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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:17:12 GMT -5
Watergal:
Gotta tell ya.
When I was in Junior College, yes this was before they were all Community COlleges (pl?), I took French for one semester. At the end of the semester, my French teacher took me aside and said, "I will give you a 'D' if you promise never to take French again."
I promised, she gave me a 'D', and I never took not only French, but any other language. I swear, this is the truth.
So...my foray into the one phrase I know mostly came from the CD, oh gosh, you know the one, the soundtrack from the movie where Patrick Swayze and Wesley Snipes were drag queens. I can see the picture and still can't remember the title.
At any rate...I would share that (meaning a diaper or anything personal and intimate) too with JM.
Edited By Lee Parish at 2/14/2003 4:53:00 PM.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:18:18 GMT -5
*chuckles* well in that case Lee, you did very well. You even spelled all the words correctly. Kudos.
And the movie in question is "To Wong Foo, thanks for everything, Julie Newmar." Or something like that. That movie made me laugh a lot.
*dances around in her chair to the music playing in her head*
Watergal
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:19:25 GMT -5
Miss Pam:
Today being Valentine's Day, I gave the ladies at work, valentines with a picture of The Rock. I told them I didn't want them to forget what a real man looked like.
I would never give them a valentine with JM on it because I would end up keeping them all. Besides, I wouldn't want to be working with ladies whose minds were in the gutter along with mine.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:20:05 GMT -5
That's IT!!
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:20:53 GMT -5
Does anyone know how I can get my a hand on seakers WITH heels? Seems like it could be a good compromise The comfiness of a sneaker combined with the sexiness of a heel. Yeah, I like that. Maybe I should patent the idea. =)
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:21:39 GMT -5
Watergal, I don't know where to get sneakers with heels, but there was a song once in the 60's called, "High Heeled Sneakers." I don't know how yu could make them unless they were wedges. It's an interesting mental pic though.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:22:52 GMT -5
He was a cockney btw. Not at all like Giles or even Spike (who contrary to the opinion expressed in a number of articles I've read does not speak in a cockney accent.:
Actually Deborah, Spike's accent varies. When he was "big bad" he spoke in a lower class London accent. Very flat sounding and slightly nasal. But his "good boy" accent sounds (to my American ears, anyway)like the Public School accent that well-off people send their children to.
I can't get my spouse to watch BTVS, so I don't know for sure how good the accent is. I do know that he likes Anthony Stewart Head from watching 'Manchild.'
Diane U.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:23:45 GMT -5
I believe that human William spoke posh public school English and that after he was turned and became Spike he cultivated a working class, London accent. Remember in "Fool For Love" when they're hiding in a Yorkshire coal mine Angel asks Spike since when he started speaking that way? In an JM interview I read once he said that he patterned the original accent he used after an English actor he was in theatre with but then started using ASH's natural accent (rather than Giles')which is more working class.
But my original point was just that Spike has never spoken cockney.
Deborah Cohen
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:24:45 GMT -5
Heheh! Oh, don't feel TOO dated; there's a few people who regularly come to the wrestling shows of the fed I'm involved with who remember SEEING Gorgeous George himself - so probably about your Grandmother's age! At least it's your Grandma and not you. ;-) But wow, Diane - that is so COOL both about your daughter (do you remember who the WWF talent scout was?) AND actually getting to talk with maybe the suavest MOVIE vamp actor of the late 20th century, Frank Langella! Have you thought of or would you be able to post any of your vampire research on the S3 website? Oh, and speaking of websites, my husband and I are the co-webmasters for the official Ohio Valley Wrestling website. We don't own it or anything; we just build and maintain the website plus handle other administrivia, online merchandise sales, etc. The URL is www.ovwrestling.com. We're getting ready to have our first-ever tryout camp, which will be like a weeklong workshop/workout/audition for new and experienced wrestlers in front of OVW and WWE (formerly WWF) talent reps! OVW is an old-school, independent wrestling federation based in Louisville, Kentucky, but we also have a contractual agreement with the WWE as their sole "official" developmental training facility - we're like the only official AAA farm club of pro wrestling; pretty neat! A lot of newer talent fans see on WWE tv came out of OVW, and of course we're proud of the extremely high level of athleticism and professionalism most of these good men and women have. Also a lot of the longer-term WWE talent have done shows with us, so we feel lucky and blessed to have these opportunities. Sorry - didn't mean to sound like a commercial there, but there are many similarities among different types of entertainment, and it's all good when done well. Miss Pamela
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:26:26 GMT -5
From what I've seen, I'd totally agree with Langella. The bad guys have more fun; they can do about anything and get away with it a lot more! I was so surprised at first to learn that many wrestlers prefer being "heels" because they feel, among other things, they get to showcase their full range of talents more. The booing and heckling (as long as it's not like racist or truly mean-spirited) doesn't bother them; they love it - they just want a reaction from the fans!
And yeah, now I wonder what would've happened with Riley's character had they allowed him to PLAY more "gray" rather than just BE and WEAR "gray" (fatigues, as you said).
Hey - wouldn't it be kinda cool if you could get the BtVS cast to re-shoot one episode of S4 or S5 with James Marsters and Marc Blucas in reverse roles, just to see how they'd handle it? Everything else would be exactly the same - Marc and James would be given the same precise amount of latitude with their roles as the other had in playing the original episode. All else being equal, would James be able to flesh out better or bring more depth to the Riley role than Marc did?
In other words, the above challenge might partly answer the question about the ultimate fate of the Riley character: was it the acting or the writing/directing that may have led to the fans' general dislike of the character? Or was Angel just too big of an act to follow for a character like Riley? I'm sure ME wanted someone totally different from Angel, and I can understand that - but if the fans were happy with a type of romantic interest LIKE Angel, then that's where ME may have screwed up. Of course Spike isn't like Angel in many ways, but he's closer to his type than Riley was, and not JUST because he's another master vampire.
Miss Pamela
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:27:52 GMT -5
Happy Valentine's Day, Lee!!
Heheh - I hear ya! No!Share!Spike!!! Your story about only giving out valentines w/The Rock on them reminds me of how I used to not buy any Halloween candy that *I* liked so I wouldn't be tempted to snarf it all before the trick-or-treaters showed up.
Now my latest JM (not Spike) daydream is that he's actually a closet pro wrestling fan: "You want a picture of WHO? No Problem! No, I won't take any money for that... let's take it out in trade, whaddya say?" ;-)
Miss Pamela
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:29:03 GMT -5
Deborah said, "What if whenever one of us notices an independently posted Spike comment or question he/she responds saying that their question/comment is perfect for our (board/topic?) and to maximize their feedback we have taken the liberty of copying their post under SSS? Then say something about how we are not an exclusive club but an open arena for all Spike/Buffy related discussion, please check there for addtional responses and come post with us. " -
I actually did that once already (not the reposting on our board part). I don't know if those scoopme's are lurking on SSS or not. I could come up with stock verbiage for inviting them to join us, but where would I put it? If any of us read comments that we wish they had posted here, maybe just invite them to contribute their thoughts at SSS. Tell them you enjoyed their ideas and we would like them to share their ideas with this board. If you like these sentences, maybe you can stash them somewhere convenient for cutting and pasting? Or adjusting to suit the particular situation.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:31:05 GMT -5
I read an interview (don't know if I can find it again) with James Marsters where he said Joss came to him *sometime* before (or during?) season five, I believe, and said he was warning JM that they were going to pair Spike and Buffy. Maybe it was after Riley crashed and burned with fans. I don't know how fast he was rejected for a love interest for Buffy. Maybe someone else knows how quickly the reaction set in against Riley. With emough research time, we could find out ourselves by going backwards through the fourth season episode posts where Riley starts to be paired with Buffy. We would see there just how fast the fans said, "NO!". Now who is the History Chair?
Alexandra K.
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:32:24 GMT -5
The first Buffy eps I watched were late season four, which is going to effect my view. I mean, when I meet Buffy for the first time Willow is gay, Anya is Anya, Buffy dates Riley, Spike is this annoying vampire guy but no one seems threatend by him, and they killed of the main villain and followed it with a crazy awsome dream episode *oh my god!?!* I knew no better than to not like Riley, and like him I did. The only time where the Buffy/Angel romance did anything for me was at the end of "Amends." I don't know how they did that without it seeming like hammy over-acting, but they did. That scene is just great. Riley never really got to have a great scene like that (although I both agree with Riley and Xander and like their talks with Buffy in "Into the Woods"), but I think he's the only real boyfriend Buffy ever had. Having a guy like Angel in your life, I mean, it's very much a fantasy type relationship that looks great on TV and in comics, but would have mostly negative impacts on a girl like Buffy.
As for Miss Pamela, now that you have revealed your secret ties to the world of professional wrestling, the name seems vaguely familar. Is there anywhere I might have read it or heard it besides on the Ohio Valley Wrestling website? My wrestling interest peaked about a year and a half ago or more maybe, with IGN's kay fabe breaking site, although from the little wrestling I watch now, it seems as if anything and everything that happens backstage is reflected onstage in order to play to the former "smart" ECW and internet crowd. I never really found another wrestling news site I liked, and somehow just going to back to watching with out one never happened. Imagine watching Buffy, only now there is no ScoopMe, no online community, you never hear anything about Joss or the writers, it's only whats on the screen. You'd enjoy, but knowing what you're missing feels wierd.
*notes to himself: Wow, that was kind of a wierd wrestling confessional thing. Where the heck did that come from?*
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Post by Dalton on Jul 13, 2003 15:33:13 GMT -5
Why did I ask James Marsters why he thinks he keeps getting dumped when I could have asked the questions you all did??? Stupid cubed!!@!
"Marry me." "Sleep with me." How could I have missed these obviously perfect questions? I wasted my opportunity and (she fumes at her own stupidity), the original question was *mine*!!
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