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Post by Sara on Sept 29, 2005 9:50:29 GMT -5
Awwwww. So Michael gave Walt his first polar bear . . . setting the stage for all those years later when they'd be trapped in the bamboo about to be eaten. Awwww. Actually, that is pretty cool. It means that Walt did remember and care about his dad in some way if he held on to his interest in them because he got a toy from his dad all those years ago. (Pause for a big awwwww for widdle Walt in his short pants. ) And then Michael on the raft - "Gonna get him back" - and thus they land on the island. The side where the Others are. So he can go get Walt. Island keeps giving folks what they want, eh? Very nice bit with Jin. Suddenly running out of the jungle - he must have escaped - and then the words "the Others" and the look over their shoulders! The Others look like torch and club bearing angry villagers to me. So, did they get "sick" and go nutty? Is Desmond hiding from them? So, on the Jin front: do we put down Michael and Sawyer not noticing that things with Jin were seriously amiss to stress? 'Cause the first thing I thought was, "How'd his hands get tied...oh dear." I didn't NEED to speak Korean to know that someone was chasing him. If someone wasn't chasing him...he wouldn't be running. Tied up. Yeah, I'm going with extreme stress myself--Sawyer's in a truckload of pain, and I doubt Michael slept at all during the night. But I do have to admit that while it was obvious Jin had escaped from something, I didn't immediately figure someone was right behind him. In fact, I was hoping they were someone back in the jungle and that our three boys would have time to go hide out somewhere. And, to touch on one of Sue's comments, I do think they were the Others--mostly because in the preview for next week Ana-Lucia was already in the pit the guys get thrown into. Since she's obviously been imprisoned by these folk, my instinct was that this group of people see her as an outsider. And as she identifies herself as a survivor of the flight 815 crash, then to me that means her jailers don't consider themselves as such. If that makes any sense at all.
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Post by Anne, Old S'cubie Cat on Sept 29, 2005 10:03:06 GMT -5
I think the thrall has gone out of our relationship. There was also the whole confusion of switching from PBS to ABC five minutes early - I didn't know they were repeating last week's episode (which is clever). So, we got to see Locke get the go down the shaft this time. Meanwhile, back at the raft... Michael and Sawyer do their best Laurel and Hardy impression. "What are you gonna do, splash me?" Not to mention that every time someone gets angry, the ID monster shows up. It's pretty predictable. Kate finds candy bars. They must be pretty stale. Locke, don't type those numbers! The numbers are bad! Too much underwater photography. Too much Jaws. And, as Paul said, "So, the second episode of the second season, they jumped the shark". And, zombies. It wanted only zombies. There were a couple of things I liked: The look on Kate's face when that music started up - that was the best WTF face (thank you, Wisteria) I've ever seen. Also, Michael gave Walt a polar bear! Walt has polar bears on the brain.
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Post by feisch on Sept 29, 2005 10:20:35 GMT -5
dose anyone have pics of the Spanish comic that Walt is reading in "lost"... I think it could help unravel the mystery.
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Post by feisch on Sept 29, 2005 10:22:53 GMT -5
I'm looking for pics of the spanish comic that walt is reading...I think it could help unravel the mystery. please help.
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Post by Sharky on Sept 29, 2005 10:24:03 GMT -5
The look on Kate's face when that music started up - that was the best WTF face (thank you, Wisteria) I've ever seen. A good moment, but my favorite with Kate was when she found the chocolate.
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Post by Sara on Sept 29, 2005 10:28:46 GMT -5
The look on Kate's face when that music started up - that was the best WTF face (thank you, Wisteria) I've ever seen. A good moment, but my favorite with Kate was when she found the chocolate. Yeah, I really liked that moment too. Stale or not, that first taste of chocolate and refined sugar after over a month without must have been pretty damn good. ;D
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Post by RAKSHA on Sept 29, 2005 11:29:29 GMT -5
Mike flashbacks, Jin's Fate Revealed, and less of flashback-Jack whining. Another Vincent appearance would have been nice, but one can't have everything, I suppose.
I guess Jack met his patient-turned-girlfriend/bride several years in the past - Jack has a good memory for people he meets for a few minutes, doesn't he.
And Mike and Sawyer are out of the frying pan and well into the fire. Looks like the Others are running a slave labor camp there and trying to break poor Jin. Hopefully we'll see Walt again...
Oh, I've seen the actor who played Mike's lawyer before, playing a documentary filmmaker on Stargate SG-1.
GAIL Hey Gail, I'm gonna use your comments to quote off of, by respond to others as well. And I'm going to play devil's advocate. Usually I try to subscribe to the premise that if I didn't like something I don't harp on it. I try to let those who did like it just enjoy it without my whining but just to show how folks have different tastes: [DISCLAIMER---in spite of all of the complaints below the show was mildly entertaining, just not, IMO, one of LOST's better efforts.) GAIL: "I thought this episode was better than last week's - much more edge-of-my-seat gripping. Maybe because of the shark, the great Mike-Sawyer interaction," ME: I thought the ep was rather slow and boring partly because of the lame "look out there's a big shark in this small, totally calm, dark patch of water we are floating in. A shark which we know will do no lasting harm to either of us. And let's spend endless minutes screaming like children at each other about blame. (I could watch CNN for that!) As for the flashbacks, totally with Lola on the "can't they just compromise on the taking him out of the country. I completely don't understand what Michael has to terminate his parental rights and allow him to be adopted just so she can move to Europe. Susan is a witch. Wouldn't most women encourage a child's real father to maintain contact. Especially since she claims to respect Michael? Finally, the other half of the episode was somewhat more entertaining, except we spent half the ep just getting back to the exact same spot we ended at last week except that this time around we know Kate is in the (again, Lola) "every popular, always convenient ductwork. Always surprisingly big enough for a person to crawl around in." Lame shark, lame ductwork, no progress on either plotline. ======================================== The Quarantine question is interesting. Regarding Jin's "others." Personally....I don't think they are The Others. Going on the preview, I think they are just other plane survivors who have also been menaced and, as Jin can speak no English to tell them who he is, are suspicious of him and restrained him. But I haven't rewatched and may well have missed some important clues. So you may ignore this comment. Well, great minds don't always think alike, which is fine, it would be boring if we simply all recycled each others' opinions with no differences. I enjoyed the Sawyer/Mike banter because it seemed very male to me; and neither of them seem like extremely mature individuals to me, though both are more grown-up than they were 44 days ago. And I really liked it when Mike finally admitted to Sawyer that Walt's plight was Mike's fault for dragging the kid on the raft in the first place.
I was worried about the shark. I had heard that one of the guys on the raft would not survive. Anyway, sharks scare me.
I didn't like Susan in last year's flashback and I didn't like her any better in last night's flashback. I mean, she gets to have her cake and eat it too, while totally cutting her former lover out of their son's life when he wanted to be the child's father. Susan wanted a more glamorous life with her boss-turned-husband in international circles; that was more important to her than the right of her son to know the father who loved him. She persuaded Mike to give up his rights on the grounds, IIRC, that she and the wealthy boyfriend/hubby could give the child a better life, and Walt, injured and unemployed, went along for the child's sake. But it turned out that Susan's husband didn't care for Walt at all, tossed him back to a virtual stranger (as far as poor Walt knew) after Susan died. Walt was just Susan's accessory to him, a package deal. I really felt sorry for Walt after his mother died; abandoned by the only father he knew and handed over to a new father who was unprepared and not enthusiastic about taking him, but doing his duty (remember Mike's phone call to his mother at the airport, begging her to take the kid - which Walt overheard).
RAKSHA
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Post by leftylady on Sept 29, 2005 12:24:42 GMT -5
"Adrift" - the title seemed so appropriate. The survivors (all of them) were so adrift.
Filled in missing pieces, lead up to new characters from plane & "The Others" - "gone native"?
I did like the episode but definitely "adrift".
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Post by Lola m on Sept 29, 2005 12:31:09 GMT -5
Awwwww. So Michael gave Walt his first polar bear . . . setting the stage for all those years later when they'd be trapped in the bamboo about to be eaten. Awwww. Actually, that is pretty cool. It means that Walt did remember and care about his dad in some way if he held on to his interest in them because he got a toy from his dad all those years ago. (Pause for a big awwwww for widdle Walt in his short pants. ) And then Michael on the raft - "Gonna get him back" - and thus they land on the island. The side where the Others are. So he can go get Walt. Island keeps giving folks what they want, eh? Very nice bit with Jin. Suddenly running out of the jungle - he must have escaped - and then the words "the Others" and the look over their shoulders! The Others look like torch and club bearing angry villagers to me. So, did they get "sick" and go nutty? Is Desmond hiding from them? So, on the Jin front: do we put down Michael and Sawyer not noticing that things with Jin were seriously amiss to stress? 'Cause the first thing I thought was, "How'd his hands get tied...oh dear." I didn't NEED to speak Korean to know that someone was chasing him. If someone wasn't chasing him...he wouldn't be running. Tied up. Yeah, pretty much the first thing I thought of when he came running out of the jungle with his arms tied behind him. Then again, I'm not all disoriented and dehydrated and wounded and haven't been floating on the remains of a raft fighting off sharks. So, yeah, I'm gonna call it stress. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Sept 29, 2005 12:31:52 GMT -5
We had the sound turned low so Jeremy could concentrate on his home work. When Jin ran out, the closed captioning read "Udders! Udders! Udders!" before finally getting it right with "Others!" Thought someone had turned on the surrealism generator at the captioning company, or else things were going to take a strangely bovine turn. #rofl1# Mooooo! #rofl1#
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Post by Lola m on Sept 29, 2005 12:36:51 GMT -5
I think the thrall has gone out of our relationship. There was also the whole confusion of switching from PBS to ABC five minutes early - I didn't know they were repeating last week's episode (which is clever). So, we got to see Locke get the go down the shaft this time. Meanwhile, back at the raft... Michael and Sawyer do their best Laurel and Hardy impression. "What are you gonna do, splash me?" Not to mention that every time someone gets angry, the ID monster shows up. It's pretty predictable. Kate finds candy bars. They must be pretty stale. Locke, don't type those numbers! The numbers are bad! Too much underwater photography. Too much Jaws. And, as Paul said, "So, the second episode of the second season, they jumped the shark". And, zombies. It wanted only zombies. There were a couple of things I liked: The look on Kate's face when that music started up - that was the best WTF face (thank you, Wisteria) I've ever seen. Also, Michael gave Walt a polar bear! Walt has polar bears on the brain. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Sept 29, 2005 12:39:45 GMT -5
dose anyone have pics of the Spanish comic that Walt is reading in "lost"... I think it could help unravel the mystery. I know there is a link to a screen capture of the comic, but I can't remember what thread it is in. You might want to look at the thread for the second ep or Walt's flashback ep - "Special". I'll bet it's in one of those.
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Post by Sharky on Sept 29, 2005 13:48:45 GMT -5
There's a sense I have that things are just opening up. Now you've got those who stayed, those who are "down the hatch" and those who are confronting "Others", whether they prove to be The Others or not. We've got quarantines and global armageddon and descendants of pirates. Where's the story going next? Don't know, but the writers haven't painted themselves into a corner by any means!
Yes, the episode didn't move the story forward but it did fill in some blanks. While dramatic, I didn't feel like the flashbacks enhanced my understanding of Michael at all. Okay, he feels like he's given up his son too many times. I knew that already.
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Post by Dragon on Oct 1, 2005 0:08:23 GMT -5
So, on the Jin front: do we put down Michael and Sawyer not noticing that things with Jin were seriously amiss to stress? 'Cause the first thing I thought was, "How'd his hands get tied...oh dear." I didn't NEED to speak Korean to know that someone was chasing him. If someone wasn't chasing him...he wouldn't be running. Tied up. Yeah, I'm going with extreme stress myself--Sawyer's in a truckload of pain, and I doubt Michael slept at all during the night. But I do have to admit that while it was obvious Jin had escaped from something, I didn't immediately figure someone was right behind him. In fact, I was hoping they were someone back in the jungle and that our three boys would have time to go hide out somewhere. And, to touch on one of Sue's comments, I do think they were the Others--mostly because in the preview for next week Ana-Lucia was already in the pit the guys get thrown into. Since she's obviously been imprisoned by these folk, my instinct was that this group of people see her as an outsider. And as she identifies herself as a survivor of the flight 815 crash, then to me that means her jailers don't consider themselves as such. If that makes any sense at all. Isn't she the woman that Jack met in the bar at the airport? If so, Kate has competition! Dragon
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Post by Moscow Watcher on Oct 2, 2005 14:48:18 GMT -5
Specially for Guest ************ Some thoughts on the episode Sawyer\Michael rows on the raft sounded lame. I could see the writers trying to squeeze out the conflict between them. "What are you gonna do, splash me?" Is it just my foreign ears, or it does really sound as a derivative of "What are you gonna do, lick me to death?" I totally agree with people who say that the bunker scenes would be much more creepy and intense if we didn't know the outcome. The white teddy bear in flashback is a great retcon. True gem. The Others definitely looked like zombies to me. They weren't chasing Jin. They were walking slowly. All I could think was " poor Michelle Rodriguez is back to Resident Evil!" Talking about recurring themes... Javier Grillo-Marxuach, supervising producer and writer at 'Lost', sees Serenity as Alien Resurrection part deux. www.livejournal.com/users/chaodai/33454.html*************** LMAO!
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