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Post by Lola m on Feb 9, 2006 8:29:32 GMT -5
Ooohh! Who's the clever lad then? Um. I mean, depending on which bitch you are referring to. ;D Very cute. Acutely cute and cunning.  Loved that line! I really loved all the scenes between Keith and Jackie's dad. Such a wonderful mix of hero worship and "just two guys hanging out" casualness and smart cynical detective and hurt fan and embarassed athlete and . . . Well. Just lots of nuances there. Nothing is what is seems at all! ;D |
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Post by Lola m on Feb 9, 2006 8:32:40 GMT -5
Huh.. Great. "He'd say it's weak" She's got balls. **nods** 'Course, then she got them all thrown thrown at her.  Wallace totally rocks like a rocking thing! Oh, I totally didn't catch that! But I bet you're right. Oh, clever clever again. Yup. |
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Post by Lola m on Feb 9, 2006 8:33:39 GMT -5
Serious!! But is it any surprise? 'Cuz ya gotta love Eli, I mean, really!  I wonder what he'll look like with hair - since it looks like he's growing it out. And nice ride he has - Veronica's color - green. I didn't notice that - but you're right! Well, that fits right in with the nice sparkage moment between them. ;D |
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Post by Lola m on Feb 9, 2006 8:35:21 GMT -5
My first thought when she went into the bathroom with the screwdriver - was that she was going to scrape off the stall some derogatory remark that was written there. No. Seriously. That was my first thought. I like Jackie. She's got moxie. I also like Wallace and his date - and loved how he threw the ball over the dunking booth and mocked the crowd. Wallace rules! I  Wallace. What a good egg he is. I loved how he helped her out, even though he was with the new girlfriend. And then, the way he turns to the crowd and just snarks right at them with a smile. Love love love Wallace. |
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Post by Lola m on Feb 9, 2006 8:37:08 GMT -5
I really hope most of the bozos that run UPN get run out on a rail when they merge with the WB. How can you possibly screw up something as important as a SWEEPS MONTH PREVIEW?! Seriously, stupid shit like that can cost rating points. me about it!! |
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Post by Lola m on Feb 9, 2006 8:40:24 GMT -5
Huh. It being thumper is too pat. I think it's the ol' bitch, still. License plate numbers on the paddle. Trophy? <SNIP> "Is there anything you don't know?" <SNIP> *Sigh* Feet of clay. Taking the case anyways. "You're Terrence Cook. You wouldn't kill a busfull of kids. I still believe that" Man, that was... moving. Heh.. Eli. Oh, SO freakin' cool... Gotta respect his skills. "McQueen or Brosnan?" Heh.. her agenda matched his!! Was that crown over his "Familia" tattoo last week? Heh.. "Thomas Crown affair"" And huh. Got a repeat of this week's episode in the preview for next week's. Quoting myself because I have pretensions of being cool.  Allrightie: when Cook asked Keith if "there was anything he didn't know", I had a very "Sid Halley" moment... and I was moved very much by Keith taking the case: by the fact that he was saying that he still saw goodness in his hero, despite the clay feet: that even if he was not a complete innocent, he is innocent of this crime. Regarding the paddle/coup stick: Was it data that the gang needed to keep around, or was it simply counting coup on stolen cars? Was that Eli's, planted in Thumper's locker to implicate him in the thefts of those cars? Or was Thumper doing the coup-counting? That was a LOT of cars. I suppose we will see as time goes on.... These are very good questions! I'm thinking (hoping) it is really Thumper's. Could just be counting, but either way, I'm hoping it's something that sheds light on Felix's death or Curly. MaCassidy is the cutest thing since sliced bread! Um. If you happen to think sliced bread is cute, I mean. |
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Post by Matthew on Feb 9, 2006 8:53:41 GMT -5
Ooohh! Who's the clever lad then? Um. I mean, depending on which bitch you are referring to. ;D Very cute. Acutely cute and cunning. Loved that line! I really loved all the scenes between Keith and Jackie's dad. Such a wonderful mix of hero worship and "just two guys hanging out" casualness and smart cynical detective and hurt fan and embarassed athlete and . . . Well. Just lots of nuances there. Nothing is what is seems at all! ;D Mrs. Hauser was the bitch I spoke of... I was totally surprised by the double-teaming, though. ;D |
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 9, 2006 8:53:45 GMT -5
Good question! And insight! ;D I vote for set up. It explains why Logan gave that particular 50 to Veronica. And, his hanging around to see the fall out. And see how they faked out even those of us that guessed it was a set up! Logan not in on it, for once! ;D He didn't have anything to do with the cash, he didn't help set Dick up, he was just there enjoying the fair and meeting a girl. That's too perfect!. Well. That's weird. The did the "scenes from next week" only they were for this episode? WTF? I'm not so sure Logan didn't know who Hannah was before he put the moves on her, and that this wasn't a deliberate move on his part to try to learn more about his accuser. |
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 9, 2006 8:56:29 GMT -5
That 'ship' comment had me wondering from the beginning - plus, she was just so obviously nasty! So, Logan had an ulterior motive for chatting up Hannah? Has something to do with her dad? I'm kind of lost. 'Splainey, please?  Certainly Her dad is Dr. Griffiths (sp?) - the Fitzpatricks' doctor who pretended to be the witness who saw Logan on the bridge. Oh - I'm kinda assuming it's her dad. She just calls him "her ride" so maybe he's not actually her Dad? Whoever he is, he's obviously related to her (in the sense that Logan can use her as leverage) because Logan gave him a knowing look as he helped Hannah into the car. Brainshare! My thoughts exactly! It also made me wonder about that part where he wanted to take her to get a slushy (didn't he? I didn't tape it and can't remember for sure). |
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 9, 2006 8:58:00 GMT -5
Her Dad's the plastic surgeon...Dr. Griffiths. Ahhhh! I didn't recognise him! Perfect! Logan was workin' it all night, had his own agenda. ;D Logan certainly is good at being charming with girls to get what he wants. |
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 9, 2006 8:58:57 GMT -5
Serious!! But is it any surprise? 'Cuz ya gotta love Eli, I mean, really! I wonder what he'll look like with hair - since it looks like he's growing it out. And nice ride he has - Veronica's color - green. I thought they took hair off Logan's head, and put it on Weevil's. They both looked cute, though. |
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Post by SpringSummers on Feb 9, 2006 8:59:56 GMT -5
The bitch did it. "Lurking? You mean standing while black?" Who IS that bitch? And they're right, the haircut is horrible. Hee! Flirty asshole Logan is cute. That was so cute as to be nauseating!! "She's the one not shaped like a metal cash box" "The famous guy went to jail in the end of that one?" "Sherrif Ensley"? Missed a ref. "That's 'cause it is!" Mac is so cute. Huh. Would Jackie be that effing stupid?guess so. But nothing is as it seems... My first thought when she went into the bathroom with the screwdriver - was that she was going to scrape off the stall some derogatory remark that was written there. No. Seriously. That was my first thought. I like Jackie. She's got moxie. I also like Wallace and his date - and loved how he threw the ball over the dunking booth and mocked the crowd. Wallace rules! I like Jackie, too. She's got her issues, but I like her overall. And Wallace does rule! |
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Post by raenstorm on Feb 9, 2006 9:01:56 GMT -5
Certainly Her dad is Dr. Griffiths (sp?) - the Fitzpatricks' doctor who pretended to be the witness who saw Logan on the bridge. Oh - I'm kinda assuming it's her dad. She just calls him "her ride" so maybe he's not actually her Dad? Whoever he is, he's obviously related to her (in the sense that Logan can use her as leverage) because Logan gave him a knowing look as he helped Hannah into the car. Brainshare! My thoughts exactly! It also made me wonder about that part where he wanted to take her to get a slushy (didn't he? I didn't tape it and can't remember for sure). Yeah, he told her Dick was working the slushie machine and she should go see him... something about he's good with royalty? I can't remember the exact quote right now but it was weird. I can't figure out what that was about. I doubt Dick is in on his plan but what why would he encourage her to go see him? Just getting her by himself? Personally, if I was trying to win her over, I'd keep her away from Dick as long as possible. ETA: Oh, I can't remember the order of the comments there. I was thinking that maybe he used the Dick thing to set up calling her "Princess" but I think he did that part first and then told her to go visit Dick. |
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Post by Michelle on Feb 9, 2006 10:21:04 GMT -5
Yeah, he told her Dick was working the slushie machine and she should go see him... something about he's good with royalty? I can't remember the exact quote right now but it was weird. I can't figure out what that was about. I doubt Dick is in on his plan but what why would he encourage her to go see him? Just getting her by himself? Personally, if I was trying to win her over, I'd keep her away from Dick as long as possible. ETA: Oh, I can't remember the order of the comments there. I was thinking that maybe he used the Dick thing to set up calling her "Princess" but I think he did that part first and then told her to go visit Dick. Yes, I thought it was strange that he mentioned "my friend Dick" too. Why would Logan want her to meet him? As usual, I'm going to have to watch the episode again before I can completely absorb everything that happened, but a couple things occurred to me when I watched last night. I don't like Logan's hair that short, but it does make him look younger. And that is a good thing, considering Hannah appears to be about twelve years old. She's cute as a button, she is. Logan is obviously using her to get to her father, Dr. Griffiths, and it will be interesting to see how that plays out. One of two things will most likely happen: 1) Logan will start to develop real feelings for her, or 2) he'll dump her as soon as he outs her father as a perjurer. Frankly, I don't know if I like either choice! Weevil is starting to transform himself out of his gang member persona, into...what? Can't wait to find out. I like that he is growing his hair out. And his niece Ophelia is so cute! Are Veronica and Weevil going to hook up? How will Keith feel about that, I wonder? And speaking of Keith--he is a better person than I (better person than me? I? See, I told you I wasn't a grammar nazi!) Keith had to confront Terrence twice about secrets he was keeping. First, he showed him the picture of Cook with Ms. Dumas, and secondly, played the audio of his convo with Sheriff Lamb about gambling. Both of those secrets seems to further implicate Cook in some way, so why would Keith be willing to take his case? Maybe Keith is right, and Cook wouldn't kill a bunch of kids, but that doesn't mean he's completely innocent. I do like Cook though, I don't get a creepy vibe like I do from Woody. I feel like we, the viewers, are being manipulated a bit into liking Jackie. Would kids at the school really be that cruel to Jackie because her father was accused of playing a part in the bus crash? Does Logan get the same treatment? His father murdered one of their class mates (Lilly), and is accused of killing one (Felix) himself and yet Logan seems just as popular as before with his fellow 09-ers. But Rob Thomas wants us to sympathize with Jackie, so she gets taunted by Dick, has rude things written about her in a bathroom stall, gets dunked in the dunk tank a million times, and accused of theft by Madison and the bitchy Ms. Hauser. I actually do like Jackie now more because of this episode, but I'm fully aware that I'm being manipulated into feeling that way. Whatever. |
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Post by Karen on Feb 9, 2006 10:37:16 GMT -5
Yeah, he told her Dick was working the slushie machine and she should go see him... something about he's good with royalty? I can't remember the exact quote right now but it was weird. I can't figure out what that was about. I doubt Dick is in on his plan but what why would he encourage her to go see him? Just getting her by himself? Personally, if I was trying to win her over, I'd keep her away from Dick as long as possible. ETA: Oh, I can't remember the order of the comments there. I was thinking that maybe he used the Dick thing to set up calling her "Princess" but I think he did that part first and then told her to go visit Dick. Yes, I thought it was strange that he mentioned "my friend Dick" too. Why would Logan want her to meet him? As usual, I'm going to have to watch the episode again before I can completely absorb everything that happened, but a couple things occurred to me when I watched last night. I don't like Logan's hair that short, but it does make him look younger. And that is a good thing, considering Hannah appears to be about twelve years old. She's cute as a button, she is. Logan is obviously using her to get to her father, Dr. Griffiths, and it will be interesting to see how that plays out. One of two things will most likely happen: 1) Logan will start to develop real feelings for her, or 2) he'll dump her as soon as he outs her father as a perjurer. Frankly, I don't know if I like either choice! Weevil is starting to transform himself out of his gang member persona, into...what? Can't wait to find out. I like that he is growing his hair out. And his niece Ophelia is so cute! Are Veronica and Weevil going to hook up? How will Keith feel about that, I wonder? And speaking of Keith--he is a better person than I (better person than me? I? See, I told you I wasn't a grammar nazi!) Keith had to confront Terrence twice about secrets he was keeping. First, he showed him the picture of Cook with Ms. Dumas, and secondly, played the audio of his convo with Sheriff Lamb about gambling. Both of those secrets seems to further implicate Cook in some way, so why would Keith be willing to take his case? Maybe Keith is right, and Cook wouldn't kill a bunch of kids, but that doesn't mean he's completely innocent. I do like Cook though, I don't get a creepy vibe like I do from Woody. I feel like we, the viewers, are being manipulated a bit into liking Jackie. Would kids at the school really be that cruel to Jackie because her father was accused of playing a part in the bus crash? Does Logan get the same treatment? His father murdered one of their class mates (Lilly), and is accused of killing one (Felix) himself and yet Logan seems just as popular as before with his fellow 09-ers. But Rob Thomas wants us to sympathize with Jackie, so she gets taunted by Dick, has rude things written about her in a bathroom stall, gets dunked in the dunk tank a million times, and accused of theft by Madison and the bitchy Ms. Hauser. I actually do like Jackie now more because of this episode, but I'm fully aware that I'm being manipulated into feeling that way. Whatever. Hey Fotada! Fellow non-grammar Nazi! Keith's willingness to help Mr. Cook puzzles me, too. Can it really be all about 'hero-worship', or is Keith taking the case to stay close to him so that he can dig out even more of his secrets? I think he must have other things he isn't telling Keith. Rob T could be manipulating us to feel sympathy for Jackie, or he could be showing us once again, the double standard in Neptune. Veronica also got ostracized when her father was accused last season (as Jackie pointed out), so I think it's more likely to be the case that he's showing us that the rich kids (Logan) get a pass in Neptune, and the poor kids (or kids of color) don't. To answer your question - "Would kids really be that cruel?" Oh, yeah - they'd follow the lead of the major players of their group. Sheep. That's what was so cool about Wallace stepping up and taunting the crowd. He isn't a sheep. |
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