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Post by KMInfinity on Apr 15, 2006 12:28:28 GMT -5
I'm wondering about this. Didn't the girl Veronica was in competition with end up NOT being able to postpone her Lit test because the school was no longer honoring the doctor's "stress" diagnosis? (thanks to her dad! yay!) So if she failed that test, is Veronica back in the scholarship running?
Also, as far as the Dick/Beaver insurance policy...any chance Kendall took it out without their dad's knowledge?
Watching a second time, still amazed at the density of the layering with the clues, red herrings, character tidbits, and all.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 15, 2006 21:07:36 GMT -5
I'm wondering about this. Didn't the girl Veronica was in competition with end up NOT being able to postpone her Lit test because the school was no longer honoring the doctor's "stress" diagnosis? (thanks to her dad! yay!) So if she failed that test, is Veronica back in the scholarship running? Also, as far as the Dick/Beaver insurance policy...any chance Kendall took it out without their dad's knowledge? Watching a second time, still amazed at the density of the layering with the clues, red herrings, character tidbits, and all. I think we don't have the definitive answer on the scholarship. I think they might be still neck and neck - but the other girl certainly had a set-back by them stopping the scam she was using.
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Post by LadyDi on Apr 17, 2006 0:34:45 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this ep. Loved the bonding btwn Wallace and Logan. Hope V. comes to realize how lucky she is to have them both on her side. Great thing about this show overall: diversity. They make it look effortless. Neptune really feels like a SoCal town to me. As for Logan being friends with Dick, who could be a more undemanding friend? Dick is totally self-absorbed, and unlikely to want any seriousness harshing his buzz.
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 17, 2006 21:51:06 GMT -5
S’cubies! Wake up, sleepyhead! It’s time to read a new Veronica Mars review.[/size] Check it out – it’s dreamy!
I AM GOD: The fickle finger of fate – by Spring Summers (moi)
Go to our homepage at www.soulfulspike.com, or more directly access the review by clicking on the picture, below, of Willow in Restless, dreaming that she’s standing in front of the class.
Once you’ve finished reading, if you’re still awake (just don’t read it aloud in a fake English accent and you should be OK), stop by the VM ep2.18 thread, to give me any feedback you might have.Enjoy!
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Post by Pixi on Apr 18, 2006 7:39:16 GMT -5
The Fickle finger of fate - hee, hee. Why is this giving me laugh-in flashbacks? Very nice analogy. And good point about how both the dreams and flashbacks were gauzy. I loved the use of color in this episode. Beautiful cinematography. Hee - yes, yes let him finish. The more hot macking the better. After all we, the viewers had to endure Duncan and Kendall. Not to mention Hannah. Let us enjoy the macking while we can. I think it's impossible for a Buffy fan to watch an episode featuring an egg without expecting something slithery to come peaking out. But aside from that - excellent commentary on parents/eggs and tying it into the bus crash. Logan and Wallace were just too, too cute. Logan stopping Wallace at 4 expressos, similar to the way he stopped Duncan in Echolls Family Christmas - Wallace needs to be Logan's new BFF. I loved their chemistry. (of course Jason pretty much has chemistry with everyone including random set pieces and walkons but still). The little drum roll before the drop, Wallace seeing past Logan's BS immediately - I loved them together. Just loving the wild ride to the end. Loving it. And great analysis as always. I'm not going to tempt fate and state that I too am God. At this point - I'm willing to concede godhood to my raging appliances with the hope they will play nice for the forseeable future.
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 18, 2006 7:49:09 GMT -5
The Fickle finger of fate - hee, hee. Why is this giving me laugh-in flashbacks? There were lots of "finger related" images/mentions in the ep. I mentioned Dick's comment to Veronica, and the finger in the burger, but we saw Logan lick his finger (sampling his dinner, in front of Wallace), and Dick stick his finger in Logan's face ("I don't know how I'm gonna quit you.") The ep seemed to be all about "God," "Fate" - i.e., what the "moving finger writes" so that's the connection I made to the "finger-stuff," but who knows. Yes - I especially liked the scene where Veronica and Cervando are in the clouds. But Meg and Veronica in the water is good too (More high/low images). Yes - Logan & Veronica are by far the sizzliest couple we've seen on the show to date. I did think of Bad Eggs also - though I thought more of Restless. It was interesting how Wallace's comment about giving Logan some slack gave Veronica a bit of a start. It was a hopeful LoVe moment. Veronica puts a lot of stock in Wallace's opinion, as well she should. As long as Logan is tied to someone like Dick, it's much easier for Veronica to dismiss him. Thanks for the feedback, Pixi. #rofl1# Yes, my appliances have taken control of the household several times.
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Post by Michelle on Apr 18, 2006 9:26:51 GMT -5
Good one! Of course, I noticed that Veronica wasn’t disputing the hotness of said make-out session.
Lucky gave off a seriously creepy vibe. Why would Meg’s parents want her to be with him? I love the point you made about his name—that people have very little control over their fate. It’s all a matter of perspective whether you view yourself as lucky or not. It’s all a matter of deciding how to deal with the cards life handed you.
One could also stretch a little and finger (heh) Cassidy for this one, too. He is always forced to make up for Dick’s mistakes, and maybe Big Dick told Cassidy to take care of the Bettina problem, or Bettina herself came to Cassidy with threats when Dick wouldn’t come through.
Am I the only one who loved the actress they chose to play Natalie, Bettina’s sister? The strut to her car, the gaudy gold jewelry, the bad dye job, all of it. I loved the way she checked her eye makeup while she talked to Veronica, and her sarcastic, “No, it’s my roller skate.” Heeeee. She’s my new favorite cameo.
DeMoss or Dumass? I choose the latter. Watch this commercial (one of my all-time favorites) for my reason why:
I can’t either, but I wouldn’t doubt there’s someone in the mix who dabbles in cross dressing. Cassidy often looks like he’s wearing eyeliner and lip gloss, Dick has very pretty blond hair, and Woody? Well, I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out that Woody wears a garter belt underneath his business suit. Someone is in the closet, that’s for sure.
Great review, Spring. You always make me see things in a way I’ve never considered before. It’s like you're God, or something.
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Post by Jan on Apr 18, 2006 9:54:50 GMT -5
I loved your philosophical wanderings through the ideas of God, how we're all God in our dreams and memories, how only the present and future is not in our control--not in the sense, of course, that our attitudes and actions don't contribute, but in the sense that "stuff happens," good and bad, and we really aren't calling the shots. As you said (I think), the sense of controlling the future is illusory. I am sinfully envious of your ability to analyze and write your analysis. Sinfully.
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 18, 2006 11:23:27 GMT -5
Good one! Of course, I noticed that Veronica wasn’t disputing the hotness of said make-out session. Lucky gave off a seriously creepy vibe. Why would Meg’s parents want her to be with him? I love the point you made about his name—that people have very little control over their fate. It’s all a matter of perspective whether you view yourself as lucky or not. It’s all a matter of deciding how to deal with the cards life handed you. Yes - Lucky creepy, just as Meg said. It seems that there must be some purpose in introducing such a character . . . I suppose it could be a total red herring. I think of Cassidy as basically an innocent victim of whatever is going on here. Just a guess - it's the vibe I get from him. She was great. That outfit, that attitude . . . Cassidy could pull off cross dressing - he has a pretty, delicate kind of face - but . . . well, I just can't imagine it. Woody - I can imagine him as having this fetish and hiding it. He just exudes "I'm hiding something" vibes. Speaking of closets, we took a look inside the Principal's closet in this episode, and it made me wonder if we were meant to think about the Principal's closet. But the inside of the closet didn't seem to be hiding anything too terrible. Also, I like the Principal and would be quite disappointed if he is any kind of bad guy. Thanks for the feedback, Fotada. I really appreciate it. As to my Godhood - yes, I share that with Sue. We are the Creators and Absolute Rulers of this thread.
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 18, 2006 11:26:57 GMT -5
I loved your philosophical wanderings through the ideas of God, how we're all God in our dreams and memories, how only the present and future is not in our control--not in the sense, of course, that our attitudes and actions don't contribute, but in the sense that "stuff happens," good and bad, and we really aren't calling the shots. As you said (I think), the sense of controlling the future is illusory. I am sinfully envious of your ability to analyze and write your analysis. Sinfully. Thanks for the feedback, Jan. As to your sinfulness . . . well, I forgive you.
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Post by Lola m on Apr 18, 2006 16:49:51 GMT -5
Woo hoo! Another great review, Spring! Excellent excellent description of how we each create our own versions of our lives – linking it to both the visuals of the episode (dreams and flashbacks filmed in the same style) and the title (we are each, to some extent, our own God). Loved the examples you bring up showing how this episode emphasized who had the creative/Godlike power and when: Veronica’s dream characters taking exception to the way she’s dressed them or talking about what they can’t affect because they are now dead; Logan’s memories being exactly that – his memories; Lucky’s somewhat ironic nickname; and so on. The egg and the bus – this episode was really drawing a comparison between the two, wasn’t it? A relatively small drop from which the little dude can protected by the right amount of cushioning; a longer drop that most eggs don’t survive. An explosion that would kill the driver only or a well-timed explosion that would take out the whole bus. Or was it well timed? Ghostly bus kid tells us someone must have been very close, waiting for the chance to send the bus over the cliff. But that got me thinking. What if the explosion was never intended to be that fatal? Maybe it was actually the wrong time and place for the original intentions? I’m definitely in agreement with everyone who loved the scenes between Wallace and Logan. As several have mentioned, we can really see how valued Wallace’s opinion is by the look on Veronica’s face when he gently suggests Logan be cut some slack. But I also really appreciated your questioning whether or not a friendship with Logan would be in Wallace’s best interest. I read your line about “Veronica is pretty much a handful already” and I was all “heeeeeee!” but also, “true dat”! Brava on looking at the dead to sort through the possible motives and suspects. It’s what Veronica is doing in her own mind as she puzzles this out. It’s what a good homicide detective would tell you to do. Right up there with “follow the money” are the two important questions for any investigator: what do the victims have in common and what was the outcome of the crime/who benefits. My guess is that Lucky helped Logan and Dick sabotage the community pool last summer. You noticed this Fitzpatrick connection too, eh? Like you, I doubt it is hugely significant, but it does seem like these guys just keep cropping up, don’t they? Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Wonderful job again, Spring! Fingers.
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Post by SpringSummers on Apr 18, 2006 18:59:33 GMT -5
Woo hoo! Another great review, Spring! Excellent excellent description of how we each create our own versions of our lives – linking it to both the visuals of the episode (dreams and flashbacks filmed in the same style) and the title (we are each, to some extent, our own God). Loved the examples you bring up showing how this episode emphasized who had the creative/Godlike power and when: Veronica’s dream characters taking exception to the way she’s dressed them or talking about what they can’t affect because they are now dead; Logan’s memories being exactly that – his memories; Lucky’s somewhat ironic nickname; and so on. The egg and the bus – this episode was really drawing a comparison between the two, wasn’t it? A relatively small drop from which the little dude can protected by the right amount of cushioning; a longer drop that most eggs don’t survive. An explosion that would kill the driver only or a well-timed explosion that would take out the whole bus. Or was it well timed? Ghostly bus kid tells us someone must have been very close, waiting for the chance to send the bus over the cliff. But that got me thinking. What if the explosion was never intended to be that fatal? Maybe it was actually the wrong time and place for the original intentions? I’m definitely in agreement with everyone who loved the scenes between Wallace and Logan. As several have mentioned, we can really see how valued Wallace’s opinion is by the look on Veronica’s face when he gently suggests Logan be cut some slack. But I also really appreciated your questioning whether or not a friendship with Logan would be in Wallace’s best interest. I read your line about “Veronica is pretty much a handful already” and I was all “heeeeeee!” but also, “true dat”! Brava on looking at the dead to sort through the possible motives and suspects. It’s what Veronica is doing in her own mind as she puzzles this out. It’s what a good homicide detective would tell you to do. Right up there with “follow the money” are the two important questions for any investigator: what do the victims have in common and what was the outcome of the crime/who benefits. My guess is that Lucky helped Logan and Dick sabotage the community pool last summer. You noticed this Fitzpatrick connection too, eh? Like you, I doubt it is hugely significant, but it does seem like these guys just keep cropping up, don’t they? Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Wonderful job again, Spring! Fingers. Interesting thoughts, Lola - I did think the falling eggs and the falling students were being parallelled - though I'm not sure what exactly we're being told. It could be pointing at Dick Sr, because after all, it was the eggs "parents" who set them up for the fall. They did try to protect the eggs, but ultimately, they were willing to let the eggs crack, for the benefit they would receive. As always, thanks for the feedback!
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Post by artemis on Apr 18, 2006 19:30:38 GMT -5
great review, spring! like lola, i'm wondering if the bus timing wasn't as good as veronica's dreams would have you believe. i can't wait for tonight's episode! just a half-hour to go!
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Post by LadyDi on Apr 22, 2006 19:21:47 GMT -5
We have had several references not just to sexual preferences, but to gender identity this season. Dick makes out with a cross-dresser, and in this ep, Logan tells Veronica she was “too much man” for their relationship to succeed. But – well, I just can’t buy that any of our men are women, or our women are men. I mean – no way Kendall used to be a man, or Woody used to be a woman, or Jackie is a Jack in drag. I just can’t see it.
Not sure where you were headed with this, if you intended to take it any further.
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Post by Sue on Apr 27, 2006 15:13:13 GMT -5
I loved your philosophical wanderings through the ideas of God, how we're all God in our dreams and memories, how only the present and future is not in our control--not in the sense, of course, that our attitudes and actions don't contribute, but in the sense that "stuff happens," good and bad, and we really aren't calling the shots. As you said (I think), the sense of controlling the future is illusory. I am sinfully envious of your ability to analyze and write your analysis. Sinfully. When I first read this I was just going to quote and say "eetah" but then I decided I would give more detailed feedback. Since then I've decided to just go with eetahing Jan since she so eloquently captures the essence of what I thought (right down to the sinful envy.) Also, tho, given what you have shared about your RL experiences in the past 2 weeks your musing on being God in your own life (as well as stuff you have written in the past about life being made up of both those things thrust upon us by fate/the world/others/accident AND of our reactions to such things are what make us who we are) just seems especially relevant at the moment.
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