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Post by raenstorm on Apr 26, 2005 22:48:16 GMT -5
Even though we talked about Logan being involved and I saw the reveal coming from the minute Veronica found out Carmen's video was taken on the same night as her rape, I still felt my stomach drop when he actually said Logan gave it to him.
I am *sure* that Logan has some responsibility in her rape and I still felt bad for him on the boat.
*sigh*
THIS is why I love this show.
PS - It also helped that he looked damn hot sorta dressed up for his date with her... he was even wearing WHITE for the first time. (Yes, I'm now obsessed with the colors they are wearing thanks to that essay I read...)
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Apr 26, 2005 22:48:49 GMT -5
Well, yes, that's basically what I meant. Altho... why can't we have 'Veronica and Logan, America's Really F-ed Up Teen Sweethearts'?? I'd watch. In fact, we did that already didn't we? With Buffy and Spike...it seemed to work real well for us!
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Post by raenstorm on Apr 26, 2005 22:49:33 GMT -5
In fact, we did that already didn't we? With Buffy and Spike...it seemed to work real well for us! Wait... are you calling Spike a TEENAGER? Patti, Patti, Patti.... ;D
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Post by raenstorm on Apr 26, 2005 22:57:13 GMT -5
Hmmm, ok, sharing this here. There's a discussion on LJ about why they might have made such a big deal in specifying that it wasn't a roofie. I'm passing it along because I think it makes a good point that Logan may have been handing it out for reasons much difft than it was used: www.livejournal.com/community/veronica_mars/239095.html
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Apr 26, 2005 23:02:50 GMT -5
Wait... are you calling Spike a TEENAGER? Patti, Patti, Patti.... ;D well, compared to Angel!
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Post by raenstorm on Apr 26, 2005 23:04:10 GMT -5
LOL! Ok, fine, you've got me there.
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Post by raenstorm on Apr 26, 2005 23:05:14 GMT -5
*sigh*
I can't believe I have to wait a whole week.
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Apr 26, 2005 23:06:00 GMT -5
Hmmm, ok, sharing this here. There's a discussion on LJ about why they might have made such a big deal in specifying that it wasn't a roofie. I'm passing it along because I think it makes a good point that Logan may have been handing it out for reasons much difft than it was used: www.livejournal.com/community/veronica_mars/239095.htmlone of the posters there compared it to ecstasy. Wasn't that the bait used to hook blackmail guy tonight? Could that be a clue for us?
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Post by Patti - S'cubie Cutie on Apr 26, 2005 23:06:43 GMT -5
*sigh* I can't believe I have to wait a whole week. think how you'll feel in two weeks.
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Post by raenstorm on Apr 26, 2005 23:09:52 GMT -5
one of the posters there compared it to ecstasy. Wasn't that the bait used to hook blackmail guy tonight? Could that be a clue for us? Possibly? Hell, could mean that Duncan was the one who gave it to Logan? What was it that Troy was selling? I'm guessing Troy could hook Duncan up... who the heck knows. I need to write these things down to keep track of it all.
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Post by raenstorm on Apr 26, 2005 23:11:37 GMT -5
think how you'll feel in two weeks. Yeah but... they'll have solved the mystery and the rape by then (well, I HOPE anyway). I just want some answers finally and mostly because I continue to feel like it's all right there in front of my face and I'm just not seeing it. It's like those damn optical illusion posters I never could see either.
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Post by Rob on Apr 26, 2005 23:13:33 GMT -5
Oh, they actually said Dec 3 on the ep tonite? I could have sworn it was December 7, because "a date which will live in infamy" went flashing through my head as I watched.
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Post by Rob on Apr 26, 2005 23:20:37 GMT -5
Possibly? Hell, could mean that Duncan was the one who gave it to Logan? What was it that Troy was selling? I'm guessing Troy could hook Duncan up... who the heck knows. I need to write these things down to keep track of it all. Which would lend credence to the Troy speculations I shared a couple of weeks ago. I'd like to think Logan didn't directly provide the GHB to whomever raped Veronica (I'm convinced it wasn't Logan who actually committed the act), but the simple fact that he would do such a thing - with anyone - is more than enough reason for Veronica to pull away for a good long while...and frankly, that's as it should be. Of course, Jerk Of The Week (don't care to remember his name) might well have been lying...but what reason would he have? Surely he has no knowledge of Veronica and Logan's recent dalliances.
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 26, 2005 23:24:12 GMT -5
Finally saw ep, am too tired to catch up on comments.
It was kind of disappointing as far as providing any "reveals" went. I was expecting a little more, since there are only two eps left, I think.
We got the reveal that Logan brought GHB to the party, but that was something we discussed here that made a lot of sense - so no real surprise. It puts the necessary dramatic monkey-wrench in the Logan-Veronica hook-up, while really implicating Logan only in being an asshole who was acting out, and trying to play the big man at a party, bringing the drugs. GHB is a general party drug, isn't it? Not necessarily a rape drug, so we're not pinning "intent to rape" on him.
It was extremely stupid and irresponsible of Logan, and we were set up for that with Aaron reminding Veronica of how "difficult" he had become after Lilly's death.
Logan's going to find out that his stupidity ended up getting Veronica raped, and he's going to feel like crap, and hate himself as much as Veronica must hate him right now, and then they'll be all kinds of angst and what not.
I think because of last week's thrill ride, and because there are so few eps left, I was expecting a lot more in the way of new info and reveals on the rape and murder. We got close to zero, along with a ho-hum storyline about Carmen and Tad.
So mostly, I was bored and disappointed. Not that the ep wasn't good - I really enjoyed Veronica in the car with Aaron, for example - but I had much higher hopes. So it was a let down.
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Post by Vlad unlogged on Apr 26, 2005 23:37:29 GMT -5
Actually, that date messes up the timeline a bit - may be a continuity screw up? She said Dec 3. Lilly was killed in October... Lianne didn't leave until February. AND, I thought Keith was still sheriff in early December but, if that date is correct, that means he was relieved of his position in late Nov rather than December. It was Dec. 7th... I caught this because it's Pearl Harbor Day and also my best friends parent's wedding aniversary. And yeah, I remember my best friends parent's wedding aniversary. I have this thing about remembering dates. Names.. not so good... dates... once htey are there, they are there. Vlad
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