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Post by Karen on Sept 28, 2005 11:07:31 GMT -5
Discuss away!
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Post by Lola m on Sept 28, 2005 21:14:52 GMT -5
Squeeeeee! Wet Sawyer saving Michael! Only things that would make it better is if Jin is OK too and if Sawyer gives Mike mouth to mouth.  Are they showing Locke and the hatch again so we know the timeline on the raft? |
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Post by Lola m on Sept 28, 2005 21:26:24 GMT -5
Wow, I did get Sawyer giving Michael mouth to mouth - and wrestling on the raft as well! Woot!
I wish I had a million dollars.
Darn.
Liked the lawyer - if you walked in here, I'm all you can afford.
Michael calls for Walt, Sawyer calls for Jin.
We get Locke's story in the bunker, too. Cool!
Yes!!! Desmond's shirt sign on the wall in the bunker!
Are you him? Who's Desmond waiting for? It's not Jack, he knows who he is.
Michael's gonna blame Sawyer? "Get off my raft"?
Maybe it's not a monster under the raft, maybe it's just Jin!
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Post by RAKSHA on Sept 28, 2005 21:39:42 GMT -5
I thought this episode was better than last week's - much more edge-of-my-seat gripping. Maybe because of the shark, the great Mike-Sawyer interaction, Mike flashbacks, Jin's Fate Revealed, and less of flashback-Jack whining. Another Vincent appearance would have been nice, but one can't have everything, I suppose.
I guess Jack met his patient-turned-girlfriend/bride several years in the past - Jack has a good memory for people he meets for a few minutes, doesn't he.
And Mike and Sawyer are out of the frying pan and well into the fire. Looks like the Others are running a slave labor camp there and trying to break poor Jin. Hopefully we'll see Walt again...
Oh, I've seen the actor who played Mike's lawyer before, playing a documentary filmmaker on Stargate SG-1.
GAIL 
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Post by Lola m on Sept 28, 2005 21:40:05 GMT -5
Dang. Sawyer and Michael are both totally stubborn SOBs, aren't they?
"What did one snowman say to the other snowman"?
So, Desmond has been down in the bunker for a loooong time waiting for "him". To relieve him in his watch over the quaranteened island?
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Post by Lola m on Sept 28, 2005 22:02:07 GMT -5
Man, we're getting a lot of stuff in this ep! Virgin Mary smack is the bestest smack. Sawyer and Michael are acting like 12 year olds. No, wait, more like 7 year olds.  Huh. But Sawyer did figure out they came for Walt - clever Sawyer! Why doesn't Walt's mom just ask for permission to take him to Italy? Why insist on him giving up his parental rights? Well, I know, so he can be adopted and things will be easier . . . but still. It was bound to push Michael over the edge. And the whole "not about me or you, it's about him". Well, a bit. But really it is about her. I mean, she's the one wanting this move because it's a good job for her. I'm not saying that's wrong, but it is "about" her. Locke passed Kate a knife! I knew it! Ooooh. Limber Kate.  Food! LOL and it's all labeled like generic stuff. "Candy". Heee. Makes me think of Repo Man. ;D Gosh, the every popular, always convenient ductwork. Always surprisingly big enough for a person to crawl around in. "The world's still out there"? So, Desmond does think that there's some kind of world threatening thing. Asking about sickness. Does he think it happened all over the world, not just on the island? Someone is running an experiment on the island!!
Why type in the numbers? What is it doing? Does that just broadcast them? Do they have to keep broadcasting so the island experiment runners know he's still there? What did they tell him about them - what did they say that using the numbers would do?
Man - this is a good ep!
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Post by Lola m on Sept 28, 2005 22:10:00 GMT -5
Whoa! Desmond almost got Kate there . . . Scary shark stuff with Mike and Sawyer. |
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Post by Lola m on Sept 28, 2005 22:26:53 GMT -5
Awwwww. So Michael gave Walt his first polar bear . . . setting the stage for all those years later when they'd be trapped in the bamboo about to be eaten. Awwww. Actually, that is pretty cool. It means that Walt did remember and care about his dad in some way if he held on to his interest in them because he got a toy from his dad all those years ago. (Pause for a big awwwww for widdle Walt in his short pants.  ) And then Michael on the raft - "Gonna get him back" - and thus they land on the island. The side where the Others are. So he can go get Walt. Island keeps giving folks what they want, eh? Very nice bit with Jin. Suddenly running out of the jungle - he must have escaped - and then the words "the Others" and the look over their shoulders! The Others look like torch and club bearing angry villagers to me. So, did they get "sick" and go nutty? Is Desmond hiding from them? |
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Post by Lola m on Sept 28, 2005 22:39:34 GMT -5
I thought this episode was better than last week's - much more edge-of-my-seat gripping. Much better! Very exciting and really seemed to move the story along. ;D Well, Desmond seemed very "special", perhaps. Maybe he'll end up the ruler of the Others! ;D [/color][/quote] That's where I'd seen him most recently! |
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Post by Rachael on Sept 29, 2005 0:04:24 GMT -5
Awwwww. So Michael gave Walt his first polar bear . . . setting the stage for all those years later when they'd be trapped in the bamboo about to be eaten. Awwww. Actually, that is pretty cool. It means that Walt did remember and care about his dad in some way if he held on to his interest in them because he got a toy from his dad all those years ago. (Pause for a big awwwww for widdle Walt in his short pants. ) And then Michael on the raft - "Gonna get him back" - and thus they land on the island. The side where the Others are. So he can go get Walt. Island keeps giving folks what they want, eh? Very nice bit with Jin. Suddenly running out of the jungle - he must have escaped - and then the words "the Others" and the look over their shoulders! The Others look like torch and club bearing angry villagers to me. So, did they get "sick" and go nutty? Is Desmond hiding from them? So, on the Jin front: do we put down Michael and Sawyer not noticing that things with Jin were seriously amiss to stress? 'Cause the first thing I thought was, "How'd his hands get tied...oh dear." I didn't NEED to speak Korean to know that someone was chasing him. If someone wasn't chasing him...he wouldn't be running. Tied up. |
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Post by Sharky on Sept 29, 2005 8:47:44 GMT -5
Wow, I did get Sawyer giving Michael mouth to mouth - and wrestling on the raft as well! Woot! I wish I had a million dollars. Darn. Liked the lawyer - if you walked in here, I'm all you can afford.
Michael calls for Walt, Sawyer calls for Jin. We get Locke's story in the bunker, too. Cool! Yes!!! Desmond's shirt sign on the wall in the bunker! Are you him? Who's Desmond waiting for? It's not Jack, he knows who he is. Michael's gonna blame Sawyer? "Get off my raft"? Maybe it's not a monster under the raft, maybe it's just Jin! Saul Rubinek is the actor, and he's usually good. He played both Saul Panzer and Lon Cohen on "Nero Wolfe". I believe he was a lawyer on "Frasier" as well. It was a good line. |
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Post by Sharky on Sept 29, 2005 8:50:15 GMT -5
We had the sound turned low so Jeremy could concentrate on his home work. When Jin ran out, the closed captioning read "Udders! Udders! Udders!" before finally getting it right with "Others!"
Thought someone had turned on the surrealism generator at the captioning company, or else things were going to take a strangely bovine turn.
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Post by Sue on Sept 29, 2005 9:15:04 GMT -5
Mike flashbacks, Jin's Fate Revealed, and less of flashback-Jack whining. Another Vincent appearance would have been nice, but one can't have everything, I suppose.
I guess Jack met his patient-turned-girlfriend/bride several years in the past - Jack has a good memory for people he meets for a few minutes, doesn't he.
And Mike and Sawyer are out of the frying pan and well into the fire. Looks like the Others are running a slave labor camp there and trying to break poor Jin. Hopefully we'll see Walt again...
Oh, I've seen the actor who played Mike's lawyer before, playing a documentary filmmaker on Stargate SG-1.
GAIL Hey Gail, I'm gonna use your comments to quote off of, by respond to others as well. And I'm going to play devil's advocate. Usually I try to subscribe to the premise that if I didn't like something I don't harp on it. I try to let those who did like it just enjoy it without my whining but just to show how folks have different tastes: [DISCLAIMER---in spite of all of the complaints below the show was mildly entertaining, just not, IMO, one of LOST's better efforts.) GAIL: "I thought this episode was better than last week's - much more edge-of-my-seat gripping. Maybe because of the shark, the great Mike-Sawyer interaction," ME: I thought the ep was rather slow and boring partly because of the lame "look out there's a big shark in this small, totally calm, dark patch of water we are floating in. A shark which we know will do no lasting harm to either of us. And let's spend endless minutes screaming like children at each other about blame. (I could watch CNN for that!) As for the flashbacks, totally with Lola on the "can't they just compromise on the taking him out of the country. I completely don't understand what Michael has to terminate his parental rights and allow him to be adopted just so she can move to Europe. Susan is a witch. Wouldn't most women encourage a child's real father to maintain contact. Especially since she claims to respect Michael? Finally, the other half of the episode was somewhat more entertaining, except we spent half the ep just getting back to the exact same spot we ended at last week except that this time around we know Kate is in the (again, Lola) "every popular, always convenient ductwork. Always surprisingly big enough for a person to crawl around in." Lame shark, lame ductwork, no progress on either plotline. ======================================== The Quarantine question is interesting. Regarding Jin's "others." Personally....I don't think they are The Others. Going on the preview, I think they are just other plane survivors who have also been menaced and, as Jin can speak no English to tell them who he is, are suspicious of him and restrained him. But I haven't rewatched and may well have missed some important clues. So you may ignore this comment. |
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Post by Sue on Sept 29, 2005 9:16:05 GMT -5
Rachael: agree on the noticing that Jin was tied up.
Lola: agree on the polar bear thing.
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Post by Sharky on Sept 29, 2005 9:22:23 GMT -5
Interesting. This was an odd episode for me. Michael angered me with his blaming of Sawyer for the loss of Walt. But, Michael's attitude as been an irritant over the course of the series, so that's no surprise.
Getting Locke's and Kate's POV's on the events of last week were the highlights for me. I didn't get much out of the raft sequence or the flashbacks.
Q: "What did one snowman say to the other snowman?"
A: "Do you smell carrots?"
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Huh. But Sawyer did figure out they came for Walt - clever Sawyer!
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