interesting spec. Maybe it's Kristin Bell's character. Hee!
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Post by Sara on Sept 26, 2007 11:37:06 GMT -5
Yup, I thought he saw Peter in the mirror, too. On the second watch, I'm pretty sure you both are right. It was Peter. He had the old Peter hair on. Which Nathan should've seen as being burned off, but maybe he just couldn't bring himself to hallucinate the actual Peter. So, that's why Peter's hair is short now. It's only got 4 months growth to it. Hopefully, we'll get the curly lock of hair back. Oh, maybe that's what's in the box. Actually, according to the episode director Greg Beeman, said in his blog (per Tim Kring): There’s almost no explanation for what happened in the intervening time. And, as Tim points out, almost all of the characters are flipped in intention and situation from where we first met them last year.
Nathan, who was so in control and determined as a political candidate last year, has seemingly lost it all and has no goals. He drinks alone in a bar and is haunted by a disfigured version of himself. Who is this vision and what is the symbolism behind his horrible disfigurement?I think if you take a look at the image, putting something over the disfigured part of the face, it becomes clear it is indeed Nathan:
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Post by Queen E on Sept 26, 2007 12:00:23 GMT -5
On the second watch, I'm pretty sure you both are right. It was Peter. He had the old Peter hair on. Which Nathan should've seen as being burned off, but maybe he just couldn't bring himself to hallucinate the actual Peter. So, that's why Peter's hair is short now. It's only got 4 months growth to it. Hopefully, we'll get the curly lock of hair back. Oh, maybe that's what's in the box. Actually, according to the episode director Greg Beeman, said in his blog (per Tim Kring): There’s almost no explanation for what happened in the intervening time. And, as Tim points out, almost all of the characters are flipped in intention and situation from where we first met them last year.
Nathan, who was so in control and determined as a political candidate last year, has seemingly lost it all and has no goals. He drinks alone in a bar and is haunted by a disfigured version of himself. Who is this vision and what is the symbolism behind his horrible disfigurement?I think if you take a look at the image, putting something over the disfigured part of the face, it becomes clear it is indeed Nathan: So, do you think he was actually disfigured, and then healed by someone else, or it is a metaphor for his tortured state of mind? And geez...could Beeman or Kring phrase it any more like an essay question? I feel like I need to write a paper or something.
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Post by Sara on Sept 26, 2007 12:14:31 GMT -5
So, do you think he was actually disfigured, and then healed by someone else, or it is a metaphor for his tortured state of mind? And geez...could Beeman or Kring phrase it any more like an essay question? I feel like I need to write a paper or something. Heh. The second paragraph was much the same: Matt Parkman, who last year futilely dreamed of being a detective, this year kicks ass as a cop, using his powers to ace his field test. He also is living in Suresh’s apartment and is caretaking Molly Walker the little girl he rescued from Sylar in episodes 2 and 3 of last year. How did they get into this situation and what happened to Matt’s pregnant wife?After that they became more like statements than questions.
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Post by Karen on Sept 26, 2007 16:21:28 GMT -5
On the second watch, I'm pretty sure you both are right. It was Peter. He had the old Peter hair on. Which Nathan should've seen as being burned off, but maybe he just couldn't bring himself to hallucinate the actual Peter. So, that's why Peter's hair is short now. It's only got 4 months growth to it. Hopefully, we'll get the curly lock of hair back. Oh, maybe that's what's in the box. Actually, according to the episode director Greg Beeman, said in his blog (per Tim Kring): There’s almost no explanation for what happened in the intervening time. And, as Tim points out, almost all of the characters are flipped in intention and situation from where we first met them last year.
Nathan, who was so in control and determined as a political candidate last year, has seemingly lost it all and has no goals. He drinks alone in a bar and is haunted by a disfigured version of himself. Who is this vision and what is the symbolism behind his horrible disfigurement?I think if you take a look at the image, putting something over the disfigured part of the face, it becomes clear it is indeed Nathan: My first thought was that it was himself that Nathan was seeing. But a disfigured Peter made more sense, since he was the one who exploded. In the future that didn't happen, it was Sylar who took on Nathan's identity. It's a puzzlement, it is. Oh, and on the rewatch, Nathan bumped into Ando on the street in the first scene, but Ando didn't recognize him in his Dr. Shepherd Beard of Doom.
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Post by Lola m on Sept 27, 2007 20:15:00 GMT -5
Yup, I thought he saw Peter in the mirror, too. On the second watch, I'm pretty sure you both are right. It was Peter. He had the old Peter hair on. Which Nathan should've seen as being burned off, but maybe he just couldn't bring himself to hallucinate the actual Peter. So, that's why Peter's hair is short now. It's only got 4 months growth to it. Hopefully, we'll get the curly lock of hair back. Oh, maybe that's what's in the box. Excellent! And heeee! ;D
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Post by Lola m on Sept 27, 2007 20:16:24 GMT -5
Actually, according to the episode director Greg Beeman, said in his blog (per Tim Kring): There’s almost no explanation for what happened in the intervening time. And, as Tim points out, almost all of the characters are flipped in intention and situation from where we first met them last year.
Nathan, who was so in control and determined as a political candidate last year, has seemingly lost it all and has no goals. He drinks alone in a bar and is haunted by a disfigured version of himself. Who is this vision and what is the symbolism behind his horrible disfigurement?I think if you take a look at the image, putting something over the disfigured part of the face, it becomes clear it is indeed Nathan: So, do you think he was actually disfigured, and then healed by someone else, or it is a metaphor for his tortured state of mind? And geez...could Beeman or Kring phrase it any more like an essay question? I feel like I need to write a paper or something. **snerk**
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Post by Queen E on Oct 1, 2007 5:02:25 GMT -5
Sara!
Great work on the review! I thought it would be a hard episode to write about; there's a lot of questions, but answers seem to be very far away...and yet you managed to do a very cogent breakdown of where its at and what it might mean in the long run. I share your annoyance at the disappearance of certain characters; one reference to DL's fate was too much for the episode? Seriously? Also, great pick-up on noticing the theme of "family."
Loved the Pretty in Pink reference, and the comparison of Mr. Bennet's boss to the Mouth Breather and Dwight Shrute. Masterful.
Those are my initial thoughts on the review...and let me give you a big "You're Awesome!" for how quickly you turned it around!
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Post by Sara on Oct 1, 2007 8:37:57 GMT -5
Sara! Great work on the review! I thought it would be a hard episode to write about; there's a lot of questions, but answers seem to be very far away...and yet you managed to do a very cogent breakdown of where its at and what it might mean in the long run. I share your annoyance at the disappearance of certain characters; one reference to DL's fate was too much for the episode? Seriously? Also, great pick-up on noticing the theme of "family." Loved the Pretty in Pink reference, and the comparison of Mr. Bennet's boss to the Mouth Breather and Dwight Shrute. Masterful. Those are my initial thoughts on the review...and let me give you a big "You're Awesome!" for how quickly you turned it around!Well, I suspect at this point I've set the bar so low that getting it done within a month would have been a nice change of pace, let alone a week. Thanks for the kind words.
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