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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 13:49:37 GMT -5
You're quite a guy, Robert. A Xander lives among us and you're right, we didn't even notice. Maybe that's the curse of being a Xander, that you do so much but it doesn't seem to be noticed. I got news for you, kid. It IS noticed and greatly appreciated. I suspect your family notices too, but lacks the words to voice their appreciation. You say how proud you are of your younger sister. Did it ever occur to you that she knows that she'd never have achieved so much without an older brother who was there for her? Your post touched me deeply. I have never met you, and most likely never will. But I consider myself priveleged to get to know you. I'm priveleged to know all my cyber Buffy friends. You're all so special to me. I've been reading everyone's posting and some of us are going through some very difficult times right now. We are now also mourning something that was special. I doubt that our immediate friends and family would understand how you can grieve for a television show. But I've been through it a few times before. I've grieved the deaths of characters almost as much as if they had been living people. At the time I didn't have the support we have now and had to go through it alone. In that, I consider myself lucky. Please consider this a virtual hug to all of you.. Diane
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 13:50:27 GMT -5
Alexandra, I've been all over the site and can't remember where the Scubie address page is. I've been trying to remember, but am seriously brain-dead. Vlad, help! Diane
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 13:51:10 GMT -5
What time zone is that?
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 13:52:19 GMT -5
Go to www.slayage.com. They have a scan of SMG's exclusive interview for EW! Robert, you in particular will love it. She mentions toward the end that the original plan was for Buffy to be with Xander!!!!! Diane U
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 13:53:59 GMT -5
Yesterday was a day... I had a hissy fit that another co-worker was kind enough to endure. I've been on a tirade to get other staff members off 8 square feet of my table in my classroom. When I was finished all he did was ask old I was. He was trying to plan on how much longer he had until his wife reached the stage of emotional turmoil I have been exhibiting lately. That particular problem was remedied 12 years ago. Now the doctors have been playing with my estrogen prescription... because of the cancer scare and all...and I've been on this emotional roller coaster for the last few months. I truly hate it...it seems so silly when I look back...yet know I'll get upset again over something really stupid and not be able to stop myself. Sheesh, just shoot me. I see Buffy and I want to cry. I read this board and I want to cry. If I had time to sit down and have a good cry, I would, but as it is...I still have an audience when I go to the bathroom. Like Nan says, I do have a life, I'm just not real crazy about it right now. Buffy is the only show I make the time to watch, my one true escape. I see her haranguing the troops and know right where she's coming from. When I grow up I want to be just like her. Thanks guys for letting some of your stuff hang out.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 13:54:51 GMT -5
If you go to slayage.com, you'll find a link to a scan of the EW article interviewing SMG about her decision to leave BTVS. Clicking on the thumbnails brings up the successive pages of the article in readable form. Warning--The site insists on placing a cookie. If you refuse it, as I did, it won't let you continue or go back. So I read only the first page of the article, but it had some strong implications on SMG's involvement--or lack thereof--on the still amorphous planned successor series to Buffy. I will leave the matter there for the curious/interested to investigate further if they wish. Nan
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 13:57:28 GMT -5
I finally did trick the un-cookied page to let me back in and read the rest of the EW interview with SMG. One thing that interested me was the graph at the end of the article. Fifth season (the Glory arc) had 4.4 million viewers, average. The much reviled season 6 (which I personally liked a LOT) had 4.5 million viewers. So the viewership went up for sixth season, despite the move to UPN, which has a much lower total viewership than does the WB (according to things I've read). Nan
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 13:58:30 GMT -5
I read the article and Joss said the same things posters here said about the darkness of season 6. SMG hadn't lived through the emotions portrayed. I liked season 6. The Doublemeat Palace episodes, I identified with; having to work the crap job you didn't like but had to get through it to get to something else. I totally felt the actions of Buffy were in line with her character. I wonder why she had the objections, maybe not downright objections but perhaps reservations, to the sex scenes. If a survey could be done, I wonder when the older group of viewers began to get interested. I don't remember exactly, it kind of grew on me.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 13:59:03 GMT -5
Season Six was also when FX started showing reruns of Seasons 1-5. I think that alone did a lot for the popularity of the series. I know that before that, I was a mere loyal once a week viewer. Suddenly I because an 11x a week viewer for a few months. If the FX reruns created one hyper-obsessive fan (me), how many more were spawned?
Athene V
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 14:00:41 GMT -5
I'm not entirely surprised by this. If I had one question for Joss it would be what changed his mind. It's nice that Sarah mentioned it at least. It's the first time I've actually heard it acknowledged that it was a legitimate possibility.
Rob Sorenson
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 14:02:06 GMT -5
Diane, when I wrote the "announcement" of finding the EW interview with SMG, I didn't realize that was what you were referencing in your prior post. You therefore were the first on this board to discover it, not I. Great minds obviously surf alike, and Slayage.com is an excellent source of links, updated almost minute-by-minute. Obviously nobody THERE has a life! I pass along to them immediately word of any articles or reviews I find elsewhere if they're not already listed. Nan
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 14:02:34 GMT -5
A couple of people mentioned that they were reading some S/B fan fiction, a few Parts back. All I remember(?) is that it had "dancing" in the title, and they commented that they were enjoying it. My impression that it was long--more than short-story length. Can anybody now identify it for me and tell me the URL to find it? Nan
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 14:03:23 GMT -5
"Dancing In the Dark" by various authors is what I referred to in the post you were recalling. It is here: randomthought.addr.com/redemptionista/I've can recommend more too. If you're intrested just Email me. deborah
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 14:04:39 GMT -5
Deborah's got the right URL. I haven't had time to read it all the way through (it's an epic), but I have skimmed and it's one of the better ones out there.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 7, 2003 14:05:36 GMT -5
Robert, Your post made me cry. Not a bad thing. I'm an emotional person with a tough outer persona, and it's sometimes embarassing what sets me off. I'm not embarassed you made me weep. It's also the whole thing that's pulling me down. The coming war, the pending loss of BTVS, the loss of you guys here at the S'cubie board, the hard times we're all experiencing (my husband may lose his job - I have to find $1mil somewhere, or I have to start laying people off). If I had had Buffy when I was in high school I would have had a major role model to validate the strangeness that was me. Even at my age, and with all Buffy's faults, she (and ME) have changed my life. I could articulate how, and not even really touch the inexplicable truth. Because mostly it's a feeling, not a fact. Maybe that's why 'middle-aged women' (you know, those of us who are JM's actual age, or older)like the program so much. It was pretty hard going for those of us who didn't want to meet society's expectations, or the feminist's expectations, or their male partner's expectations, or the lesbian's expectations for what we should be. To want to be so much more, but have no map to take us there.Buffy has been an amazing gift. Anyway, Boo-soddin'-hoo. I'm sending Vlad my latest chapter. I hope it will make you laugh. Thanks for being one of my three devoted fans.You keep me going.
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