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Post by Lola m on Mar 7, 2007 23:57:20 GMT -5
"Sorry I beat you so bad, dude. . . . I got kinda good." ;D Hurley got him in the forehead! Heeee! Hurley brings back some of Sawyer's stuff because he knows Sawyer is the "kind of guy that needs stuff" and knows he's worried about Kate. Awwwww! I love Hurley sooooo very much. Locke! WTF, guy! Stop pushing the stupid buttons! DON'T enter 77, you dolt! Loved Sayid's "I didn't say you were our ticket, did I?" Ha! Take that, Eyepatch Man! Ooooh, a map to the "barracks". Hmmmm. So, is that the home of the "hostiles"? Is that the suburaban splendor of the Others? Are the hostiles and the Others one and the same? Are neither of them the Dharma folks? Or are the Dharma folks the Others and the hostiles are someone else? You have the map, why keep him alive . . . and this will relate to the flashback stuff. Damn, I love this woman. Saving the cat is how she was able to leave her apartment. "He does this, because sometimes he forgets that he is safe. I forgive him when he bites." Show her the respect of acknowledging it was him and that he remembers her. And so he responds to the simple request with the simple truth. "Your face has haunted me. I am sorry." And she forgives him and will get her husband to let him go by saying she made a mistake. Because she knows everyone is capable of horrible things, but "I will not do that. I will not be that." Excellent scene, just excellent!! And yes, now we have proof that 77 does blow it up. Stupid, Locke! Stupid!! Sayid looks like he could just have smacked Locke for that. Kitty!!! Awwwww, take the Nadia kitty with you, Sayid. Or maybe you think the cat will do better away from the danger you all represent. Or maybe you've realised that Vincent and his animal friends are really the ones running the island. Ha!!
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Post by Lola m on Mar 7, 2007 23:59:17 GMT -5
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Post by Lola m on Mar 7, 2007 23:59:51 GMT -5
Oh, Locke's lucky Sayid didn't kill him right then. Complete agreement, once again. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Mar 8, 2007 0:04:22 GMT -5
Heh! Hugo spanked him! LOCKE!! Dammit!! STOP playing the freaking game! Sayid, can't you salvage the explosives? Sayid! Did you TELL them about the explosives? I think they need to find him a good button-pushing 12 step group or something. Heee! Even in the midst of that wonderful scene, I had the same thought too. ;D **nods** Yup. And carrying Nadia's name . . . it's like an omen. Which is probably why he didn't take the kitty; it spooked him too much. **raised hand** Well, they go with the giant four toed foot, I guess. ;D
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Post by Lola m on Mar 8, 2007 0:05:42 GMT -5
Talk about your freaky coincidences. The actress who played Amira, Anne Bedian (also billed as Anne Nahabedian), appeared in an episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent. The name of that episode was "Shibboleth." I now draw your attention to this item from the Wiki entry about the number 77: "During World War II in Sweden at the border with Norway, "77" was used as a Shibboleth (password), because the tricky pronunciation in Swedish made it easy to instantly discern whether the speaker was native Swedish, Norwegian, or German." Whoa. Cue twilight zone theme song . . . ;D
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Post by Lola m on Mar 8, 2007 0:07:19 GMT -5
VERY good point.... Locke used to be one of my favorite characters, the whole deeper meaning thing, but they have really turned him into a drone. push the button, press this, do that, I am sorry but he went from one of my favorites, to one of my least favorites. Well, he's always had issues with getting obsessed. Obsessed with his dad, with anger, etc. So, I guess I can see how he'd turn that obsession toward other things. But it still makes me want to slap him.
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Post by Lola m on Mar 8, 2007 0:09:21 GMT -5
Locke used to be one of my favorite characters, the whole deeper meaning thing, but they have really turned him into a drone. push the button, press this, do that, I am sorry but he went from one of my favorites, to one of my least favorites. Locke has definitely been all about the "Don't tell me what I can't do." lately. He seems to have lost his purpose when he lost the computer that needed the numbers entered. And it doesn't help that after he had his "I won't push these numbers" epiphany, it turned out that the numbers did need to be pushed.
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Post by RAKSHA on Mar 8, 2007 0:11:54 GMT -5
Locke used to be one of my favorite characters, the whole deeper meaning thing, but they have really turned him into a drone. push the button, press this, do that, I am sorry but he went from one of my favorites, to one of my least favorites. Well, he's always had issues with getting obsessed. Obsessed with his dad, with anger, etc. So, I guess I can see how he'd turn that obsession toward other things. But it still makes me want to slap him. I just never thought that Locke would be so stupid - even I knew the setup spelled T-R-A-P. It's like something that Charlie (who's not a moron, but not the brightest bulb on the shelf either) would do.
Other than that, a great episode; Sayyid getting much needed screen time and shining in his scenes.
But Locke was one of my favorite characters; I don't like them dumbing him down.
GAIL
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Post by Sara on Mar 8, 2007 9:21:37 GMT -5
VERY good point.... Locke used to be one of my favorite characters, the whole deeper meaning thing, but they have really turned him into a drone. push the button, press this, do that, I am sorry but he went from one of my favorites, to one of my least favorites. When I think about it, though, now that the urge to beat his head in with the iced tea pitcher has passed, Locke's decision does make a certain amount of sense. 'Cause the last time he questioned whether entering a particular set of digits was the right thing to do, he decided it wasn't—and we all know how that turned out. So when confronted with the same choice in a different Dharma bunker, I can see where he'd figured it'd be best to pay attention to Dr. Candle's instructions this time around. His mistake was in having too high an opinion of his own intelligence; he never once stopped to wonder how it was he beat the computer at chess—a program ostensibly created by three grandmasters—when Mikhail, who hails from a country where playing chess isn't just for dorky kids in the a/v club, claimed he'd failed to do so even once in several years.
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Post by Squeemonster on Mar 8, 2007 9:22:50 GMT -5
Sawyer, you are a diphole. I love ya, man, but seriously, you are an assjack. "Avalanche" "No nicknames" AWESOME!! "For a week" because he'd actually DIE if he had to PERMENANTLY stop using pop-cultural references. ;D Heck, one week is going to be painful when he loses. 'Cuz you know he's going to lose. Heh! Just what I was thinking. Classic Rousseau. ;D I say they collect the whole set and we end up getting a Plato, a Spinoza, a Hume and a Hegel. But if a Kierkegaard or, heaven forfend, a Nietzsche show up, look out! ;D
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Post by Sara on Mar 8, 2007 9:40:49 GMT -5
From EW's TV Watch:
I was glad to get a little Sayid backstory that didn't include any scenes of torture, since I'm getting enough of that on 24 these days. Sayid, who was working as a chef in Paris, confessed to torturing a woman, although the scene left the possibility that he was lying to (a) escape being murdered by the woman's husband or (b) assuage his guilt for the other atrocious acts he had committed. (He was reminded of all this because Mikhail's cat was named Nadia, and Nadia was an Iraqi woman whom Sayid had helped escape execution.) So many other shows would end with Sayid pondering these very things while an alt-rock ballad builds in the background, but on Lost, stuff blows up. And that's why we love it.
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Post by Lola m on Mar 9, 2007 13:42:20 GMT -5
Locke used to be one of my favorite characters, the whole deeper meaning thing, but they have really turned him into a drone. push the button, press this, do that, I am sorry but he went from one of my favorites, to one of my least favorites. When I think about it, though, now that the urge to beat his head in with the iced tea pitcher has passed, Locke's decision does make a certain amount of sense. 'Cause the last time he questioned whether entering a particular set of digits was the right thing to do, he decided it wasn't—and we all know how that turned out. So when confronted with the same choice in a different Dharma bunker, I can see where he'd figured it'd be best to pay attention to Dr. Candle's instructions this time around. His mistake was in having too high an opinion of his own intelligence; he never once stopped to wonder how it was he beat the computer at chess—a program ostensibly created by three grandmasters—when Mikhail, who hails from a country where playing chess isn't just for dorky kids in the a/v club, claimed he'd failed to do so even once in several years. **nods** Plus, Locke has always had that obsessive "you can't tell me what to do" thing going.
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Post by KMInfinity on Mar 10, 2007 8:40:44 GMT -5
*I seem to be fated to post in the episode threads late, so I have little to say except to observe that the S’cubie observations are terrific and adds a great level of enjoyment to the show for me.
*An excellent episode. I can’t stress enough how much more I enjoy the show when it isn’t centered around “the Others.” Well, okay Russian dude is an Other, but our guys have him chained up instead of the other way around. Does that make me a bad person? I will seriously hate it if Cuse and Lindelof and company try to twist things so that The Others really are the Good Guys – unless of course they do it brilliantly. ;D
*Was the cat from Sayid’s past the same cat as the one at The Flame station? For a minute there I thought it was another phantom animal visitation.
*The character of Rousseau is a hoot. In some ways she reminds me of Illyria.
*Raising my head in favor of beating Locke’s ass.
*Off to look for Russian translations of that scene.
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 10, 2007 9:39:06 GMT -5
Previouslies
So that's what Locke is going on, "lift up your eyes and look north?" That's kind of tenuous
Patchy!
Teaser
Ping Pong table.
Did the hatch explode or implode?
Bearing 3-0-5. What was the bearing that Michael and Walt took?
Patchy!
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Post by Spaced Out Looney on Mar 10, 2007 9:46:01 GMT -5
Part I
Building nets.
Gawd, Sawyer.
To what's her name . "Who the hell are you?" HEE!!!! #claps#
More games.
No nicknames for a week. Awesome. Go Sun!
A horse. But not the one that Kate saw.
Satellite dish.
Not the radio tower.
Does Rousseau know more than she's saying about Patchy?
So Sayid was a chef. Is there anything the man can't do?
Job offer. This guy seems less than honest.
Mr. Biggles?
A truce? with The Others?
How did this guy not hear the plane crash.
Mikail Something. Last of the Dharma Initiative.
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