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Post by SpringSummers on May 7, 2006 10:26:52 GMT -5
Unless we're presented with 11th hour information re: Duncan's partners, I think the Chlamydia came through Meg. Sadly, there are a few possibilities as to how SHE contracted it... and none of them appear to have been very pleasant. Which leads me to ask once again: has there ever been DNA confirmation of Duncan's parentage of the baby? 'Cause I think I'd remember that. Suppose Meg had a strong suspicion this baby wasn't Duncan's, yet led him to believe that in an effort to save the child from the real father? I'm kind of leaning in this direction too, because it would explain why Duncan never tried to go the paternity test route, which was something a lot of people pointed out after Donut Run. I do think Duncan's the daddy and believed himself to be the daddy . . . but he (very sensibily, IMO) didn't have any faith that a positive paternity test result would guarantee him custody of the baby. BUT - I do think "Duncan got Chlamydia from Meg" is a possibility. It's such an ugly possibility though. Because all signs point to the idea that if Meg had sexual contact with anyone but Duncan, it was not voluntary on her part. And I just don't want to go there.
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Post by Karen on May 7, 2006 11:18:46 GMT -5
I'm kind of leaning in this direction too, because it would explain why Duncan never tried to go the paternity test route, which was something a lot of people pointed out after Donut Run. I do think Duncan's the daddy and believed himself to be the daddy . . . but he (very sensibily, IMO) didn't have any faith that a positive paternity test result would guarantee him custody of the baby. BUT - I do think "Duncan got Chlamydia from Meg" is a possibility. It's such an ugly possibility though. Because all signs point to the idea that if Meg had sexual contact with anyone but Duncan, it was not voluntary on her part. And I just don't want to go there. I forget. Why did Veronica get that test. Was she having symptoms? Because if she wasn't and it was just a routine exam where it was found, I'm thinking that someone doctored her results in order to use them to discredit her on the stand.
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Post by Onjel on May 7, 2006 12:02:43 GMT -5
I do think Duncan's the daddy and believed himself to be the daddy . . . but he (very sensibily, IMO) didn't have any faith that a positive paternity test result would guarantee him custody of the baby. BUT - I do think "Duncan got Chlamydia from Meg" is a possibility. It's such an ugly possibility though. Because all signs point to the idea that if Meg had sexual contact with anyone but Duncan, it was not voluntary on her part. And I just don't want to go there. I forget. Why did Veronica get that test. Was she having symptoms? Because if she wasn't and it was just a routine exam where it was found, I'm thinking that someone doctored her results in order to use them to discredit her on the stand. I'm not sure I'm remembering correctly, by I think Chlamydia is one of those STDs that can go undetected in females due to lack of active symptoms. It's likely then, that if she wasn't experiencing problems, and I have no recollection that she was (somebody else may and thus I stand corrected), that it was discovered durning a routine exam. I'm leaning toward planted info/doctored records myself. All to discredit her. We've seen how far Aaron was willing to go to secure an acquittal, and his money can buy a lot of people off, including medical transcriptionists. Of course, he would have to know that Veronica was going in for a routine exam, which is the single biggest reason to reject the notion that she was set up and was disease-free from the beginning. So, now that the answer is as clear as mud, does anyone else want to reply? ;D
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Post by Michelle on May 7, 2006 12:49:10 GMT -5
Of course, he would have to know that Veronica was going in for a routine exam, which is the single biggest reason to reject the notion that she was set up and was disease-free from the beginning. So, now that the answer is as clear as mud, does anyone else want to reply? ;D I think Veronica really did contract the STD, because like you said, there is really no way Aaron could have known that she was going in for a routine exam. It's a bit different than the drug tests with the fake positive results at the beginning of the season. But the question is, how the heck would Aaron's lawyer know that Veronica contracted the STD? My wild speculation is that Kendall knows she gave it to Duncan, and that Duncan slept with Veronica, and somehow that tidbit of info came up when Kendall visited Aaron in prison. But crap, I just thought of a flaw in that theory: how would Aaron know that Veronica *knew* about the STD unless he also knew that she went in for the exam? When his lawyer questioned her about it on the stand, Veronica could have in all truthfulness denied it, since she didn't have any symptoms. Oy. So now I'm just as confused as before. The only positive outcome I can see from Veronica having to admit in front of God and everybody that she had an STD is that hopefully Logan has now figured out why she ran away from him at the Alterna-Prom. I think that if Veronica had let Logan kiss her that night, things would have definitely progressed beyond that, and Veronica couldn't let that happen.
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Post by raenstorm on May 7, 2006 13:35:04 GMT -5
I forget. Why did Veronica get that test. Was she having symptoms? Because if she wasn't and it was just a routine exam where it was found, I'm thinking that someone doctored her results in order to use them to discredit her on the stand. I'm not sure I'm remembering correctly, by I think Chlamydia is one of those STDs that can go undetected in females due to lack of active symptoms. It's likely then, that if she wasn't experiencing problems, and I have no recollection that she was (somebody else may and thus I stand corrected), that it was discovered durning a routine exam. I'm leaning toward planted info/doctored records myself. All to discredit her. We've seen how far Aaron was willing to go to secure an acquittal, and his money can buy a lot of people off, including medical transcriptionists. Of course, he would have to know that Veronica was going in for a routine exam, which is the single biggest reason to reject the notion that she was set up and was disease-free from the beginning. So, now that the answer is as clear as mud, does anyone else want to reply? ;D You are correct about Chlamydia and the lack of symptoms. Veronica herself says, "I-I know what it is. But there must be a mistake. I don't have any symptoms, I don't feel anything..." So she wasn't experiencing any symptoms, which means it is not why she was at the doctor's office in the first place. Her later conversation with Keith leads me to believe that it was more of a routine checkup than something specific. He asked how it went at her appointment but isn't overly concerned when he asks. Since Veronica is completing paperwork to attend school, I actually think her fake, "Would you believe it's for a college application?" answer to Logan, when she's questioning him aboaut Duncan, is not as fake as assumed by many. Once I was accepted into my University and was getting everything in order for admissions, I had to have a recent physical and up-to-date shots on record. It makes sense that Veronica was just getting everything in order for Stanford and seems to be the least contrived reason for a symptom free Veronica to suddenly have a doctor's appointment. I have to hope that we'll get a more concrete answer about the Chlamydia issue in the finale. There are a lot of reasons to support the idea that Aaron and his laywer had some part in it but I would rather it be true. Reasons to think Aaron and his lawyer could have "bought" those results: - Obvious way to discredit Veronica AND add weight to the idea that she's sexual promiscuous, supporting the idea that she'd come on to Aaron.
- We have two previous examples this season of doctors being suspectible to bribes. #1: Dr. Griffith and his coming forward as the eye witness on the bridge. #2: The nurses aid and doctor who were falsely claiming students had Anxiety Disorders for the right price.
- Given the details and facts Aaron's lawyer knew about the past year, it's obvious that she was being watched very closely so it's quite possible that they knew the minute she had made a doctor's appointment.
- This could just be a fact checking error but Chlamydia results are usually generated from a lab. Either the area infected is swabbed and that swab sent to a lab or a urine test is done. Either way, the fastest results would usually take 24 hours. Veronica appears to be finding out that she has Chlamydia during her first visit, which is unlikely and supports the idea that her doctor was lying to her.
Reasons to think the results were valid: - It would be a very large calculated risk for Aaron and his lawyer to approach Veronica's doctor with a bribe. Unless they specifically knew someone in that doctor's office could be bought, they'd have to worry that the doctor couldn't be bribed and would go to the police - exposing their intentions.
- Beyond claiming that Veronica was coming on to Aaron, every other piece of evidence brought up to discredit her was true. What made things so damnable was that she couldn't deny anything they said. This might indicate that the Chlamydia was just another area where she was getting screwed by the truth.
- No real proof that Duncan does NOT have Chlamydia.
- Also, this doesn't mean much but it seems way too last minute for the way these writers work. By that I mean, if they wanted it to have direct meaning to only the trial, I think they could have had Veronica discover the STD earlier and only now have us suddenly question the validity of it. This way, it feels too convenient. One episode she discovers she has an STD, the next episode it's being used against her. These writers are usually much more elegant in how they weave those details in... Doing it this way means that people who were questioning Duncan are now throwing out that idea in favor of the "oh, it was obviously planted results to help Aaron" and it just feels like an intentional mislead to me.
I left all the Duncan/Meg/Baby stuff off that list because... well we have no proof of any of it. I personally would prefer it be the reason for the Chlamydia. Not because of what it means happpened, because I hate to think of why Meg would end up with an STD when we know she doesn't sleep around, but because I have serious issues with the baby storyline and that would be a way to resolve them for me. If there is some question as to who is the father of the baby, it explains Meg asking VERONICA to keep the baby safe rather than Duncan, it explains why Duncan would not trust that he'd get custody of the baby, and it could potentially explain the weird link we have between the Mr. Manning and Lucky this late in the season (bailing him out of jail). I can see things in that storyline, purposely vague lines and moments in the text, that could support it but I'm aware that I want to see those things so I'm not the best judge. The truth is that we do NOT have a DNA test to prove that Duncan is the father. We don't even have Meg ever acknowledging that he's the father, just that her parent's think that. We have a mysterious letter from Meg's Aunt Chris that only Duncan has read and he never revealed what it actually says. We have the use of Chlamydia of all STDs. One because it is the "silent" STD making it possible to believe Veronica could have had it for a while and not seen symptoms. Two because it's the one STD that pregnant women get tested for because of how it can be passed on to the baby during birth (though, if Meg did have it, she shouldn't have passed it on because it's likely they performed a C-Section once the blood clot killed her and Chlamydia is passed on during vaginal births). In other words, there's an "easy" way Veronica can discover whether or not Meg had Chlamydia. It seems like Chlamydia was a very specific choice of an STD for Veronica and those things make me a little suspiscious of the easy conclusion that Aaron paid to have her test results doctored. Which isn't to say that he didn't, just that there seem to be reasons to doubt it and make it impossible for me to reach a conclusion. That's why I hope we get an answer either way this Tuesday.
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Post by Michelle on May 7, 2006 13:59:35 GMT -5
The only positive outcome I can see from Veronica having to admit in front of God and everybody that she had an STD is that hopefully Logan has now figured out why she ran away from him at the Alterna-Prom. I think that if Veronica had let Logan kiss her that night, things would have definitely progressed beyond that, and Veronica couldn't let that happen. OK, after having read Rae's nicely organized lists, I am now coming down on the side of Aaron paying off the doctor. But if true, this makes the ending of Look Who's Stalking all that much more heart-breaking. If Veronica hadn't thought she had chlamydia, I firmly believe she would have responded to Logan's overtures. But she did think it, thus putting into motion the sad chain of events. This makes me hate Aaron even more than I did before, and I didn't think that was possible.
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Post by SpringSummers on May 7, 2006 14:44:12 GMT -5
I don't buy the "Aaron paid for a fake test" theory, basically for the reasons Rae lists. He found out about it somehow, and exploited it. As to how he found out - I can imagine a smart lawyer wanting to see Veronica's medical records to look for any support he could find (abortion, STD . . .) - and in a small town like that, finding a way of getting a peek at them.
IF Kendall had Chlamydia and slept with Duncan, then that fits, as far as her passing that info on to Aaron, and Aaron asking his lawyer to check into whether or not Veronica had it. If he got someone (like someone who works in the doc's office, or someone who would be willing to break into the doc's office) to check Veronica's records, he would not only know for certain that she had it, but he would also know that she KNEW she had it. And he needs both pieces of info.
I find it kind of hard - but not impossible - to believe Duncan slept with Kendall.
I think Duncan is the daddy, because I just can't see a storyline that includes Duncan having run off with a baby that isn't his.
I guess no one is going for my theory that Jackie is involved in the Chlamydia thing somehow. But I just can't figure out why, in the same ep we find out Veronica has Chlamydia, we hear Jackie react to her father, telling her to be cautious with Wallace, by saying that she "learned about the birds and the bees the hard way, remember?" It just bugs me.
FOTADA! I love your Cliff quote in the sig line. I loved that scene.
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Post by Michelle on May 7, 2006 14:58:25 GMT -5
I don't buy the "Aaron paid for a fake test" theory, basically for the reasons Rae lists. He found out about it somehow, and exploited it. As to how he found out - I can imagine a smart lawyer wanting to see Veronica's medical records to look for any support he could find (abortion, STD . . .) - and in a small town like that, finding a way of getting a peek at them. IF Kendall had Chlamydia and slept with Duncan, then that fits, as far as her passing that info on to Aaron, and Aaron asking his lawyer to check into whether or not Veronica had it. If he got someone (like someone who works in the doc's office, or someone who would be willing to break into the doc's office) to check Veronica's records, he would not only know for certain that she had it, but he would also know that she KNEW she had it. And he needs both pieces of info. I find it kind of hard - but not impossible - to believe Duncan slept with Kendall. I think Duncan is the daddy, because I just can't see a storyline that includes Duncan having run off with a baby that isn't his. I guess no one is going for my theory that Jackie is involved in the Chlamydia thing somehow. But I just can't figure out why, in the same ep we find out Veronica has Chlamydia, we hear Jackie react to her father, telling her to be cautious with Wallace, by saying that she "learned about the birds and the bees the hard way, remember?" It just bugs me. FOTADA! I love your Cliff quote in the sig line. I loved that scene. Yes, I'm posting again. What? Thanks Spring, I have so much Cliff love! I need to find an icon of him somewhere. Isn't it hilarious that we came to opposite conclusions after reading Rae's post? That's what makes this show in equal parts both fascinating and frustrating, I guess! The Jackie theory is interesting...are you suggesting that Jackie slept with Duncan? Why would that be easier to accept than if he slept with Kendall?
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Post by SpringSummers on May 7, 2006 15:10:19 GMT -5
I don't buy the "Aaron paid for a fake test" theory, basically for the reasons Rae lists. He found out about it somehow, and exploited it. As to how he found out - I can imagine a smart lawyer wanting to see Veronica's medical records to look for any support he could find (abortion, STD . . .) - and in a small town like that, finding a way of getting a peek at them. IF Kendall had Chlamydia and slept with Duncan, then that fits, as far as her passing that info on to Aaron, and Aaron asking his lawyer to check into whether or not Veronica had it. If he got someone (like someone who works in the doc's office, or someone who would be willing to break into the doc's office) to check Veronica's records, he would not only know for certain that she had it, but he would also know that she KNEW she had it. And he needs both pieces of info. I find it kind of hard - but not impossible - to believe Duncan slept with Kendall. I think Duncan is the daddy, because I just can't see a storyline that includes Duncan having run off with a baby that isn't his. I guess no one is going for my theory that Jackie is involved in the Chlamydia thing somehow. But I just can't figure out why, in the same ep we find out Veronica has Chlamydia, we hear Jackie react to her father, telling her to be cautious with Wallace, by saying that she "learned about the birds and the bees the hard way, remember?" It just bugs me. FOTADA! I love your Cliff quote in the sig line. I loved that scene. Yes, I'm posting again. What? Thanks Spring, I have so much Cliff love! I need to find an icon of him somewhere. Isn't it hilarious that we came to opposite conclusions after reading Rae's post? That's what makes this show in equal parts both fascinating and frustrating, I guess! The Jackie theory is interesting...are you suggesting that Jackie slept with Duncan? Why would that be easier to accept than if he slept with Kendall? No - I'm not really suggesting Jackie slept with Duncan. I mean - that seems so far out to me. Not impossible, but far out. It just seems . . . connected - as if Jackie is on the Chlamydia-transmission chain somewhere. I don't really have a theory on this, just this feeling that Jackie's statement is connected to Veronica's Chlamydia. I mean - why did Jackie say that out-of-the-blue statement to her dad? What was the purpose of that? In the same ep that we learn Veronica has an STD, we hear Jackie reassure her dad that she won't be careless about sex, because she "learned the hard way." What's up with that? It just bugs me, I say! It bugs me.
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Post by raenstorm on May 7, 2006 15:16:20 GMT -5
I don't buy the "Aaron paid for a fake test" theory, basically for the reasons Rae lists. He found out about it somehow, and exploited it. As to how he found out - I can imagine a smart lawyer wanting to see Veronica's medical records to look for any support he could find (abortion, STD . . .) - and in a small town like that, finding a way of getting a peek at them. IF Kendall had Chlamydia and slept with Duncan, then that fits, as far as her passing that info on to Aaron, and Aaron asking his lawyer to check into whether or not Veronica had it. If he got someone (like someone who works in the doc's office, or someone who would be willing to break into the doc's office) to check Veronica's records, he would not only know for certain that she had it, but he would also know that she KNEW she had it. And he needs both pieces of info. I find it kind of hard - but not impossible - to believe Duncan slept with Kendall. I think Duncan is the daddy, because I just can't see a storyline that includes Duncan having run off with a baby that isn't his. I guess no one is going for my theory that Jackie is involved in the Chlamydia thing somehow. But I just can't figure out why, in the same ep we find out Veronica has Chlamydia, we hear Jackie react to her father, telling her to be cautious with Wallace, by saying that she "learned about the birds and the bees the hard way, remember?" It just bugs me. FOTADA! I love your Cliff quote in the sig line. I loved that scene. I don't necessarily doubt that Duncan is the daddy, I doubt that he was 100% certain of that fact. If he had any doubts, then it explains why he would not trust any kind of attempt to get custody. It would be interesting if Duncan had gotten tested for STD, found out he had Chlamydia and that's the reason he wasn't sure about being the father. Also, if Celeste and/or Jake knew about that, it'd give them a much better reason not to want to fight for custody of the child. That was always a sticking point for me because Celeste is very much about public appearance and I think she'd have a problem with being perceived as someone who didn't want her grandchild but if she even suspected it might not be hers, she'd use that to her full advantage. Hee. Ok, sorry, I got off on a tangent. I really just wanted to comment on your Kendall/Jackie stuff. I continue to believe that Duncan did not sleep with Kendall. And it's all because of things that Rob Thomas has had to say in interviews about the subject. It doesn't mean he wasn't covering in those interviews or that he wouldn't retcon the story but he was so adament about the issue that I just won't believe it until we're told it happened on screen. Also? It squicks me out. Because we have a creepy Big Dick - Kendall - Logan - Duncan - Veronica sexual chain going on that I just don't like picturing. Of course, I don't know why it bugs me because I'm sure the chain that results from it being Meg is probably tens time as creepy. Possibly tracing back to Woody Goodman himself. Ick. So, yeah, count me in with the group who is against Kendall being the connection. As for Jackie, well I don't necessarily have a problem with her being the connection but I fail to see how? She's not sexually tied to anyone that Veronica is sexually tied to... Granted, there could be a tie that we don't know of but what would it be? Duncan? If I believe that Duncan didn't sleep with Kendall, I have to believe he didn't sleep with Jackie. I wouldn't put it past Jackie to try and get back at Veronica by trying to get him to sleep with her but we've seen no hint of that in the show. No do I see any hint that Duncan and Jackie knew each other over the summer. So, I'm not against the idea of her being the orgin but I just don't see anything to support it in the show. There might be more to her comment to her Dad but I'm not sure it relates to this storyline.
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Post by raenstorm on May 7, 2006 15:25:14 GMT -5
Yes, I'm posting again. What? Thanks Spring, I have so much Cliff love! I need to find an icon of him somewhere. Isn't it hilarious that we came to opposite conclusions after reading Rae's post? That's what makes this show in equal parts both fascinating and frustrating, I guess! The Jackie theory is interesting...are you suggesting that Jackie slept with Duncan? Why would that be easier to accept than if he slept with Kendall? No - I'm not really suggesting Jackie slept with Duncan. I mean - that seems so far out to me. Not impossible, but far out. It just seems . . . connected - as if Jackie is on the Chlamydia-transmission chain somewhere. I don't really have a theory on this, just this feeling that Jackie's statement is connected to Veronica's Chlamydia. I mean - why did Jackie say that out-of-the-blue statement to her dad? What was the purpose of that? In the same ep that we learn Veronica has an STD, we hear Jackie reassure her dad that she won't be careless about sex, because she "learned the hard way." What's up with that? It just bugs me, I say! It bugs me. It's funny what bugs some of us and what bugs others. I honestly didn't give much thought to Jackie's comment because I felt like it was a reference back to her mother and why she's even living with her Dad these days. Either that she learned by watching her mother flit from man to man or just because her mother got pregnant with her unexpectedly and she didn't fit into either of her mother or father's plans or because she got into some trouble from not being safe and that's why she was sent to Neptune. I didn't connect it to Veronica's STD directly. Which isn't to say it isn't, just that I'm failing to see the set up for that in our previous stories.
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Post by SpringSummers on May 7, 2006 15:27:20 GMT -5
I don't buy the "Aaron paid for a fake test" theory, basically for the reasons Rae lists. He found out about it somehow, and exploited it. As to how he found out - I can imagine a smart lawyer wanting to see Veronica's medical records to look for any support he could find (abortion, STD . . .) - and in a small town like that, finding a way of getting a peek at them. IF Kendall had Chlamydia and slept with Duncan, then that fits, as far as her passing that info on to Aaron, and Aaron asking his lawyer to check into whether or not Veronica had it. If he got someone (like someone who works in the doc's office, or someone who would be willing to break into the doc's office) to check Veronica's records, he would not only know for certain that she had it, but he would also know that she KNEW she had it. And he needs both pieces of info. I find it kind of hard - but not impossible - to believe Duncan slept with Kendall. I think Duncan is the daddy, because I just can't see a storyline that includes Duncan having run off with a baby that isn't his. I guess no one is going for my theory that Jackie is involved in the Chlamydia thing somehow. But I just can't figure out why, in the same ep we find out Veronica has Chlamydia, we hear Jackie react to her father, telling her to be cautious with Wallace, by saying that she "learned about the birds and the bees the hard way, remember?" It just bugs me. FOTADA! I love your Cliff quote in the sig line. I loved that scene. I don't necessarily doubt that Duncan is the daddy, I doubt that he was 100% certain of that fact. If he had any doubts, then it explains why he would not trust any kind of attempt to get custody. It would be interesting if Duncan had gotten tested for STD, found out he had Chlamydia and that's the reason he wasn't sure about being the father. Also, if Celeste and/or Jake knew about that, it'd give them a much better reason not to want to fight for custody of the child. That was always a sticking point for me because Celeste is very much about public appearance and I think she'd have a problem with being perceived as someone who didn't want her grandchild but if she even suspected it might not be hers, she'd use that to her full advantage. I'm with you here, except . . . I just can't see Duncan going so far as to kidnap the baby and take it raise, if he wasn't 100% convinced (rightly or wrongly) that it was his. I CAN see him feeling - very reasonably so, IMO - very unsure that a positive paternity test would automatically give him custody. I'm with you on this, too. Really for the same reason, in a different way. Duncan has his issues, and we're not meant to see him as Mr Perfect. BUT, I don't think transgressions like kidnapping a baby who isn't his, and betraying Veronica by sleeping with Kendall, are the type of thing that fits with the way Duncan's character is portrayed. With you all the way! It's icky no matter how you look at it. BUT - if Duncan didn't sleep with Kendall . . . and I just can't believe he did . . . then . . . it has to be Meg . . . I guess . . . Me too. I think there has to be more to Jackie's comment to her dad. But I agree with what you're saying here . . . I can't figure out how it connects either. On the other hand, it seems so connected. It's hard to believe the line is a throwaway, given that it's said in the same ep where we're all wondering "how the heck did Veronica get Chlamydia?" I don't know. And Meg - she herself seemed so sure the baby was Duncan's. The way she acted toward Veronica - how bitter and hurt she was . . . Basically, no matter where I turn, I don't like what I see, or I can't figure out what I see, when it comes to Veronica and her STD.
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Post by raenstorm on May 7, 2006 15:42:38 GMT -5
~~~ clipped for length ~~~ And Meg - she herself seemed so sure the baby was Duncan's. The way she acted toward Veronica - how bitter and hurt she was . . . Basically, no matter where I turn, I don't like what I see, or I can't figure out what I see, when it comes to Veronica and her STD. Ah, but see I don't see Meg's anger as certainity that the baby is Duncan's. For one thing, her anger seems to be more that she's having to deal with this situation while Veronica gets to be so happy and in love with Duncan. Since she would see Veronica as the reason Duncan broke up with her and the reason that she was either free to be raped or not free to ask for his help, it seems somewhat natural that her anger would be unfairly directed at Veronica for the fact that she's now stuck in this situation while Veronica gets to be happy go lucky with Duncan. It's an assumption that the anger was all because Duncan was the father and now dating someone else. Not an off the wall assumption, but an assumption just the same. The kind of assumption that this show counts on us to make until they've chosen to reveal all the facts. Here's, we're running into another rather large issue I have with the Meg pregnancy storyline that would be solved by there being some question about paternity. Why didn't Meg go to Duncan for help? Especially if she was afraid of what her parents were going to do to the child? I can see Meg being the type of person who doesn't want to force Duncan to be with her - but I can't see her as the type who would purposely exclude him from his child's life. That there's some other factors involved would go a long way to explain things.
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Post by SpringSummers on May 7, 2006 18:45:05 GMT -5
~~~ clipped for length ~~~ And Meg - she herself seemed so sure the baby was Duncan's. The way she acted toward Veronica - how bitter and hurt she was . . . Basically, no matter where I turn, I don't like what I see, or I can't figure out what I see, when it comes to Veronica and her STD. Ah, but see I don't see Meg's anger as certainity that the baby is Duncan's. For one thing, her anger seems to be more that she's having to deal with this situation while Veronica gets to be so happy and in love with Duncan. Since she would see Veronica as the reason Duncan broke up with her and the reason that she was either free to be raped or not free to ask for his help, it seems somewhat natural that her anger would be unfairly directed at Veronica for the fact that she's now stuck in this situation while Veronica gets to be happy go lucky with Duncan. It's an assumption that the anger was all because Duncan was the father and now dating someone else. Not an off the wall assumption, but an assumption just the same. The kind of assumption that this show counts on us to make until they've chosen to reveal all the facts. Here's, we're running into another rather large issue I have with the Meg pregnancy storyline that would be solved by there being some question about paternity. Why didn't Meg go to Duncan for help? Especially if she was afraid of what her parents were going to do to the child? I can see Meg being the type of person who doesn't want to force Duncan to be with her - but I can't see her as the type who would purposely exclude him from his child's life. That there's some other factors involved would go a long way to explain things. Well . . . interesting theories, all . . . can't wait to find out what the chlamydia is all about. AND FOTADA!! I offer you some Cliffy icons:
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Post by Michelle on May 7, 2006 19:43:42 GMT -5
Ah, but see I don't see Meg's anger as certainity that the baby is Duncan's. For one thing, her anger seems to be more that she's having to deal with this situation while Veronica gets to be so happy and in love with Duncan. Since she would see Veronica as the reason Duncan broke up with her and the reason that she was either free to be raped or not free to ask for his help, it seems somewhat natural that her anger would be unfairly directed at Veronica for the fact that she's now stuck in this situation while Veronica gets to be happy go lucky with Duncan. It's an assumption that the anger was all because Duncan was the father and now dating someone else. Not an off the wall assumption, but an assumption just the same. The kind of assumption that this show counts on us to make until they've chosen to reveal all the facts. Here's, we're running into another rather large issue I have with the Meg pregnancy storyline that would be solved by there being some question about paternity. Why didn't Meg go to Duncan for help? Especially if she was afraid of what her parents were going to do to the child? I can see Meg being the type of person who doesn't want to force Duncan to be with her - but I can't see her as the type who would purposely exclude him from his child's life. That there's some other factors involved would go a long way to explain things. Well . . . interesting theories, all . . . can't wait to find out what the chlamydia is all about. AND FOTADA!! I offer you some Cliffy icons: SPRING!! You are rockin' like Dokken!
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