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Post by Matthew on Mar 25, 2007 23:09:29 GMT -5
I have one? So, now that the Cylons and humans are obviously going to have to co-habit Earth or destroy each other, do you think they've learned enough from the New Caprica disaster to make a go of it? Bluntly? No. Destruction is all that's in store, save for a few side-switchers who vote with their hearts, like Athena. POSSIBLY some assimilation, as the humaniforms CAN interbreed with the regular humans, but one side or the other is gonna be on top. And I wonder when it is, here on Terra. Far enough in the future that "All Along the Watchtower" is a thousands of years-old folk ballad that survived? Or are we going (as I kind have been all along, as it's so close to U.S. aircraft carrier stuff) with Asimov's "we present this story to you in symbols you are familliar with, to avoid distracting too much from the story we are telling"? ETA: "Bluntly? No." in disagreement about the "can't we all just get along" bit, not about whether or not you have a brain, as you most assuredly do, woman.
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Post by Matthew on Mar 25, 2007 23:35:59 GMT -5
And Lee's rantliloqouy is even stronger the second time through. WOW.
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Post by Pixi on Mar 26, 2007 7:16:45 GMT -5
So now we've got four people who can hear the music, and Kara still unaccounted for. Which, obviously, makes five if you count her. And yet it almost seems too easy, doesn't it? Hmm... Just cruising in here but and maybe this is just me but I was expecting - I don't know - something bigger. More something? And I'm not quite sure how Tigh can be a Cylon but still. I've read spec elsewhere that these are "different" Cylons? Still loved the meeting. So when the chief was with Boomer - it was just two Cylons mating? So all that angst . . . . And does that mean that the Chief's kid is another miracle baby like Hera?
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Post by Pixi on Mar 26, 2007 7:19:18 GMT -5
not only that , but I think the Admirals vote is the deciding vote that sets him free I'm with you, in that I agree that Adama votes to acquit. Don't know if there will be two votes for acquittal, though. After that speech, Adama had to vote to acquit or he would be entering into an area where I would seriously question why he is leading. He should have disqualified himself from the panel in the first place but bottom line, the prosecutor didn't prove their case. And Felix is a lying liar who lies. Interesting. Walking on the dark side big time. I'm glad he ended up NOT being a Cylon because that would have been too easy.
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Post by Pixi on Mar 26, 2007 7:22:06 GMT -5
What? We have to wait almost a FRAKKIN' YEAR before it comes back?! I HATE THIS SHOW!!!!!!! The Kara comback was pretty much quessed and speced everywhere so that didn't surprise me. The 2008 though? Why?
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Post by Sara on Mar 26, 2007 8:34:43 GMT -5
So now we've got four people who can hear the music, and Kara still unaccounted for. Which, obviously, makes five if you count her. And yet it almost seems too easy, doesn't it? Hmm... I think number 5 is still up for grabs. Yup, I'd have to agree—we still don't know with any certainty who the fifth Cylon was. Unless... Kara said she'd been to Earth and could show the fleet the way, right? What if that's because Earth is where Kara woke up in a new Cylon body? Of course, if Earth is where Kara just came from it implies it'll only take a few weeks for the fleet to reach Earth... Which in and of itself might make for some interesting drama, I suppose... Eh, I really shouldn't be trying to think this early in the morning anyway.
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Post by Sara on Mar 26, 2007 8:36:57 GMT -5
So now we've got four people who can hear the music, and Kara still unaccounted for. Which, obviously, makes five if you count her. And yet it almost seems too easy, doesn't it? Hmm... Just cruising in here but and maybe this is just me but I was expecting - I don't know - something bigger. More something? And I'm not quite sure how Tigh can be a Cylon but still. I've read spec elsewhere that these are "different" Cylons? Still loved the meeting. So when the chief was with Boomer - it was just two Cylons mating? So all that angst . . . . And does that mean that the Chief's kid is another miracle baby like Hera?Ooooh, excellent point.
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Post by Sue on Mar 26, 2007 8:45:24 GMT -5
I am worried all those that hear the music are cylons. I hope not but I am worried You were right to be worried. Interesting how Tigh was the one who took the lead in saying that it didn't matter. Of course, he'd go completely bonkers if he really stopped to think about it, so denial is the best course of action for him. [Grumble, grumble. Sometimes I forget I'm on "preview" and try to make a change and hit backspace and it trashes my whole, long fascinating post. grumble, grumble.] [Also, disclaimer---I watch unregularly.] So they are exploring a number of interesting concepts here: --Nature vs nurture of course, but I think it's deeper than that. --Free-will and self determination. (Go Tigh, whom I've never been fond of until now.) --Are the Cylons really planting "sleeper agents" who they hope will be traitors to the humans or are they actually conduction complex sociology experiments proving that if the pre-conception toward "racial bias" is removed (you don't know they are Cylons) everybody could get along and live together? Smaller thoughts: Wondering if all the newly revealed Cylons will continue to be "loyal" to the humans. All 3 men maybe, but I don't trust that woman. So we have another hybrid baby? Are we still supposed to wonder if either Roslyn or Starbuck might be the 5th Cylon. [Really, folks, do you all think the writers have even decided who it is yet? ] Sigh. The original post was much more thoughtful.
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Post by Sara on Mar 26, 2007 8:52:03 GMT -5
What? We have to wait almost a FRAKKIN' YEAR before it comes back?! I HATE THIS SHOW!!!!!!! According to Ron Moore, we'll be getting a little something to tide us over by the end of this year: We won't be seeing Season 4 until January 2008, but I understand there's going to be some kind of miniseries or movie coming before then?
There is something that they're calling "extra episodes" or "extended episodes" -- they keep shifting the nomenclature. Essentially, we are shooting two hours of "Galactica" that will be broadcast on SciFi Channel sometime in the fall. Let's say they broadcast it on a Friday; then, on the following Monday, it will be available on DVD.
That story will not pick up our cliffhanger at the end of Season 3. That didn't seem right. The story will be set on the Battleship Pegasus and will take place in the past, relative to where we are in Season 3. But the events set up in that story will then pay off in Season 4.
What was the reasoning behind doing that?
They came to us. It gives Home Video something to sell in the stores. Since we won't be back until January, which is a long time to be off the air, it gives the fans something to see and keeps the show alive. So it serves multiple masters. There was no way we could pick up the cliffhanger in that format, and then ask people to wait to really start the season later. One of the story lines everyone had really liked was the Pegasus story and the character of Admiral Cain, so we decided to go with that.
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Post by Sara on Mar 26, 2007 9:14:38 GMT -5
Dude. Why on God's green earth would it come out in the UK first? It's an American show. Isn't it Canadian? It's filmed in Canada, absolutely. But then, so was The X-Files, and I think most of us consider that show American. Regardless, it's produced for and aired by an American broadcast company. So there's no way it's going to air in Britain first.
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Post by Karen on Mar 26, 2007 10:43:28 GMT -5
I have one? So, now that the Cylons and humans are obviously going to have to co-habit Earth or destroy each other, do you think they've learned enough from the New Caprica disaster to make a go of it? Bluntly? No. Destruction is all that's in store, save for a few side-switchers who vote with their hearts, like Athena. POSSIBLY some assimilation, as the humaniforms CAN interbreed with the regular humans, but one side or the other is gonna be on top. And I wonder when it is, here on Terra. Far enough in the future that "All Along the Watchtower" is a thousands of years-old folk ballad that survived? Or are we going (as I kind have been all along, as it's so close to U.S. aircraft carrier stuff) with Asimov's "we present this story to you in symbols you are familliar with, to avoid distracting too much from the story we are telling"? ETA: "Bluntly? No." in disagreement about the "can't we all just get along" bit, not about whether or not you have a brain, as you most assuredly do, woman. Hee! Thanks. I was thinking about the timeline, too. Say they land on earth prehistoric, how far in the past will that be? Pre-bibilical? Or further back than that? Then I got to thinking how if Tyrol is confirmed as a Cylon - then that means his son - Nicky - is a hybrid, like Hera. Of course, my brain went to the Adam (Nicky) and Eve (Hera) place, and then exploded. Interesting, tho - Adama/Adam. Can't see how that all figures in - unless Nicky ends up being raised by the Adama family. (And there is a hint that he might be raised by another - Callie mentioned her fear of that happening.) Ok - enough weirdness. I better go get some coffee.
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Post by Karen on Mar 26, 2007 11:04:09 GMT -5
So now we've got four people who can hear the music, and Kara still unaccounted for. Which, obviously, makes five if you count her. And yet it almost seems too easy, doesn't it? Hmm... Just cruising in here but and maybe this is just me but I was expecting - I don't know - something bigger. More something? And I'm not quite sure how Tigh can be a Cylon but still. I've read spec elsewhere that these are "different" Cylons?Still loved the meeting. So when the chief was with Boomer - it was just two Cylons mating? So all that angst . . . . And does that mean that the Chief's kid is another miracle baby like Hera? "Different Cylons" - is a possibility, especially after the comment from the Lucy Lawless Cylon - that they don't talk about them. Loved the meeting, too! "You've got to be kidding me." LOL! Tigh cracks me up. I also loved how he showed his loyalty to Adama - but we do know that he can be a loose cannon, and I'd be a bit afraid of what he might be capable of.
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Post by Karen on Mar 26, 2007 11:06:17 GMT -5
I'm with you, in that I agree that Adama votes to acquit. Don't know if there will be two votes for acquittal, though. After that speech, Adama had to vote to acquit or he would be entering into an area where I would seriously question why he is leading. He should have disqualified himself from the panel in the first place but bottom line, the prosecutor didn't prove their case. And Felix is a lying liar who lies. Interesting. Walking on the dark side big time. I'm glad he ended up NOT being a Cylon because that would have been too easy. He's a bit too much like Baltar. There's a love/hate thing going between them. I'm interested in seeing where they take that relationship.
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Post by Karen on Mar 26, 2007 11:12:09 GMT -5
You were right to be worried. Interesting how Tigh was the one who took the lead in saying that it didn't matter. Of course, he'd go completely bonkers if he really stopped to think about it, so denial is the best course of action for him. [Grumble, grumble. Sometimes I forget I'm on "preview" and try to make a change and hit backspace and it trashes my whole, long fascinating post. grumble, grumble.] [Also, disclaimer---I watch unregularly.] So they are exploring a number of interesting concepts here: --Nature vs nurture of course, but I think it's deeper than that. --Free-will and self determination. (Go Tigh, whom I've never been fond of until now.) --Are the Cylons really planting "sleeper agents" who they hope will be traitors to the humans or are they actually conduction complex sociology experiments proving that if the pre-conception toward "racial bias" is removed (you don't know they are Cylons) everybody could get along and live together? Smaller thoughts: Wondering if all the newly revealed Cylons will continue to be "loyal" to the humans. All 3 men maybe, but I don't trust that woman. So we have another hybrid baby? Are we still supposed to wonder if either Roslyn or Starbuck might be the 5th Cylon. [Really, folks, do you all think the writers have even decided who it is yet? ] Sigh. The original post was much more thoughtful. Good thoughts, Sue. So, you don't trust the woman, huh? Is it the hair? Roslin did burn her in the last episode. I think that depending on what's going on at the moment, that these 4 can go either way, although I'd put most of my money on Tyrol doing the right thing most of the time, because he's a 'good' man/potential Cylon. Sam, too. We don't know all that much about Roslin's aid. Heck, I'm not even sure of her name. Tory? Really, there isn't all that much difference between either breed as far as their capability for doing evil and for doing good, depending on the circumstances.
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Post by Karen on Mar 26, 2007 11:14:38 GMT -5
What? We have to wait almost a FRAKKIN' YEAR before it comes back?! I HATE THIS SHOW!!!!!!! According to Ron Moore, we'll be getting a little something to tide us over by the end of this year: We won't be seeing Season 4 until January 2008, but I understand there's going to be some kind of miniseries or movie coming before then?
There is something that they're calling "extra episodes" or "extended episodes" -- they keep shifting the nomenclature. Essentially, we are shooting two hours of "Galactica" that will be broadcast on SciFi Channel sometime in the fall. Let's say they broadcast it on a Friday; then, on the following Monday, it will be available on DVD.
That story will not pick up our cliffhanger at the end of Season 3. That didn't seem right. The story will be set on the Battleship Pegasus and will take place in the past, relative to where we are in Season 3. But the events set up in that story will then pay off in Season 4.
What was the reasoning behind doing that?
They came to us. It gives Home Video something to sell in the stores. Since we won't be back until January, which is a long time to be off the air, it gives the fans something to see and keeps the show alive. So it serves multiple masters. There was no way we could pick up the cliffhanger in that format, and then ask people to wait to really start the season later. One of the story lines everyone had really liked was the Pegasus story and the character of Admiral Cain, so we decided to go with that. Yay! That helps a little bit. I was hoping the parallel story would've taken place at the same time as the New Caprica storyline, so that we could see the Lee/Dee romance and how he put on weight, but maybe we don't really want to see that.
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