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Post by Lolatoobusy on Oct 31, 2006 17:39:30 GMT -5
The twop recap sez that in addition to being a line from Apocalypse Now, the title is a lyric from a Clash song. Does anyone have any further explanation or comment on this? I suck at popular music. Just whizzing by - trying to make my old punk memory bank squeeze out some info . . . Um . . . from the Sandinista album, I think? And the song was generally about globalization/world superpowers, I think? I remember a line something like: "Africa choking on Coca-Cola". Um. Not remembering enough. You could probably google the full lyrics. If I have time later, I'll try to find and post them later.
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Post by SpringSummers on Nov 1, 2006 10:02:42 GMT -5
Hi Spring. Very nice analysis - as always. I wonder - do you feel frustrated when there aren't a lot of deep mystery layers to delve through? Because as you said - there sure wasn't much to do with the mystery. We are consistently seeing noir lite. No, I don't really feel frustrated about it. I am more into the characterizations than the mysteries, really. I think as long as there is this insecurity about how many eps will air, etc., things are going to stay sort of "noir-lite." Here's hoping they make it past the uncertainity and get renewed for the full season. I think the reason Logan was willing to "accept Dick back" as a friend, even though Dick at first was so nasty to him, and the reason Dick turned to him, is just what you are saying - in many ways they are in the same boat, and despite Dick's bravado, he knows it. I can't imagine a Dick/Veronica romance - yikes, indeed! I think their basic dislike for each other is very real, and not masking any underlying desire, ala Logan/Veronica. Thanks for the feedback!
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Post by Lola m on Nov 4, 2006 13:48:56 GMT -5
Finally managing to scrape together some time to comment on your review, Spring! (I really wish life would get a bit less hectic for me. Did I read a post from you saying the job thing is probably supposedly settled, but that you are still keeping some feelers out there, "just in case"? I'll keep you on my "good thoughts" list. ) Anyhoo! I think what I liked best was the way you contrasted the themes of betrayal and worry against the title. We aren't trapped - we have choices and options. Your examples of siblings were wonderful. I hadn't really thought how often they were introducing sibling-like relationships - yet this is a perfect metaphor for the college/young adult time of life. Finding family in friends. Add to this all the spouse-like relationships and we again see the kind of family you add to your life as you become an adult. Family through meeting people. I think I'm seeing this as a strong theme for this season. But I loved how you turn from these dark aspects of relationships - the power to hurt - to show the advantages as well. And **nods** Just like Veronica's speech about blaming the frat guys if they really aren't responsible. Do we want to get them or do we want the truth? Veronica will always be the one who wants to find the truth and I admire that. It won't always make friends for her, but it needs to be done.
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Post by SpringSummers on Nov 5, 2006 7:19:08 GMT -5
Finally managing to scrape together some time to comment on your review, Spring! (I really wish life would get a bit less hectic for me. Did I read a post from you saying the job thing is probably supposedly settled, but that you are still keeping some feelers out there, "just in case"? I'll keep you on my "good thoughts" list. ) Anyhoo! I think what I liked best was the way you contrasted the themes of betrayal and worry against the title. We aren't trapped - we have choices and options. Yes, I thought the title fit both the "getting to know you" theme(if Logan had only know Charlie didn't surf), and the related "you aren't a slave to your genes or your history/environment" theme (look - Charlie is Logan's brother, and he lives near the ocean, but Charlie don't surf). Agree. I still cling to my Season 1 theory that Weevil & Lilly are half-siblings, and were never lovers. Yes - the clerk at the store makes that little speech about "one less illegitimate bastard in the world" or some such thing, and though that's an unfair/artifical type of characterization for people, the thought does fits with the theme of "getting to know you/your surroundings." If you don't make decisions based on legitimate perceptions, if you don't take the time to get to know the truth (about another person or a circumstance) your decisions will be "bastards," so to speak (not legit). Thanks for the feedback, Lola! I know you are a busy lady so it is doubly appreciated.
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Post by Michelle on Nov 6, 2006 12:59:04 GMT -5
Finished my review, and now I feel like I have "permission" to read yours, Spring. As usual, you hit it out of the ballpark! Identity, yes! What I like is that the show continually asks the questions about identity and its relation to how much money you have, or who your friends are, whether you’re related to a murderer… I did not catch the sibling betrayal theme. Cool observation! It’s funny to me that Veronica was called “sister” for the last few episodes, because I don’t think of her as a joiner in any way, shape or form. Even when she does belong to a “family,” like the FBLA, she always thinks independently and stands apart from others. So true!! And once again, it touches on discovering identities, but this time it’s directed outward, instead of inward. I completely agree with this. I hope we get to see more of Logan’s brother in some upcoming episodes. He can help Logan find the Charlie within. Let's keep our fingers crossed that the show gets a full season.
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Post by SpringSummers on Nov 6, 2006 14:09:54 GMT -5
Finished my review, and now I feel like I have "permission" to read yours, Spring. As usual, you hit it out of the ballpark! Identity, yes! What I like is that the show continually asks the questions about identity and its relation to how much money you have, or who your friends are, whether you’re related to a murderer… I did not catch the sibling betrayal theme. Cool observation! It’s funny to me that Veronica was called “sister” for the last few episodes, because I don’t think of her as a joiner in any way, shape or form. Even when she does belong to a “family,” like the FBLA, she always thinks independently and stands apart from others. So true!! And once again, it touches on discovering identities, but this time it’s directed outward, instead of inward. I completely agree with this. I hope we get to see more of Logan’s brother in some upcoming episodes. He can help Logan find the Charlie within. Let's keep our fingers crossed that the show gets a full season. Thanks for the great feedback, Fotada. Will get to posting your review as soon as I can. I didn't see it until after midnight last night, and just couldn't keep my eyes open any longer. Unfortunately, I cannot do it from work.
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