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Post by Matthew on Feb 17, 2005 0:43:35 GMT -5
But then...don't you just hire some muscle to do your killing for you? Why sucker some poor schmuck who already has a world of problems into doing it? Too convoluted for my tastes. *Contemplates this statement with regard to the Evil Baby, the Polar Bears, the Giant Roaring Thing, Locke Walking, Michael and his twilight zone powers, Charlie, CFL, and so forth...* Huh. Too convoluted. Okay! ;D  Teasing, of course: some of those things are a bit much at times for me, too. But here's a couple of good reasons.... 1. Cheap. Sawyer would do THAT guy for free. 2. Won't be buy-offable, if he things the guy is the one who ruined his life. 3. Hibbs and Sawyer had problems already, as shown by Sawyer's greeting of him: maybe it was to get him out of the country, too. 4. Not likely to turn on Hibbs if he thinks that Hibbs has done him a solid in finding the guy out for him, if Sawyer's captured by the cops, unlike a hired muscleman. Works for me about as well as a lot of other things, and better than some of the gadgets in Alias, is all. Or, as I said to my friend Dan, after we watched Batman Returns together, and he was stating that Selena Kyle could not have made her catsuit out of that single coat: "Dan, you accepted, without a quibble, intercontinental balistic missile penguins. Your suspension of disbelief is gonna balk at a couple of square feet of vinyl? " But then, I am Past Master of Fanwankery...   |
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Post by Rob on Feb 17, 2005 0:49:25 GMT -5
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that this is a decent/good episode. As much as I like Charlie, I don;t enjoy the Charlie-centric eps as much. Sawyer-centric...Kate centric..Locke-centric.. all good. Vlad The episode itself was above-average. On the other hand, the individual scenes between Sawyer and Kate in front of the campfire and Sawyer and Jack's father in the bar might rank as the best-written pieces the show has produced thus far. Considering Goddard wrote it, that should come as no surprise to anyone here. |
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Post by Rob on Feb 17, 2005 0:52:53 GMT -5
What if he's Xander? Ordinary, nice guy, the guy you can pretty much always count on? Jesus, let's hope not. TV writers seem to run out of decent storylines for guys like that after three seasons or so. |
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Post by Linda on Feb 17, 2005 4:58:37 GMT -5
Dammit Sawyer... you had the chance to do the right thing, and you ignored it. Eetah! |
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Post by Linda on Feb 17, 2005 4:59:28 GMT -5
If I were an obsessive sort of person, I'd make a chart with everything we've learned about these characters...but I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. Considering I made a "Killer" list back in last week's episode …was that a hint? Linda, obsessive? Moi? |
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Post by Linda on Feb 17, 2005 5:00:48 GMT -5
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Post by Linda on Feb 17, 2005 5:01:28 GMT -5
when Duckett asked for (our) Sawyer's name, I think he said 'James'. Which tickled me.Drew is a funny guy...since Sawyer is definitely the Spike of this show. Oooh! I *like* this! |
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Post by Linda on Feb 17, 2005 5:02:22 GMT -5
It would, but that was in SuperStar, by Rebecca Kirshner I think...? Or that other woman writer who isn't Marti.... Jane Espenson wrote Superstar & coined the "World Without Shrimp" thingie. And the Land of Perpetual Wednesday, too, I think. |
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Post by Linda on Feb 17, 2005 5:03:14 GMT -5
See - I think we're going to find out he's the only truly "regular guy" on the island. He's in Australia for some totally innocent, every day kind of reason. Maybe won a contest and got to go or something, and he gets mixed up with this group of screwballs.Ummm…I vote "No!" on the bolded bit, 'cause lookit what happened to Steve Scott last week. Wasn't he a contest winner, too? I much prefer Lola's Puppetmaster theory over that… |
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Post by Linda on Feb 17, 2005 5:04:02 GMT -5
The episode itself was above-average. On the other hand, the individual scenes between Sawyer and Kate in front of the campfire and Sawyer and Jack's father in the bar might rank as the best-written pieces the show has produced thus far. Considering Goddard wrote it, that should come as no surprise to anyone here. Eetah! |
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Post by Linda on Feb 17, 2005 5:07:03 GMT -5
Hi all! First of all: AAACK!!! You guys got awfully chum-y last night. *raises hand* May I please hurl onto Patti's shoes too? ;D Also: Mmmm…running Sawyer. He runs even faster than the (as Matthew said) 114-months pregnant woman. Smallish complaint: he sleeps wearing a belt. He shouldn't, 'cause when he runs, his pants would be more likely to fall if he's beltless I'm sure the other castaways need stuff like belts for other things. (Hey! Minds out of the gutter please … oh, wait... never mind…carry on. ) Sawyer strikes me as someone who doesn't share very easily. So I thought the Sawyid moment (thanks Matthew) was hopeful, as was the "I Never" game with Kate. Under what circumstances would Sawyer share his past with Hibbs? Or did Hibbs do his own research in his convoluted plan to play him? So: who has more of a Father issue: Joss? or JJ Abrams? Sawyer's dad was pretty monstrous, and Jack's dad refused to make peace with Jack as well as inadvertently sending Sawyer back to kill. By making it seem like weakness not to. And "To Sawyer. May he find whatever he's looking for at the bottom of a glass" sounds more like a curse than a toast. All that talk of Hell didn't bode well, either. This episode struck me as very Joss-y. The main Lost/Angelverse connection that I saw was the child!Sawyer & Dana the damaged Slayer parallel. (The hiding under the bed felt like déjà vu.) Like Dana, the horrible experience of his childhood damaged Sawyer and eventually led him to murder. (A Drew co-written ep., BTW.) But the Jossiest touch, IMO, was that it was all about choice. Sawyer made a lot of bad choices. And a few good ones. In the end, when faced with the boar that wrecked his shelter & ate his food & peed on his shirt, he realized that a boar was just a boar. Yep, people and circumstances can grievously harm you. But what you do with your life is still your choice. And I think his giving up the gun was a sign that he had let go of his need for revenge. Sadly, his withholding the information that would mean so much to Jack, and the fact that he has not yet paid for the murder tells me that he still has a ways to go. But then, Sara's Red Sox won the World Series, so I have high hopes for his redemption. Linda, and Hawaii still pretty. |
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Post by Nickim on Feb 17, 2005 7:03:15 GMT -5
Sawyer definitely killed the wrong guy. Don't forget Jin...all that blood - he may be in the killer's club too. WHERE and why did Kate become the great white hunter? How in the world did she learn about boar behavior? I think she said her dad taught her to track and hunt. |
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Post by Nickim on Feb 17, 2005 7:03:50 GMT -5
If I were an obsessive sort of person, I'd make a chart with everything we've learned about these characters...but I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. Can wait to see that chart. |
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Post by Nickim on Feb 17, 2005 7:16:36 GMT -5
I'm wondering if he'll come back to the idea later. He may be saving it up to see what it'll get him. Or because he just didn't think the timing was right. Or, maybe he's just not sure the guy was Jack's dad since Jack said his dad was dead. He might think it was just a coincidence or just another message from the island. I'd say OurSawyer knows that was Jack's dad, but he's not about to just give that info away. This episode certainly proves you can't tell much from the previews. |
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Post by Nickim on Feb 17, 2005 7:17:34 GMT -5
I am getting very suspicious about the long delay in Hurley story. They're hiding it from us for a reason. Big season-ending cliffhanger? |
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