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Post by Lola m on Apr 6, 2006 7:59:04 GMT -5
That was like the best. Thing. Ever. I was dying--the way Hurley kept dragging him back under the tent, and Jin laughing at him--it was hilarious. ;D If I had been there, I would so totally have been doing exactly what Jin was. So great to see someone just take Sawyer out and whup him like nobody's business. And to have it be Hurley? Calm, "let's everybody chill, dudes" Hurley? Too. Good!
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Post by Lola m on Apr 6, 2006 8:04:23 GMT -5
k, I loved this episode! Hurley is, well, Dude!! I loved his response when it was suggested that he ration out the food again! Kicking Sawyers ass! That was months of pent up frustration from all the jabs Sawyer made about his weight! I loved it, and more so I loved loved loved everyones expressions as it happened. Sun's look of shock, Jin laughing, then Sun telling him to break it up, and oh her look when Hurley landed on Jin was absolutely priceless!! Just too good! I loved Jin waiting to jump in until it was clear that Hurley was just kicking Sawyer's ass big time. ;D Yup! Kudos to the "Libby was a patient" guessers! I am completely with you there. There's no way a plane dropped it. And the blast doors were an attempt to keep the bunker folk from realising that. Or something. I'm now wondering if the stuff isn't brought by boat to another side of the island, trucked through tunnels underground and then brought up to the surface fairly close to where it was left. ;D When we find out she's been stalking him since the hospital and secretely caused the plane crash to be with him? I am really starting to go a little nuts about Michael. I need to know what's up with him and Walt. To mess with our heads. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Apr 6, 2006 8:05:34 GMT -5
I dunno. Doesn't look to me like Henry-not-Henry is a good guy. I mean...why play the "how many different ways can I think to lie about this" game? He's not even GOOD at it. **nods** Yeah. The big question to me is still "why didn't he just say who he was from the beginning. He still hasn't answered that. And the look on his face from the "scenes from next week" was very creepy.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 6, 2006 8:11:42 GMT -5
I can't believe there are only three pages of posts! This episode rocked so hard! I wasn't sure about Libby initially, but my current gut instinct - which might be more hopeful than dispassionate - is positive. Whatever her reasons for not revealing their shared past, they don't involve harmful intent toward Hurley. I think she's there to help him. Now that we have evidence that she did know him from before, I'm closer to thinking you may be right. **nods** It would invalidate too much of the story from the viewers perspective. Plus, the fact they implied it, and so soon in the series, means they're eliminating it from the serious possible explanations. Well, at least that's what I think right now. Sawyer's ego is getting some well-needed deflation. Which is funny. ;D But, seriously, you're right. Both Jack and Hurley have caused him to look foolish in front of others. And that could well be dangerous; we've seen how Sawyer can hold a grudge and that he's a murderer. Huh. One more person who "thinks" he's a murderer. Add Hurley to the list of island folks who are responsible, or feel responsible for another person's death . . . Eetah!!! And now that he's had a dramatic episode devoted to him, I'll bet he'll be taken more seriously in the awards thinking. Because awards tend to downplay comedic acting (insane as that is, since every actor will tell you comedy is harder) in favor of drama.
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Post by Jan on Apr 6, 2006 8:15:02 GMT -5
Whoever said Libby was from the mental hospital, good one for you too! That was ME!!! I feel so ... RIGHT!!!! Mwah ha ha.
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Post by Jan on Apr 6, 2006 8:17:33 GMT -5
Whoever said Libby was from the mental hospital, good one for you too! I guess maybe Libby got cured of her mental illness the way Locke got cured of his physical disability, and possibly Jin got cured of his infertility? If you noticed the look on her face as she and Hurley walked away from the cliff--well, I'm not so sure she's "cured." Which I would hate, because I don't want them implying that only a nut case could love a fat guy. Especially not our wonderful Hurley.
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Post by Jan on Apr 6, 2006 8:27:10 GMT -5
k, I loved this episode! Hurley is, well, Dude!! I loved his response when it was suggested that he ration out the food again! Kicking Sawyers ass! That was months of pent up frustration from all the jabs Sawyer made about his weight! I loved it, and more so I loved loved loved everyones expressions as it happened. Sun's look of shock, Jin laughing, then Sun telling him to break it up, and oh her look when Hurley landed on Jin was absolutely priceless!! I know Wendy mentioned to me about 3 months ago that she thought Libby was a patient at the Hospital with Hurley, so props to her! (I thought she was a doctor there). If it was a plane that dropped the food, it would have had to fly really really high in order for no one to see or hear it, and with a parachute flying really high just would not have worked. Too much chance of missing the Island and having the food land in the water. So how did the drop happen? Hurley gets a woman!! good for him!! I think Libby is so adorable! I frankly dont care if she was a little crazy. Unless she was dangerous, but then she would not have been let out of the Hospital. I cant wait to see where they go with that storyline (we will probably find out the answer in year 4.) Oh and next week they want to trade for Walt! I am just happy to see that story line progress any at all! I still want to know where Michael is, or Desmond for that matter! Did anyone catch that Dave said "See you in another life" to Hurley. That is the third time I have heard that very line! twice from Desmond, and now once from Dave! connection there? I hate to say it but it brings me back to the purgatory theory! (I hope this isnt the case, because I loathe that theory) But why have that line said 3 times? Sorry for taking sole credit if Wendy posted this, too. Hi, Wendy! I wish this was true, but unfortunately it isn't. It's impossible for anyone to predict future behavior, relapse, being off meds, etc. And also possible to intentionally fool shrinks.
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Post by Rob on Apr 6, 2006 10:06:52 GMT -5
If you noticed the look on her face as she and Hurley walked away from the cliff--well, I'm not so sure she's "cured." Which I would hate, because I don't want them implying that only a nut case could love a fat guy. Especially not our wonderful Hurley. There was a definite look on her face there, but it's impossible to tell what, precisely, it was supposed to mean. Could have been guilt, could have been relief that she wasn't caught. I admit I'm clinging to hope that her deceit isn't intended to be harmful. If the intent were malicious, I'm not sure what point would be served. "See, fundamentally decent fat guys can't get the girl?"
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Post by fish1941 on Apr 6, 2006 10:38:57 GMT -5
This is the second time that a Hurley-centric episode dealt with change - not only with Hurley's inability to change [see "Everybody Hates Hugo" (2.04)], but also his awareness that change - good and bad - will occur for the Lostaways. One of the show's producers had hinted that the episodes ending with 2.19 are the "calm before the storm". It certainly seems that way. I'm also beginning to think that Hurley might be the island's real avatar and not Locke. In fact, I believe that Locke is simply blind as the others.
Good moments for me:
*Libby convinces Hurley not to jump off the cliff
*Hurley attacks Sawyer
*Jin and Sun's reaction to Hurley's attack
*Ana-Lucia prevents Sayid from killing Henry
*Hurley turning his back on "Dave" at the institution
*Revelation that Libby had been a patient
*Henry reveals to Locke that the hatch's computer buttons are meaningless
*Locke fails to intimidate Ana-Lucia into allowing him to see Henry, and has to beg instead.
Speaking of change, has anyone noticed that some of the Lostaways haven't changed one whit? Locke is still wrapped up in his worship of the island. Sawyer continues to be annoying as usual. Kate continues to fluctuate between Jack and Sawyer. Sayid is still locked in his desire for revenge. And secrets are still being kept.
When Ana-Lucia mentioned "the bearded guy", I was surprised that Jack did not say anything. Either he has decided to continue keeping his own secrets, or Kate has yet to tell him or anyone else about the third hatch and the fake beard and glue she has found. And no one has questioned Charlie about the gun. This does not bode well.
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Post by Rachael on Apr 6, 2006 13:01:53 GMT -5
I guess maybe Libby got cured of her mental illness the way Locke got cured of his physical disability, and possibly Jin got cured of his infertility? Perhaps the island is Shambala/Shangri-La? A place where people are cured of their infirmities, even of aging, where humanity is perfected and technologies gathered and saved against the day when the human race faces exticntion. Tibetans call these places beyuls. Perhaps Hanso Corp is in the business of building beyuls. ...or it could be Hurley's delusion. I've thought the Shambala theory from the beginning - ever since Locke's legs. Maybe the outside world really has gone bye-bye, and they've been saved, along with others, to wait out the holocaust. The only problem I have with the Shambala theory is The Others. Typically, folks who've arrived in Shambala, after a period of adjustment, take to it (in the stories) like fish to water, and live in a sort of Tibetan Buddhist-style utopia. Which The Others haven't done. They prey on people on the island, to what purpose, we still don't know. Shambala with a resistance cell?
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Post by Rachael on Apr 6, 2006 13:08:07 GMT -5
So, if they're doing a storyline that's "it's all inside one person's head" this early? Then that's not the answer. Locke asks a good question - did you get caught on purpose? The count down is meaningless! Ha! Well, assuming he's telling the truth. I see three possibiities: 1) He's telling the truth, the countdown is meaningless, it's all a nasty psychological test that everyone but him failed. 2) He's lying, and he knows that something horrible will happen to the folks in and around the hatch when the button goes unpushed. Seems less likely, unless he's got a death wish or a sure-fire escape plan. But...could be he's been sent on a suicide mission to convince Locke to let the countdown count down. 3) He's lying, but he has no idea what would have happened if he'd let it go. Because he seems to lie just for mindfulk purposes, and so I could imagine he's doing that, yet again.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 6, 2006 13:09:19 GMT -5
Whoever said Libby was from the mental hospital, good one for you too! That was ME!!! I feel so ... RIGHT!!!! Mwah ha ha. Yours is a smart yet evil laugh.
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Post by Rachael on Apr 6, 2006 13:09:38 GMT -5
Hurley doesn't know the guy's name who broke his leg, because Hurley's not the creator. Just like God doesn't know how long they've been on the island? Oh- KISSAGE for Hurley and Libby!! And if Libby was in the hospital, then maybe she's not an evil Other, but just someone that fell for him in the hospital, stalked him to Australia and ended up on the same doomed plane! Which is so way cuter and sweeter than being an icky Other. Hmm. Not sure that stalking has to be involved. There are too many threads of "they were in the same place at the same time well before the flight" for me to think it's a coincidence. These folks are all connected, and were "brought" to the island by the intelligence that runs it. Or not.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 6, 2006 13:13:57 GMT -5
This is the second time that a Hurley-centric episode dealt with change - not only with Hurley's inability to change [see "Everybody Hates Hugo" (2.04)], but also his awareness that change - good and bad - will occur for the Lostaways. One of the show's producers had hinted that the episodes ending with 2.19 are the "calm before the storm". It certainly seems that way. I'm also beginning to think that Hurley might be the island's real avatar and not Locke. In fact, I believe that Locke is simply blind as the others. Good moments for me: *Libby convinces Hurley not to jump off the cliff *Hurley attacks Sawyer *Jin and Sun's reaction to Hurley's attack *Ana-Lucia prevents Sayid from killing Henry *Hurley turning his back on "Dave" at the institution *Revelation that Libby had been a patient *Henry reveals to Locke that the hatch's computer buttons are meaningless *Locke fails to intimidate Ana-Lucia into allowing him to see Henry, and has to beg instead. Speaking of change, has anyone noticed that some of the Lostaways haven't changed one whit? Locke is still wrapped up in his worship of the island. Sawyer continues to be annoying as usual. Kate continues to fluctuate between Jack and Sawyer. Sayid is still locked in his desire for revenge. And secrets are still being kept. When Ana-Lucia mentioned "the bearded guy", I was surprised that Jack did not say anything. Either he has decided to continue keeping his own secrets, or Kate has yet to tell him or anyone else about the third hatch and the fake beard and glue she has found. And no one has questioned Charlie about the gun. This does not bode well. Not spreading info is still rampant (there is no loop, indeed!) and very worrisome. Interesting thoughts on change - who hasn't, who has, etc. I would not be surprised at all to have Hurley be the key figure in all this. Frankly, just having him be the one that they first use to suggest "maybe it's all just inside one person's head" seems to tell us he's a, if not the, central figure. These guys badly need to break out of some patterns that they keep repeating. Well, like especially pushing the damn button. Not that I have button issues or anything. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Apr 6, 2006 13:14:42 GMT -5
Perhaps the island is Shambala/Shangri-La? A place where people are cured of their infirmities, even of aging, where humanity is perfected and technologies gathered and saved against the day when the human race faces exticntion. Tibetans call these places beyuls. Perhaps Hanso Corp is in the business of building beyuls. ...or it could be Hurley's delusion. I've thought the Shambala theory from the beginning - ever since Locke's legs. Maybe the outside world really has gone bye-bye, and they've been saved, along with others, to wait out the holocaust. The only problem I have with the Shambala theory is The Others. Typically, folks who've arrived in Shambala, after a period of adjustment, take to it (in the stories) like fish to water, and live in a sort of Tibetan Buddhist-style utopia. Which The Others haven't done. They prey on people on the island, to what purpose, we still don't know. Shambala with a resistance cell? Now that . . . is a really intriguing idea.
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